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Poipole is not currently banned in LC BH. Same for Drifloon in LC AAA. If you think they should be banned, you can make that argument. But I personally felt that their innate traits weren't overwhelming enough to be included in the initial banlists. The rest of it I applied where I'd missed it though, let me know if I'm still missing anything.Aggronite Snorlax doesn't seem to be really good, Normal/Steel isn't a good defensive typing, and Egg Bomb as your main attacking move is also bad, considering its 75% acc and there are better Normal type moves such as Return. There are better defensive Normal-Type like Sablenite Blissey. Though the rest of the team is fine, you just need to change Snorlax, thats all. (I don't know if Sablenite Curselax is still mediocre)
Now for BH LC
Both Murkrow and Misdreavus are still on the banlist. Please update it and also, include Poipole as well due to having an evolution (Naganadel) and being obtainable to this format similar to Type:Null. And oh, now that Illusion is banned in BH, we should ban this as well here. Now for this set
Murkrow @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 5
EVs: 196 HP / 236 Atk / 180 Def / 236 SpA / 180 SpD / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Knock Off
- Spore
- Dragon Ascent
- Close Combat / King's Shield / U-turn
This set can be annoying to deal with. Murkrow abuses the best move in Little Cup, Knock Off. It lets it removed important item such as Eviolite and Safety Goggles. Knock Off is actually more high rewarding here than in regular BH, because most pokemon are reliant on item to perform effectively. It also deals a good damage coming from its good Attack Stat and STAB. Now Spore is an annoying move and puts its opponent to sleep, and in conjunction with Knock Off, it can be hard to switch into. Dragon Ascent is your other STAB and hits Grass-Types that are immune to Spore hard. Dark / Flying is a great offensive combination, being both resisted by only Pawniard. which can be quite easily dealt with a Fighting move like Close Combat. King's Shield helps you scout Fake Out users. Other protection move can be used to protect itself from status as well. U-turn lets you preserved momentum. Mold Breaker is preferred due to being able to removed items from Sticky Hold users and able to Spore on Magic Bounce user. Murkrow can be able to do this thanks to its blazing speed, reaching the 2nd fastest unboosted speed tier and only outsped by Diglett, Elekid , Voltorb and Yanma. Though this set won't work on tour as long as Sleep Clause is still active.
Oh, by the way. I noticed that the LC AAA doesn't have Drifloon listed. Please include this as well
Onto other things...
-There is an OM Mashup Discord hosted by Ransei! Invite is here.
-The discussion on Necrozma-Dusk-Mane in AAA Ubers has so far failed to reach a consensus of any sort. Please continue to discuss whether it's banworthy or not :) Things to keep in mind while discussing are the difficulty of walling it with Steelworker, it's ability to be Ultra Necrozma,
-MnM LC is now possible thanks to a change in the regular Mix and Mega rules that allows NFEs to mega evolve! (I'm using NFE to refer to any Pokemon that can still evolve here, not just stuff marked NFE on Showdown). I will be discussing the addition of this metagame to this thread with The Immortal when I get the opportunity. This rule change of course also applies to other Mix and Mega Mashups.
-Illusion has been banned from Balanced Hackmons by suspect, and as such is banned from Mashups that use the BH banlist as a base. This does NOT include Pure Hackmons, as while it is similar in concept to BH, PH does not use any banlist. I would like some discussion on this point: is Illusion broken in BH Doubles? Note that I'm not asking for discussion of the recent BH suspect, and I don't care if you approve of the result. I'm interested in how the Doubles metagame compares to the Singles.
For now it's going on the banlist by default though.
I think that's all for now. Let me know if there's anything I missed / messed up on!