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Lemingue said:
I assume movies are made bc they sell well in relation to their budget (considering animators are probably some of the most abused workers in japan, you can get them for pretty cheap).

I just think all mythicals are stupid as hell. Could literally delete them from existance and I wouldn't care. None of them have done anything of worth in this franchise other than be money making (which I guess its all that matters but I dont have to like it)
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considering Mew, the original mythical, is basically what caused the franchise to become as popular as it is, this argument is pretty wack lol.
don't disagree with the crux of it though. the vast majority of mythicals, especially in recent years, have become rather pointless and dull.
 
Azery said:
considering Mew, the original mythical, is basically what caused the franchise to become as popular as it is, this argument is pretty wack lol.
don't disagree with the crux of it though. the vast majority of mythicals, especially in recent years, have become rather pointless and dull.
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i feel like saying mew is the only thing that made the franchise popular and not a bunch of factors, both by design and coincidental that may include mew, is not an opinion i share to say the least lol.

also mew is ugly so he can be deleted idc
 
DrPumpkinz said:
Considering Mew was added to the game last minute and in secret, Mewtwo was originally meant to exist without Mew. Mew then would be like the true forms of the Galarian fossils: implied to exist (or rather stated on multiple occasions in Mew's case) but completely inaccessible.
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Honestly i feel like almost all mythicals would be cooler if we didnt know stuff about them. A mystery of what these mythos mean is always cooler than just seeing a pokemon and going "yeah makes sense i guess"
 
Lemingue said:
honestly if someone told me the games were an advertisement to the anime now, i'd belive them
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If you look at the sales chart for the Pokémon franchise, you'll find that the anime makes for a tiny fraction of the franchise's overall profits (the TCG makes significantly more money). The main reasons why it is still made is 1. it is cheap to produce and 2. it advertises the merch, which is where the real money comes from.

Also on the subject of Bank: I was always annoyed that you had to pay a subscription for using it. I wouldn't have minded a one-time upfront fee of $5 or thereabouts, but a subscription is ridiculous. People justify it with server costs, but my rebuttal is why did Bank have to be online anyway? Couldn't they have easily just stored the data on your console?
 
Sultan of Skook said:
If you look at the sales chart for the Pokémon franchise, you'll find that the anime makes for a tiny fraction of the franchise's overall profits (the TCG makes significantly more money). The main reasons why it is still made is 1. it is cheap to produce and 2. it advertises the merch, which is where the real money comes from.

Also on the subject of Bank: I was always annoyed that you had to pay a subscription for using it. I wouldn't have minded a one-time upfront fee of $5 or thereabouts, but a subscription is ridiculous. People justify it with server costs, but my rebuttal is why did Bank have to be online anyway? Couldn't they have easily just stored the data on your console?
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And they still make a lot of money- not to mention the GF has basically normalized the "Dual version" to make the double of profits on what is two basically identical games. I remember some of my friends told they bought both versions of the games only to be disappointed by the fact that they were identical. Pretty sure children are still falling for that trick today, and Pokemon gets double money for basically identical games.

So the games are like the cherry on top of the ice cream, with the ice cream being the merchandise. They are just a topping to compliment the real money maker: the merchandise.
 
I actually dont mind the gts and wonder trade being on home, because it means theres some form of online trading that isnt locked behind a nso subscription, though it being limiting dimishes the point i guess
 
DreamPrince said:
And they still make a lot of money- not to mention the GF has basically normalized the "Dual version" to make the double of profits on what is two basically identical games. I remember some of my friends told they bought both versions of the games only to be disappointed by the fact that they were identical. Pretty sure children are still falling for that trick today, and Pokemon gets double money for basically identical games.
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Unpopular opinion: I actually like multiple versions because it allows me to try multiple in-game teams. I do like that GF accidentally (or ‘’’accidentally’’’) left it so that different accounts can have different playthroughs on the same Switch, but... I’m kinda waiting on tenterhooks for the next games so I can see which mons I can use in a third playthrough of Sw/Sh.

