Unpopular opinions

Never understood why people hate Z-moves in first place. They were one time use, could be scouted via protect, or be blown by an immunity switch in, which is a huge loss because you only get one per battle. The only problem I have with Z-Moves is that they had incredibly long and unstoppable cutscenes, which is coincidentally part of the common complaints for SM, even though I'm not bothered by cutscenes in general in that game.

Eh, I could see why people don't like them:

Not Mega Evolution: For those who like Mega Evolution, even though they're still in the game, they probably see Z-Moves having taken their prominence.
One Use: Sort or relating back above, the fact it's a one-use power-up probably gave a lot of players feeling a lack of punch, especially if it didn't knock out the opponent (at least Mega Evos lasted until the Pokemon fainted). And if protected against/nullified you wasted your big move and now have no item to boot.
Long Cutscene: Sadly a problem that still exists to this day, we get it, this is a flashy power-up, we don't need to see the flashy transformation sequence. This isn't Power Rangers of Sailor Moon where you got to fill the runtime, we can skip/shorten the scene.

I think GF is maybe approaching an "ideal" when it comes to super mechanics, something that gives all Pokemon a temporary power boost, and some even a super form. However Dynamax and Gigantamax still aren't the answer I feel, they're too gimmicky with the whole "kaiju" concept plus are still only once per turn. I think something like a "power bar" could work, something that fills up for the player during the battle and when filled at certain points the player can choose to have one of their Pokemon use it to either go into a super form for a few turns, use a super attack (maybe having said move be different power/effects depending on how much the bar you have filled), & maybe some other things, and then you start to fill it again. Also I say not for them to be afraid to adjust how certain super forms and super moves work to fit into a new system, like instead of increasing base stats just have Mega Evolutions give certain stat boosts & shrink down the Gigantamax forms.
 
Honestly at this point we should just rename "Mythical Pokemon" to "Movie Pokemon". That's basically what they're designed for exclusively nowadays, their significance in the games' lore becoming more and more of an afterthought (Zarude is a key example of this: Clearly built from the ground up to suit the Tarzan story of Coco and not much else).
Counterpoint, Lugia was designed for Pokemon 2000 only.

I mentioned this once before — during a big meeting (in which even game development and distribution staff participated), the name “Lugia” was chosen by a majority vote. Since Lugia was a Pokémon I designed myself solely for the new movie, I was surprised it ended up getting used later in the games and TV show. I can only imagine what was going on in the game development and TV show departments.
Takeshi Shudo
Even though they often stick out like a sore thumb, I'll take Mythicals that only show up in movies over Mythicals whose locations are only legally accessible for a handful of months, taunting anyone who dared start a new file afterwards.
 
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And that's where it ends. Marshadow was just randomly shoved in the movie retelling of Ash's Kanto journey & Zeraora was a McGuffin in new Lugia movie. Zarude's movie however looks to be specifically made for it... so much so that I do wonder if GF made Zarude on their own or did the anime team work together/request a Pokemon to work within the new movie idea they were coming up with.

Oh right. Something I liked about Movie 20 and 21 is that it takes it's time in telling the story, setting up the characters and their journey, even though it comes at the cost of the legendary/mythical becoming a bit of an afterthought. M21 is my favorite movie...but Zeraora is prob my least favorite mythical.

Also, I dont watch much of the current anime but shouldn't Meltan have worked better with Go in Jourmeys than appearing near the end of Alola's arc? It's considered a "Pokemon Go" Pokemon after all, and it's concept revolves in searching for many Meltans in the field so they can form Melmetal, instead of Meltan suddenly gaining the power of calling its other selves right for the final match.
 
I honestly wonder why movies are even made at this point.
The movie Pokemon feel like they could be replaced by almost any other Pokemon and the result would be the same or maybe even better.
Movie 2 and 3 were some of the best movies, and non of them had Myphical Pokemon in it.

So are the movies there to advertise the new myphical Pokemon? Then they are better off selling a special and add the Pokemon code in it or advertise them with the anime.
Or just give out codes to people who purchase plushies or something of Pokemon at a certain time period.
If the myphical only exist to lure people to theaters, then I feel it's a pretty wasted way to waste resources only to make something below mediocer. The anime and games are probably doing better jobs in increasing revenue.

