Unpopular opinions

On topic: i dont understand why people want to make luxray a dark type. Because it has black fur? So that means its edgy and edgy = dark type...? Idk, it just doesnt seem to have the flavor for me, but maybe theres dex stuff that make it fit dark type or something.
I think it's a combination of several other Dark-types being of similar build and/or having their Dex also focus on hunting (e.g. Mightyena, Weavile, Linoone-Galar, Absol, Theivul) and becuase Luxray gets a couple interesting Dark moves (fake tears, throat chop, thief), which is a lot more than can be said for the rest of its non-Electric movepool. Luxray's ability set of Intimidate, Rivalry, and Guts lends itself intuitively to Dark as well.
 
For that matter, there's something I'll never understand about Pokémon (and in general), and that's people who dislike something because of what OTHERS might think of it.

So what if others find something like Lopunny "furry bait" as they say? What do you think of it by yourself alone?

(I personally don't really care. Heck, were it not for the entire flame war about it, I'd struggle to remember it exists)

It's as if I started disliking the Snivy line because the fandom sees it as feminine when I don't. Or that vore artwork I still have no idea why it even exists.

Wait, how can you even assign a snake with no limbs? And also, I don't know where people get the feministic thing about snivy and it's line, because the theme was royal and snobby, so why get female out of a completely female thing? ( maybe serpintine's face? idk ) But really, making a big deal about this stuff and starting a bandwagon of hate against this is just going to make more of it like the de-legalization of booze in America, if you give something so much attention and make all thi stuff about it, it'll just become even more popular. We just need to leave those freaks where they are in the far reaches of the internet, this'll all die down and we won't be plauged with this "sexy" weird renditions of royal and snobby monster plant snakes that don't even have limbs in the later evolutions, and let this go. Ignore the fur bait guys, ignore the rabbits, ignore the snakes, just ignore this so it dies down, and we don't have to worry about this anymore.


Edit: By leaving this be I meant it in a way where we don't interact with it, don't give it attention, and just stop making big campaigns against it. Sometimes trying to isolate the plauge instead of curing it is better.

On topic: i dont understand why people want to make luxray a dark type. Because it has black fur? So that means its edgy and edgy = dark type...? Idk, it just doesnt seem to have the flavor for me, but maybe theres dex stuff that make it fit dark type or something.

I agree with you, since in his dex entries he's supposed to be a noble lion, but ignorant people who don't know better see the pallet and say " Look at those eyes bro and his fur, he's like, soooo evil bro," and they see like that it hunts, like Ironmage said, so they associate with other dark types that hunt. They don't see the noble lion stuff, and focus on the other stuff. Also, having a early dark type like by the 4th gym is wack and kinda throws off the balance of the game maybe ( I'm not good at that field) Really, looking angry and a pallet doesn't make you a dark type, it's what you do, like how mightyena terrorizes people and liepard is spoiled and kind of a jerk and steals stuff.

Edit: Take clement's Luxray from the anime. Luxray is a good guy that always saves clement, and helps everyone else in the party, while the shadow triad's weaviles are assassins, doing shady stuff and taking out various trainers for a bad cause. Some dark types can be trained by the right people to become nice, but they fit better with other bad people, which is their nature, and this applies to luxray too, but as you can see in the anime it doesn't take a long time before he's present, friendly, and easy to adapt and be nice to the other buds. Also , his decks show him as a noble, caring guy that takes care of the entire ecosystem.
 
Here's a hot take: People hate Chikorita for the wrong reasons. It's a starter, yes, but in-game I don't want my bulky grass types to be sweeping everything. I DO want them to provide Para/Sleep/Seed support, as well as being useable on water routes. Chikorita only gets Poison Powder for status, which means I need to be using something with Hypnosis or similar for catches, and it's weak to Poison as well as being slow, so I can't rely on it against infinite hordes of Tentacool. Losing hard to Falkner/Bugsy is a big problem as well, but I could live with that. I can't live with trying to Hypnosis Raikou and missing every time.
 
