Panic actually tried to pocket me lol
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NOC Fire and Ice (9-2-2 Multiball) [won by town]
- Thread starter HeaLnDeaL
- Start date
that night was stupid
Btw when skook actually finishes posting his fire analysis, pls ping me and give a tl;dr
Six goddamn pages, this might have to take multiple posts. I'll skip anything related solely to heury, OM, or is NGR. Let's go
This post is kinda weird, though Waterlily had absolutely none of it, so I think it looks good for them. After that more banter about Waterlily
Both voted for him. Still in RVS, so not much can be said about these votes.
Setting up Dusk as a target. I believe he ended up on Dusk at the end of the day too.
Pretty flaky on Dusk at this point, though that might be because he's hesitant to push Dusk when he's around.
Mentions several people without making judgements on them. Amy and Texas might need further investigation. Afterwards, keeps pestering me
Wow, he actually did the GTH. Awesome. Now the question is, does he put his partner as town or scum? Two of his GTH scum have already flipped. I think it's a good look for shubaka and Ampharos. Of note is that all his GTH scum were incredibly inactive at that point, anyone inactive who wasn't GTH scum is worth looking over.
Kind of shading Texas...
But doesn't really follow through with it. I can see Texas being his partner.
For some reason, won't shut up about Lily. Interestingly, he associates himself a bit much with Lily. I still think Lily looks good.
To Caffeine, about heury. Following a nonpartner for an easy target, or collaborating with a teammate? I lean toward the former, but I'll need to see more interactions.
Then saying hi to Ampharos, talking about heury, CK9, etc.
More Texas defense. But it still feels kind of flaky.
Defending Caffeine (at least in relation to heury) but, like with Texas, this read is flaky. The similarities between his treatment of Caffeine and Texas might indicate that they are not paired, but we'll have to do more digging
Oh, and he was pestering shubaka during this time as well.
First time he mentions Fenrir (besides GTH) and it's to ask why he is (third) in someone's (U-Turn Out) lynch list. Not the best look for Fenrir.
Now he begins talking about font nonsense, and that's about half his posts. I'll go over the other half in the next post.
This post is kinda weird, though Waterlily had absolutely none of it, so I think it looks good for them. After that more banter about Waterlily
Both voted for him. Still in RVS, so not much can be said about these votes.
Setting up Dusk as a target. I believe he ended up on Dusk at the end of the day too.
Pretty flaky on Dusk at this point, though that might be because he's hesitant to push Dusk when he's around.
Mentions several people without making judgements on them. Amy and Texas might need further investigation. Afterwards, keeps pestering me
Wow, he actually did the GTH. Awesome. Now the question is, does he put his partner as town or scum? Two of his GTH scum have already flipped. I think it's a good look for shubaka and Ampharos. Of note is that all his GTH scum were incredibly inactive at that point, anyone inactive who wasn't GTH scum is worth looking over.
Kind of shading Texas...
But doesn't really follow through with it. I can see Texas being his partner.
For some reason, won't shut up about Lily. Interestingly, he associates himself a bit much with Lily. I still think Lily looks good.
To Caffeine, about heury. Following a nonpartner for an easy target, or collaborating with a teammate? I lean toward the former, but I'll need to see more interactions.
Then saying hi to Ampharos, talking about heury, CK9, etc.
More Texas defense. But it still feels kind of flaky.
Defending Caffeine (at least in relation to heury) but, like with Texas, this read is flaky. The similarities between his treatment of Caffeine and Texas might indicate that they are not paired, but we'll have to do more digging
Oh, and he was pestering shubaka during this time as well.
First time he mentions Fenrir (besides GTH) and it's to ask why he is (third) in someone's (U-Turn Out) lynch list. Not the best look for Fenrir.
Now he begins talking about font nonsense, and that's about half his posts. I'll go over the other half in the next post.
Vote: Fenrir Aesir
I'm just gonna leave this here since it's probably the best thing I have given that heury flipped town.
I'm just gonna leave this here since it's probably the best thing I have given that heury flipped town.
Mafia obviously looked up to my list and killed who is objectively seen as town xD Well done
Fire killing OM is very interesting seeing Panic's reads tbh
I get that this is multiball but as scum I wouldn't wanna kill the person who looked scummy
It kinda makes me think that somebody who read OM as town is probably the other fire but this is a somewhat dangerous line of thinking and my brain is too tired to figure things out
It kinda makes me think that somebody who read OM as town is probably the other fire but this is a somewhat dangerous line of thinking and my brain is too tired to figure things out
Idt scum would want to kill other scum this early into the game.
I also believe they were their top town reads and probably ones with most accurate reads about other team xP
Both were voting Dusk :thinking:
s/o to sultan of skook for stepping up the game on D2, holy shit that's a bunch of content in (3?) hours after flips, but you're not getting the title of most active player from me >:(
PS flipping scum after being aggravating D1 makes sense, I don't think there was a single substantive thing that he said, and any attack on his demeanor was met with reference to a questionable past.
OM flipping scum makes me sad because i like playing mafia with him, but i guess it's for the best
heury flipping town makes sense because LITERALLY WHAT DID HE DO THAT WAS SCUMMY?? y'all kept on pushing that heury is usually more active, or does this that and the other as town, w/e. let me iso like, four people and then i'll be back
PS flipping scum after being aggravating D1 makes sense, I don't think there was a single substantive thing that he said, and any attack on his demeanor was met with reference to a questionable past.
OM flipping scum makes me sad because i like playing mafia with him, but i guess it's for the best
heury flipping town makes sense because LITERALLY WHAT DID HE DO THAT WAS SCUMMY?? y'all kept on pushing that heury is usually more active, or does this that and the other as town, w/e. let me iso like, four people and then i'll be back
We should have listened to heury at this point tbh, Panic had a lot of posts about thinking ice as SK
are you still set on this after three flips?