But I am no marketing expert so what do I know, right?
 
I assume movies are made bc they sell well in relation to their budget (considering animators are probably some of the most abused workers in japan, you can get them for pretty cheap).

I just think all mythicals are stupid as hell. Could literally delete them from existance and I wouldn't care. None of them have done anything of worth in this franchise other than be money making (which I guess its all that matters but I dont have to like it)
 
Also, I dont watch much of the current anime but shouldn't Meltan have worked better with Go in Jourmeys than appearing near the end of Alola's arc? It's considered a "Pokemon Go" Pokemon after all, and it's concept revolves in searching for many Meltans in the field so they can form Melmetal, instead of Meltan suddenly gaining the power of calling its other selves right for the final match.

You really think they thought this far ahead? :psysly:

Besides, gotta sell the new thing while it's fresh.
 
I honestly wonder why movies are even made at this point.
The movie Pokemon feel like they could be replaced by almost any other Pokemon and the result would be the same or maybe even better.
Movie 2 and 3 were some of the best movies, and non of them had Myphical Pokemon in it.

So are the movies there to advertise the new myphical Pokemon? Then they are better off selling a special and add the Pokemon code in it or advertise them with the anime.
Or just give out codes to people who purchase plushies or something of Pokemon at a certain time period.
If the myphical only exist to lure people to theaters, then I feel it's a pretty wasted way to waste resources only to make something below mediocer. The anime and games are probably doing better jobs in increasing revenue.

But I am no marketing expert so what do I know, right?

The movies are made moreso to advertise the anime as, at least in the past, the movies were essentially big budget episode(s). Since they were big productions they would obviously want "major" Pokemon to star in them, hence the movies involving Legendaries, Mythicals, and once in a while a special Pokemon from what would be the next gen (Lucario & Zoroark, though even their movies starred Legendaries & Mythicals in important roles). It was just easier to theme the movies around the Mythicals as GF was going to give them a special distribution anyway so why not sell the movie on that. This is also why we get an anime each year, to coincide with new seasons of the anime (at least used to when they were semi-canon).

I know what your next question is: "why advertise the anime"? Because the anime is a major advertisement for the Pokemon, specifically individual species of Pokemon. Aside for a few Pokemon, almost every Pokemon has appeared in the anime and if you're a fan of that Pokemon, even if the episode wasn't that good, you may still like to see your favorite Pokemon having animation and interactions you wouldn't see elsewhere. And while many of us make fun of Ash & say they should retire him, Ash's presence has had a major effect on the franchise and he's just as recognizable & iconic to Pokemon as any of the Pokemon species. I could have sworn I read somewhere that Ash & Pikachu merch usually tend to sell more than merch featuring just Pikachu. So overall, even though the anime itself is an advertisement, it's also not a bad idea to advertise the anime and that's what the movies do. Of course things have changed in recent years with the movies now going into an alternate universe featuring Ash and also just a straight up 3D remake of the first Pokemon movie, it's still anime adjacent though not really advertising the anime. But still, it features Ash and main anime still included Marshadow and Zeraora so that still counts and I'm sure the same will go for Zarude.
 
I assume movies are made bc they sell well in relation to their budget (considering animators are probably some of the most abused workers in japan, you can get them for pretty cheap).

I just think all mythicals are stupid as hell. Could literally delete them from existance and I wouldn't care. None of them have done anything of worth in this franchise other than be money making (which I guess its all that matters but I dont have to like it)
considering Mew, the original mythical, is basically what caused the franchise to become as popular as it is, this argument is pretty wack lol.
don't disagree with the crux of it though. the vast majority of mythicals, especially in recent years, have become rather pointless and dull.
 
considering Mew, the original mythical, is basically what caused the franchise to become as popular as it is, this argument is pretty wack lol.
don't disagree with the crux of it though. the vast majority of mythicals, especially in recent years, have become rather pointless and dull.
i feel like saying mew is the only thing that made the franchise popular and not a bunch of factors, both by design and coincidental that may include mew, is not an opinion i share to say the least lol.

