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Pokémon Movepool Oddities & Explanations
- Thread starter Kurona
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That's the connection. I know there's always some dissonance with localization and all that (JP name is Meditation), but think about it.
To reach that level of focus, you need to empty your mind and concentrate. It's not quite meditating, but it's pretty close.
Someone else had somewhat of an explanation for that earlier in the thread that I liked.
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I mean they got Mystical Fire recently so there's that
(Almost got Shedinja'd by Kurona, but I feel I have some additional things to add)
They're really not that type of dragon. If I were to put them under an "element" I'd more classify the Eon Duo as air and water dragons, they're design aesthetic is very aerodynamic due to being based in a jet. They're also more "spiritual" based, based on deity-level beings "aeons" which sort of have a Yin-Yang dichotomy. Thus they don't learn Flamethrower of Fire Blast but now are able to get Mystical Fire.
Well, it was either that, or Psychic/Flying again and no one wanted another Psychic Legendary back then.
As admittedly from GF (case in point: Lugia), lot of the old legendaryes got the Dragon or Psychic (or both) types purely because they were perceived as the "strongest" types.
Back in Gen VII when they did all of those legendary events, they made short videos on each of the focused Legendaries. Apparently they had three types in mind for Lugia(Water, Psychic, and Flying), and they decided to forgo water so that way it didn't have a type advantage over Ho-oh.
While this wasn't mentioned in the video, Lugia was created by the anime team specifically for the second movie, and had no types in mind for it, and weren't even expecting it to be made "official" via being put in the games. That's why in the Spaceworld '97 demo, Lugia doesn't exist and Ho-oh is the mascot of both versions.
There's a part of me that really wants greater separation between the anime and games, at least as long as the anime continues to not show why I like the games. But then, I am the guy who's proud of never using Ash-Greninja.
Funny thing, Ash-Greninja was made specifically for the anime like Lugia, but unlike Lugia, who was designed by the anime team themselves, they instead went to Game Freak as asked them to design a super form to give Ash's Greninja for them.
Anyways, to get on-topic, one of the more baffling things that have been done in terms of event moves is making Eruption Heatran locked into a Quiet Nature. I mean, Gen IV also had the crown beast events with locked natures, but at least with those ones you can see why they got those natures(For Raikou and Suicune they didn't want to lower either attack stat because the event moves included both physical and special ones, and they didn't want to compromise the bulk of the latter, while Entei got Adamant because its moves were all Physical), can't really say the same for the Pokemon given a move that deals less damage if it gets hit first. At least Mints can fix that now, not that Eruption Heatran will take the meta by storm with that base speed, but it is an improvement at least.
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It was actually a big deal in VGC 2012 and 2013 since Heatran was an Eruption abuser under Trick Room. It’s dominance alongside Sucker Punch Hitmontop was the reason the pentagon rule was established.
Legit question: Is this why Heatran doesnt get eruption outside of that event...?
That's a bit weird because in the 97 beta, Ho-oh is pure Flying type. But maybe they changed its type before adding Lugia.
Another thing is that Snubbull and Togepi are at the end of the dex, with no evolutions, which makes me feel like they were also created for the anime, specifically for the Pikachu's Vacation short.
What's the pentagon rule?
I know the first generation games had a lot of oddities but I find it funny that Softboiled was made a TM in those games yet only Chansey and Mew can learn the move.
Also Jynx was able to learn Thrash in the first generation games but can no longer learn them second generation onwards, though the removal was probably related to the Controversy Jynx had when it was colored black.
Also Jynx was able to learn Thrash in the first generation games but can no longer learn them second generation onwards, though the removal was probably related to the Controversy Jynx had when it was colored black.
That's honestly hard to say; there are a lot of moves learned in Gen 1 level up movesets that aren't in later movesets. It's quite possible that they just had a change in direction for the moves they wanted Jynx to learn. Granted, most of these are non-offensive moves, but still.
Some moves that fit that criteria:
Leer Charmander
Amnesia Poliwag
Stomp Tauros (an odd removal IMO, considering that the similarly-hooved Ponyta, Girafarig, and Miltank still get it)
Hydro Pump Kabuto
Harden Snorlax