Here's a hot take: People hate Chikorita for the wrong reasons. It's a starter, yes, but in-game I don't want my bulky grass types to be sweeping everything. I DO want them to provide Para/Sleep/Seed support, as well as being useable on water routes. Chikorita only gets Poison Powder for status, which means I need to be using something with Hypnosis or similar for catches, and it's weak to Poison as well as being slow, so I can't rely on it against infinite hordes of Tentacool. Losing hard to Falkner/Bugsy is a big problem as well, but I could live with that. I can't live with trying to Hypnosis Raikou and missing every time.
Ok, I kinda get that, because the last people were saying that chickorita was good for all the wrong reasons, but you do you. A lot of people like using their starters as a mainstage guy, but this is a valid argument too. Having someon eto sleep powder a guy and put on some status is a great reason, but he will get outshined on water routes by raikou after you get him, so he'll mostly be there from support at the backlines, like a supportive dad that's been there since the beginning, cheering on his kids, because his old bones can't get going.

Edit: maybe it's just your luck because sleep powder has 75 and hypnosis has 60, so maybe it's just your luck bro. Hypnosis hates me too.
 
On topic: i dont understand why people want to make luxray a dark type. Because it has black fur? So that means its edgy and edgy = dark type...? Idk, it just doesnt seem to have the flavor for me, but maybe theres dex stuff that make it fit dark type or something.

Because being poverty Electivire was a bad look even in Gen 4.

I need my boy to get some real moves, Game Freak!!! :psycry:
 
Snivy is regarded as feminine probably due to the fact Ash had a female one, who also notably sounds feminine. Games reused that VA

For Chikorita, both probably due to voice, and flowers looking frillier compared to Venu's Raffelasia
 
For Chikorita, both probably due to voice, and flowers looking frillier compared to Venu's Raffelasia

Also, you know...
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Snivy is regarded as feminine probably due to the fact Ash had a female one, who also notably sounds feminine. Games reused that VA

For Chikorita, both probably due to voice, and flowers looking frillier compared to Venu's Raffelasia

What games? If you mean the main, no, Snivy's cry is digital sound effects like all the other Pokemon. The only Pokemon with a VA are Pikachu and Eevee.

To me Snivy all the way up to Serperior look pretty androgynous. The only parts of its design you could say looks feminine is it having a sleek body (which goes from a small chest to a bigger waist which is usually a feminine body type), the eyes (Snivy does look like it's giving you bedroom eyes in its default art; Servine still has similar eyes though Serperior loses them), and the patterns on Servine's and Serperior's head could look like a curly pixie cut. Guess I should also note one of the inspirations for the Snivy's family design was Lady Oscar from the anime The Rose of Versailles, a woman who dressed as a male soldier during the French Revolution. They did it mostly becuase they wanted a European/French-inspired design for the Snivy family, though the subtle feminine of the character could have likely influenced some design aspects as well.

Chikorita's femininity I would say has to do with the seeds around Chikoria's neck looking like a necklace and, though it becomes buds and a flower as it evolves, the idea of it looking like a necklace initially colors our perception keeping it looking like a necklace for its evolutions. It may also have to do with the eyes and the "pleasantness" of the face; the face is very simple and a smooth texture which is a trait people compare to beautiful faces, mostly women as men are allowed to have beards/facial stubble.
 
Unpopular opinion: We all know that gen 6 had the least pokemon, but I'm here to say it had some of the worst designs too. Take surpluff for example. It is a fat, weird, cotton candy thing that really isn't appealing to anyone, along with aromatise. I'm not trying to be a genwunner, but these new dsigns are kinda off. There is some gem like tyrantrum, but some pokemon like arourous feel really under designed and just weird sometimes, kinda like some other gen 1 designs. I say that gen 6 some of the worst designs, paired with the least designs, kinda making it a odd ball game in the series, when the pokemon you're catching don't really connect with you and don't look beautiful or feirce of super cool.
 
Unpopular opinion: We all know that gen 6 had the least pokemon, but I'm here to say it had some of the worst designs too. Take surpluff for example. It is a fat, weird, cotton candy thing that really isn't appealing to anyone, along with aromatise. I'm not trying to be a genwunner, but these new dsigns are kinda off. There is some gem like tyrantrum, but some pokemon like arourous feel really under designed and just weird sometimes, kinda like some other gen 1 designs. I say that gen 6 some of the worst designs, paired with the least designs, kinda making it a odd ball game in the series, when the pokemon you're catching don't really connect with you and don't look beautiful or feirce of super cool.