Also, for me part of the tragedy of having no Z version was the fact that Kalos has a bunch of potentially amazing mons I wasn’t able to use.
 
It's a really good thing that we don't have all these dumb post game legendaries, it's like, so boring catching all the legendaries.


Edit: sorry if this isn't as fleshed out, i always hear everyone say it just like that. Sorry.
 
Lemingue said:
I actually dont mind the gts and wonder trade being on home, because it means theres some form of online trading that isnt locked behind a nso subscription, though it being limiting dimishes the point i guess
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It's fine it's HOME has a GTS and Wonder Trade, but it should also be in the main games like it had been the past few gens!

Scorpio said:
Unpopular opinion: I actually like multiple versions because it allows me to try multiple in-game teams. I do like that GF accidentally (or ‘’’accidentally’’’) left it so that different accounts can have different playthroughs on the same Switch, but... I’m kinda waiting on tenterhooks for the next games so I can see which mons I can use in a third playthrough of Sw/Sh.
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1. GF could just allow for multiple save files, like if they want to sort of enforce there being a "main save file" have there only be one when your start, but after becoming Champion a second one opens up letting you play through the game again anyway you like to and letting you trade between the two files. That way the player not only is able to playthrough the game again but they can also enforce restrictions on the "minor save file" like you can't trade Legendaries/Gift Pokemon from the minor file & Pokemon sent to the minor save file are only copies (though any other Pokemon you get you can send over).

2. Um, I don't think Sword & Shield are getting a third version. The DLC essentially gave us the "Third Version" content and they're now working on Gen 9.

Bloomer28 said:
It's a really good thing that we don't have all these dumb post game legendaries, it's like, so boring catching all the legendaries.
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*Looks at Crowned Tundra*
 
REALLY UNPOPULAR: Y-comm rivals the user search from x and y because like it's so easy to have fun with your friends, and there's a local mode so you can battle your friends privately! Also, there's a EASY way to find random people and have FUN and engaging battles! Also, it's very easy to socialize and get to know people ALL around the world!
 
Pikachu315111 said:
It's fine it's HOME has a GTS and Wonder Trade, but it should also be in the main games like it had been the past few gens!
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Man with how awful the nintendo online is i wouldnt be surprised if they were just dead on arrival. I wouldnt mind if they did put it on the games but like, eh?
 
Sultan of Skook said:
People justify it with server costs, but my rebuttal is why did Bank have to be online anyway? Couldn't they have easily just stored the data on your console?
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That's a good point.

I dunno, maybe to avoid hacking?

Scorpio said:
Unpopular opinion: I actually like multiple versions because it allows me to try multiple in-game teams. I do like that GF accidentally (or ‘’’accidentally’’’) left it so that different accounts can have different playthroughs on the same Switch, but... I’m kinda waiting on tenterhooks for the next games so I can see which mons I can use in a third playthrough of Sw/Sh.

Also, for me part of the tragedy of having no Z version was the fact that Kalos has a bunch of potentially amazing mons I wasn’t able to use.
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I dunno, you'd be able to run diff teams anyway on a replay.

At one point I had 6 different teams planned for whenever I felt like playing Platinum again.

The two version system is really just hardcore fleecing. It's been since day 1. Sure it incentivizes trading because of the version exclusives, but at its core it's nothing but fleecing.
 
I think the two versions were one of the big reasons pokemon got popular since they were one of the main things that made kids interact with each other for exclusives, which strenghtens the social bonding part of early pokemon

And while i think the loss of most exclusives (changing them all into choices would get repetitive too fast imo) does take a bit of the personality, two versions is outdated and should be abandoned, but wont
 
Lemingue said:
I think the two versions were one of the big reasons pokemon got popular since they were one of the main things that made kids interact with each other for exclusives, which strenghtens the social bonding part of early pokemon

And while i think the loss of most exclusives (changing them all into choices would get repetitive too fast imo) does take a bit of the personality, two versions is outdated and should be abandoned, but wont
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Well, you are actually kinda right when you look into that, but if someone has no friends to play pokemon or they all have the same game (really common ) and the addition of the dlc makes you pay more than you would get for a fully fleshed out 3rd copy, making the person feel scammed/ripped off. Also, the social bonding part isn't really core to the series now because we have online play, so you can have friends online. Your argument is actually pretty valid too. Even though this is unpopular opinions, i do get where people get this from.