More heury pushing and more NGR nonsense. Then we arrive at this:
Is shading Thunder in a way that makes them look non-aligned. I'll see where he goes with this
More shading Thunder with backup from shubaka. Also, uh thanks I guess.
And then more heury nonsense, and then talking about players who aren't even in the game (why did I not catch this D1)
Now switching to Thunder. It seems like Panic thought this could be a viable wagon. Thus, it is likely that Thunder is not Fire.
More tunneling of Thunder, and thus I think that Thunder is the safest not fire.
Pestering Caff a lot in thread. It's possible they're partners but looking increasingly unlikely, as all this interaction would be a bit much
Complaining about the doc, bantering with OM...
This post about Texas is very CWAC. I can easily see it coming from a partner
Changed his vote when prodded by Texas. Notably, U-Turn didn't have any votes at this time, while Dusk, shubaka, and Caffeine (and heury) all did
Shading Dusk, foreshadowing EoD
Pursuing Dusk rather aggressively. Dusk looks about as good as Thunder here
Again? Though the constant prodding of Texas might make me think they're not partners... hmm...
Still won't drop Thunder as a talking point
Here it is.
Quite a list of players you have there. Most of the people on the list are either flipped or I have a strong belief that they aren't fire - Ampharos is the odd name out here.
More prodding Caffeine and defending Fenrir - not a good look for the latter.
Alright, I'm through with it. I'll go over everyone once again, but there probably will be less suspects. And given that we have more interactions with fire, as well as the fact that the users that look the worst are also candidates to be the ice mafioso, it may be wise to search for the fire guy first.
Is shading Thunder in a way that makes them look non-aligned. I'll see where he goes with this
More shading Thunder with backup from shubaka. Also, uh thanks I guess.
And then more heury nonsense, and then talking about players who aren't even in the game (why did I not catch this D1)
Now switching to Thunder. It seems like Panic thought this could be a viable wagon. Thus, it is likely that Thunder is not Fire.
More tunneling of Thunder, and thus I think that Thunder is the safest not fire.
Pestering Caff a lot in thread. It's possible they're partners but looking increasingly unlikely, as all this interaction would be a bit much
Complaining about the doc, bantering with OM...
This post about Texas is very CWAC. I can easily see it coming from a partner
Changed his vote when prodded by Texas. Notably, U-Turn didn't have any votes at this time, while Dusk, shubaka, and Caffeine (and heury) all did
Shading Dusk, foreshadowing EoD
Pursuing Dusk rather aggressively. Dusk looks about as good as Thunder here
Again? Though the constant prodding of Texas might make me think they're not partners... hmm...
Still won't drop Thunder as a talking point
Here it is.
Quite a list of players you have there. Most of the people on the list are either flipped or I have a strong belief that they aren't fire - Ampharos is the odd name out here.
More prodding Caffeine and defending Fenrir - not a good look for the latter.
Alright, I'm through with it. I'll go over everyone once again, but there probably will be less suspects. And given that we have more interactions with fire, as well as the fact that the users that look the worst are also candidates to be the ice mafioso, it may be wise to search for the fire guy first.
boy idk, what do you think?
Don't think you try to break down your partner's push on your first couple of posts without communicating intention to do so in scum chat (which isn't available) but hey I'm biased because I know my alignment.
GTH two scum are in fenrir/cb/waterlily I'll read D1 later
gonna take the lazy out and respond to PS's posts by way of Sultan's iso and wallposts of them:
changing votes at a single prod from Texas makes me think of mafia interaction: they don't have day talk, so the only way for Texas to tell his partner to change wagons (for some reason or another) would be to tell PS in a group of people.
changing votes at a single prod from Texas makes me think of mafia interaction: they don't have day talk, so the only way for Texas to tell his partner to change wagons (for some reason or another) would be to tell PS in a group of people.
I don't think 2 scum would vote together on town!dusk then kill one of the other voters so I think it kinda clears fenrir to me. But what it tells about Dusk is another story I think.
idk if we've established on this forum that i'm bad at reading between the lines, so would you please answer the question
Vote: Shubaka17
no.
no.
i forget who it was that despised twinmasters, but i remember that twin almost always had some sort of scum read on him in one way or another. so for PS to point out similarities between Texas and Twin is to point out texas acting scummy (i know that's some gymnastics, just, okay?)
vote texas
wait shit idt you quite fit the profile I'm after
Vote Fenrir Aesir
Vote Fenrir Aesir
this post just got a like from Waterlily, in case y'all aren't watching the likes on posts and whatnot
i think this is one of the first times i haven't been profiled by a narc lmao
I'll go over everyone in the same order because why not.
Here is a post that is a very good look for Lily and the reason why I don't think they are fire. This was their response to Panic saying they can easily read them, which if Panic was their partner, would be something that Lily would want us to believe. However, Lily just calls crap on it.
Kinda would be weird to mention your partner as the only town read
Again, very high for a scumpartner, and there was some progression at least.
Conclusion: Based on both analyses, as well as the fact that they were on the same wagon as both scum, I feel fairly confident in calling Waterlily a civillian.
Here is a post that is a very good look for Lily and the reason why I don't think they are fire. This was their response to Panic saying they can easily read them, which if Panic was their partner, would be something that Lily would want us to believe. However, Lily just calls crap on it.
Kinda would be weird to mention your partner as the only town read
Again, very high for a scumpartner, and there was some progression at least.
Conclusion: Based on both analyses, as well as the fact that they were on the same wagon as both scum, I feel fairly confident in calling Waterlily a civillian.