also mew is ugly so he can be deleted idc
 
Considering Mew was added to the game last minute and in secret, Mewtwo was originally meant to exist without Mew. Mew then would be like the true forms of the Galarian fossils: implied to exist (or rather stated on multiple occasions in Mew's case) but completely inaccessible.
Honestly i feel like almost all mythicals would be cooler if we didnt know stuff about them. A mystery of what these mythos mean is always cooler than just seeing a pokemon and going "yeah makes sense i guess"
 
honestly if someone told me the games were an advertisement to the anime now, i'd belive them

If you look at the sales chart for the Pokémon franchise, you'll find that the anime makes for a tiny fraction of the franchise's overall profits (the TCG makes significantly more money). The main reasons why it is still made is 1. it is cheap to produce and 2. it advertises the merch, which is where the real money comes from.

Also on the subject of Bank: I was always annoyed that you had to pay a subscription for using it. I wouldn't have minded a one-time upfront fee of $5 or thereabouts, but a subscription is ridiculous. People justify it with server costs, but my rebuttal is why did Bank have to be online anyway? Couldn't they have easily just stored the data on your console?
 
If you look at the sales chart for the Pokémon franchise, you'll find that the anime makes for a tiny fraction of the franchise's overall profits (the TCG makes significantly more money). The main reasons why it is still made is 1. it is cheap to produce and 2. it advertises the merch, which is where the real money comes from.

Also on the subject of Bank: I was always annoyed that you had to pay a subscription for using it. I wouldn't have minded a one-time upfront fee of $5 or thereabouts, but a subscription is ridiculous. People justify it with server costs, but my rebuttal is why did Bank have to be online anyway? Couldn't they have easily just stored the data on your console?
And they still make a lot of money- not to mention the GF has basically normalized the "Dual version" to make the double of profits on what is two basically identical games. I remember some of my friends told they bought both versions of the games only to be disappointed by the fact that they were identical. Pretty sure children are still falling for that trick today, and Pokemon gets double money for basically identical games.

So the games are like the cherry on top of the ice cream, with the ice cream being the merchandise. They are just a topping to compliment the real money maker: the merchandise.
 
I actually dont mind the gts and wonder trade being on home, because it means theres some form of online trading that isnt locked behind a nso subscription, though it being limiting dimishes the point i guess
 
And they still make a lot of money- not to mention the GF has basically normalized the "Dual version" to make the double of profits on what is two basically identical games. I remember some of my friends told they bought both versions of the games only to be disappointed by the fact that they were identical. Pretty sure children are still falling for that trick today, and Pokemon gets double money for basically identical games.

Unpopular opinion: I actually like multiple versions because it allows me to try multiple in-game teams. I do like that GF accidentally (or ‘’’accidentally’’’) left it so that different accounts can have different playthroughs on the same Switch, but... I’m kinda waiting on tenterhooks for the next games so I can see which mons I can use in a third playthrough of Sw/Sh.

Also, for me part of the tragedy of having no Z version was the fact that Kalos has a bunch of potentially amazing mons I wasn’t able to use.
 
It's a really good thing that we don't have all these dumb post game legendaries, it's like, so boring catching all the legendaries.


Edit: sorry if this isn't as fleshed out, i always hear everyone say it just like that. Sorry.
 
I actually dont mind the gts and wonder trade being on home, because it means theres some form of online trading that isnt locked behind a nso subscription, though it being limiting dimishes the point i guess

It's fine it's HOME has a GTS and Wonder Trade, but it should also be in the main games like it had been the past few gens!

Unpopular opinion: I actually like multiple versions because it allows me to try multiple in-game teams. I do like that GF accidentally (or ‘’’accidentally’’’) left it so that different accounts can have different playthroughs on the same Switch, but... I’m kinda waiting on tenterhooks for the next games so I can see which mons I can use in a third playthrough of Sw/Sh.

1. GF could just allow for multiple save files, like if they want to sort of enforce there being a "main save file" have there only be one when your start, but after becoming Champion a second one opens up letting you play through the game again anyway you like to and letting you trade between the two files. That way the player not only is able to playthrough the game again but they can also enforce restrictions on the "minor save file" like you can't trade Legendaries/Gift Pokemon from the minor file & Pokemon sent to the minor save file are only copies (though any other Pokemon you get you can send over).