Edit: I think I did this right?
 
Bloomer28 said:
Well, you are actually kinda right when you look into that, but if someone has no friends to play pokemon or they all have the same game (really common ) and the addition of the dlc makes you pay more than you would get for a fully fleshed out 3rd copy, making the person feel scammed/ripped off. Also, the social bonding part isn't really core to the series now because we have online play, so you can have friends online. Your argument is actually pretty valid too. Even though this is unpopular opinions, i do get where people get this from.

Edit: I think I did this right?
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yeah it was easier to defend in pokémon's beginnings, where the internet wasn't wide spread and online play wasn't even thought of. the two versions and exclusives meant you had to go to your friends to trade, play and battle. the fact you couldnt complete the game alone wasnt just for selling copies (honestly, it never truly was, as buying two copies still didnt allow you to get all pokemon in one copy if you didnt have two systems and whatever the method was to transfer, link cable or othewise), it was to make it an easy social game by design, as you'd talk to friends to trade and battle, and other kids would buy the game to join the fun with their friends.

this also made the game very easy to interact with others, as it grew in an exponential way, gaining a big young following. you always had a new playground rumor to talk about. this virtuous circle gave pokemon the big boy pants it has, and even after the hype faded, it gained so much of a following that the audience that wasnt a fad was still super big.

nowadays, this is lost as most pokemon fans interact online with wonder trades, gts, and online modes in general, and pokémon doesnt need social interactions to sell their games anymore
 
I might have mentioned this before but...

The elemental monkeys get way too much hate.

Yes, the game kinda pushes them on you in BW1. Yes, many of the mooks use them. Yes, Pansear with Gen V Incinerate (30 BP) is the worst thing ever.

But they are actually good Pokemon. Don't believe me? Use Panpour in BW1, that mon is ridiculous with Scald once evolved into Simipour. The other monkeys are similarly good with their respective moves.

I also think the likes of Starly spoiled people so that anything that doesn't destroy the game from the word go is somewhat looked down upon. I don't love Starly in-game all that much.
 
DrumstickGaming said:
I might have mentioned this before but...

The elemental monkeys get way too much hate.

Yes, the game kinda pushes them on you in BW1. Yes, many of the mooks use them. Yes, Pansear with Gen V Incinerate (30 BP) is the worst thing ever.

But they are actually good Pokemon. Don't believe me? Use Panpour in BW1, that mon is ridiculous with Scald once evolved into Simipour. The other monkeys are similarly good with their respective moves.

I also think the likes of Starly spoiled people so that anything that doesn't destroy the game from the word go is somewhat looked down upon. I don't love Starly in-game all that much.
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I'm pretty sure their in-game performance isn't what makes some people dislike them.

I personally couldn't care less.
 
Lemingue said:
yeah it was easier to defend in pokémon's beginnings, where the internet wasn't wide spread and online play wasn't even thought of. the two versions and exclusives meant you had to go to your friends to trade, play and battle. the fact you couldnt complete the game alone wasnt just for selling copies (honestly, it never truly was, as buying two copies still didnt allow you to get all pokemon in one copy if you didnt have two systems and whatever the method was to transfer, link cable or othewise), it was to make it an easy social game by design, as you'd talk to friends to trade and battle, and other kids would buy the game to join the fun with their friends.

this also made the game very easy to interact with others, as it grew in an exponential way, gaining a big young following. you always had a new playground rumor to talk about. this virtuous circle gave pokemon the big boy pants it has, and even after the hype faded, it gained so much of a following that the audience that wasnt a fad was still super big.

nowadays, this is lost as most pokemon fans interact online with wonder trades, gts, and online modes in general, and pokémon doesnt need social interactions to sell their games anymore
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Bro, I made a small post, and you make like a whole like mad lad essay about the stuff, and man, you just explained a whole buisness standpoint. Man. You went all out buckaroo. Kudos to you, absoulute mad lad.
 
Honestly my problem with platinum is the same as swsh, that theres so many pokemon that break the game early on that you can get so easily. the fact you can get a gible in the first 20 mins of the game is insane.

at least with swsh there so much broken shit that you get some cool team variations, even if they lead to the same "haha ggs bro" situations. most people who play platinum have almost the exact same team, excluding the starter (even though its biased by infernape due to the shit fire distribution. ponyta sucks ass).

its the opposite of johto, where theres so many awful and worthless pokemon that teams often look the same because they use one of the like... 12 pokémon worth using lol
 
DrumstickGaming said:
I might have mentioned this before but...

The elemental monkeys get way too much hate.

Yes, the game kinda pushes them on you in BW1. Yes, many of the mooks use them. Yes, Pansear with Gen V Incinerate (30 BP) is the worst thing ever.

But they are actually good Pokemon. Don't believe me? Use Panpour in BW1, that mon is ridiculous with Scald once evolved into Simipour. The other monkeys are similarly good with their respective moves.

I also think the likes of Starly spoiled people so that anything that doesn't destroy the game from the word go is somewhat looked down upon. I don't love Starly in-game all that much.
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Hey dude, you do have a good argument, but the hate is twoards the designs, since they do look dopey. But I truly think the concepts are amazing ( See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil, and how in their evolutions they become corrupted and turn into the opposites of their respective thingy ) but the execution makes them look really weird, like a lot of other gen 5 pokemon. I love everything else about the monkeys, except the weird, clunky, and just off looking evolutions to them.
 
Lemingue said:
Honestly my problem with platinum is the same as swsh, that theres so many pokemon that break the game early on that you can get so easily. the fact you can get a gible in the first 20 mins of the game is insane.

at least with swsh there so much broken shit that you get some cool team variations, even if they lead to the same "haha ggs bro" situations. most people who play platinum have almost the exact same team, excluding the starter (even though its biased by infernape due to the shit fire distribution. ponyta sucks ass).

its the opposite of johto, where theres so many awful and worthless pokemon that teams often look the same because they use one of the like... 12 pokémon worth using lol
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WHY ARE YOU RIGHT


Edit: I absolutely get what you're saying man, because in both of those games, you can basically get like some super powerful pokemon really early on, but at least pokemon platinum spices it up with brutally hard pokemon battes near the end ( ie, Cynthia, final barry fight, any elite four fight,etc. ) and the brutally hard post game. But, pokemon Sw/Sh use yeet some mega strong pokemon at you, easy leveling, and give you a game that is good for like hoenn lol. Johto has a lot of useless pokemon, and one of the hardest gauntlets ever including whitney ( SATAN), Lance, and just about any other fight, though heart gold vastly improved on this. Honestly, this isnt a unpopular opinion, it's just straight facts. Not biased.
 
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Bloomer28 said:
Hey dude, you do have a good argument, but the hate is twoards the designs, since they do look dopey. But I truly think the concepts are amazing ( See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil, and how in their evolutions they become corrupted and turn into the opposites of their respective thingy ) but the execution makes them look really weird, like a lot of other gen 5 pokemon. I love everything else about the monkeys, except the weird, clunky, and just off looking evolutions to them.
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I'm pretty sure I've seen a post by CRoll saying he didn't like how they got shoved in your face, which isn't necessarily related to design.

But I wasn't talking about design, I was talking about in-game viability. In the BW1 in-game tier list, Panpour was A for a reason.

Hilariously they all kinda suck in the sequel since you have to get them from rustling grass and everything sans the Fire Stone isn't easily available.
 
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