2. Um, I don't think Sword & Shield are getting a third version. The DLC essentially gave us the "Third Version" content and they're now working on Gen 9.

It's a really good thing that we don't have all these dumb post game legendaries, it's like, so boring catching all the legendaries.

*Looks at Crowned Tundra*
 
REALLY UNPOPULAR: Y-comm rivals the user search from x and y because like it's so easy to have fun with your friends, and there's a local mode so you can battle your friends privately! Also, there's a EASY way to find random people and have FUN and engaging battles! Also, it's very easy to socialize and get to know people ALL around the world!
 
It's fine it's HOME has a GTS and Wonder Trade, but it should also be in the main games like it had been the past few gens!
Man with how awful the nintendo online is i wouldnt be surprised if they were just dead on arrival. I wouldnt mind if they did put it on the games but like, eh?
 
People justify it with server costs, but my rebuttal is why did Bank have to be online anyway? Couldn't they have easily just stored the data on your console?

That's a good point.

I dunno, maybe to avoid hacking?

Unpopular opinion: I actually like multiple versions because it allows me to try multiple in-game teams. I do like that GF accidentally (or ‘’’accidentally’’’) left it so that different accounts can have different playthroughs on the same Switch, but... I’m kinda waiting on tenterhooks for the next games so I can see which mons I can use in a third playthrough of Sw/Sh.

Also, for me part of the tragedy of having no Z version was the fact that Kalos has a bunch of potentially amazing mons I wasn’t able to use.

I dunno, you'd be able to run diff teams anyway on a replay.

At one point I had 6 different teams planned for whenever I felt like playing Platinum again.

The two version system is really just hardcore fleecing. It's been since day 1. Sure it incentivizes trading because of the version exclusives, but at its core it's nothing but fleecing.
 
I think the two versions were one of the big reasons pokemon got popular since they were one of the main things that made kids interact with each other for exclusives, which strenghtens the social bonding part of early pokemon

And while i think the loss of most exclusives (changing them all into choices would get repetitive too fast imo) does take a bit of the personality, two versions is outdated and should be abandoned, but wont
 
I think the two versions were one of the big reasons pokemon got popular since they were one of the main things that made kids interact with each other for exclusives, which strenghtens the social bonding part of early pokemon

And while i think the loss of most exclusives (changing them all into choices would get repetitive too fast imo) does take a bit of the personality, two versions is outdated and should be abandoned, but wont


Well, you are actually kinda right when you look into that, but if someone has no friends to play pokemon or they all have the same game (really common ) and the addition of the dlc makes you pay more than you would get for a fully fleshed out 3rd copy, making the person feel scammed/ripped off. Also, the social bonding part isn't really core to the series now because we have online play, so you can have friends online. Your argument is actually pretty valid too. Even though this is unpopular opinions, i do get where people get this from.

Edit: I think I did this right?
 
Well, you are actually kinda right when you look into that, but if someone has no friends to play pokemon or they all have the same game (really common ) and the addition of the dlc makes you pay more than you would get for a fully fleshed out 3rd copy, making the person feel scammed/ripped off. Also, the social bonding part isn't really core to the series now because we have online play, so you can have friends online. Your argument is actually pretty valid too. Even though this is unpopular opinions, i do get where people get this from.

Edit: I think I did this right?

yeah it was easier to defend in pokémon's beginnings, where the internet wasn't wide spread and online play wasn't even thought of. the two versions and exclusives meant you had to go to your friends to trade, play and battle. the fact you couldnt complete the game alone wasnt just for selling copies (honestly, it never truly was, as buying two copies still didnt allow you to get all pokemon in one copy if you didnt have two systems and whatever the method was to transfer, link cable or othewise), it was to make it an easy social game by design, as you'd talk to friends to trade and battle, and other kids would buy the game to join the fun with their friends.

this also made the game very easy to interact with others, as it grew in an exponential way, gaining a big young following. you always had a new playground rumor to talk about. this virtuous circle gave pokemon the big boy pants it has, and even after the hype faded, it gained so much of a following that the audience that wasnt a fad was still super big.

nowadays, this is lost as most pokemon fans interact online with wonder trades, gts, and online modes in general, and pokémon doesnt need social interactions to sell their games anymore
 
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