Could not disagree more. Even though gen VI is probably my least favourite gen, I think it has one of the best designed rosters of Pokemon by far. There's so many great designs - Aurorus is fantastical and slightly ethereal and looks like it stepped out of The Land Before Time; Helioptile is adorable and a quirky new take on the Electric type; Avalugg is gruff and stolid in a way few Ice-types manage to be. Hawlucha looks comical at first but has really grown on me over the years. Barbaracle is wonderfully weird-looking. Talonflame and Tyrantrum have two of the best shinies in the whole series. Goodra is a borderline hilarious new take on the pseudo-legendary concept. Vivillon is charmingly simplistic and the pixel art design on its wings is a neat little throwback to earlier gen gaming. Noivern's sleek and nimble appearance matches its statistical frailty and the earphone eyes... I mean ears... still catch me out to this day.

It's very rare that all three starters appeal to me equally; the Kalos starters are probably the only set of starters where this is the case. All three final evolutions are based on RPG archetypes: Chesnaught is a rugged knight, Delphox is a wicked mage, and Greninja is an elegant... well, ninja. They also all have excellent shiny forms. The three "cover legendaries" are all great in their own way, too. The first Fairy-type legendary could easily have been pink and swooshy which would have alienated half the fandom, but Xerneas is imposing and majestic and has a captivating design (it's striking that so soon after having four deer Pokemon in Gen V they managed to do a fifth that felt entirely fresh and different). Yveltal is striking and oddly chilling; it's one of the few legitimately scary legendary Pokemon. The fact that both Pokemon have the same stat spread is a subtle design choice I'm quite fond of. Also, the connection to the X and Y aspects of their design are subtle and not overplayed; other than both of them briefly striking a pose resembling the letters, it's not remarked upon much in-game.

Zygarde appeals to me for its design and its abilities, but also for its mystique. We all know it should have headlined its own game, but it never had the chance to. I badly want its story told properly one day (and yes I know the anime had a stab and the manga did it far better, but Zygarde deserves a game of its own). The Pokemaniacal blog has some very interesting thoughts (link below) on what role Zygarde could play in relation to Xerneas and Yveltal, and the scope of a potential "Z" version.

Meanwhile the three mythicals exude totally different characteristics: Volcanion is tough and dynamic, Hoopa is snide and crafty, and Diancie is sleek and beautiful. All three are brilliantly designed (and, having always wanted a Fire/Water type, I've always had a special fondness for Volcanion).

Even when it comes to the mons I'm not hugely into (like Slurpuff) I still think that they're pretty decent designs. Slurpuff is rather kooky but at least looks fairly strong; it's believable that it could pull off moves like Belly Drum.

The only design I really cannot stand from this gen is Diggersby; it looks incredibly ugly and cumbersome. But that's a pretty good ratio!

 
Could not disagree more. Even though gen VI is probably my least favourite gen, I think it has one of the best designed rosters of Pokemon by far. There's so many great designs - Aurorus is fantastical and slightly ethereal and looks like it stepped out of The Land Before Time; Helioptile is adorable and a quirky new take on the Electric type; Avalugg is gruff and stolid in a way few Ice-types manage to be. Hawlucha looks comical at first but has really grown on me over the years. Barbaracle is wonderfully weird-looking. Talonflame and Tyrantrum have two of the best shinies in the whole series. Goodra is a borderline hilarious new take on the pseudo-legendary concept. Vivillon is charmingly simplistic and the pixel art design on its wings is a neat little throwback to earlier gen gaming. Noivern's sleek and nimble appearance matches its statistical frailty and the earphone eyes... I mean ears... still catch me out to this day.

It's very rare that all three starters appeal to me equally; the Kalos starters are probably the only set of starters where this is the case. All three final evolutions are based on RPG archetypes: Chesnaught is a rugged knight, Delphox is a wicked mage, and Greninja is an elegant... well, ninja. They also all have excellent shiny forms. The three "cover legendaries" are all great in their own way, too. The first Fairy-type legendary could easily have been pink and swooshy which would have alienated half the fandom, but Xerneas is imposing and majestic and has a captivating design (it's striking that so soon after having four deer Pokemon in Gen V they managed to do a fifth that felt entirely fresh and different). Yveltal is striking and oddly chilling; it's one of the few legitimately scary legendary Pokemon. The fact that both Pokemon have the same stat spread is a subtle design choice I'm quite fond of. Also, the connection to the X and Y aspects of their design are subtle and not overplayed; other than both of them briefly striking a pose resembling the letters, it's not remarked upon much in-game.

Zygarde appeals to me for its design and its abilities, but also for its mystique. We all know it should have headlined its own game, but it never had the chance to. I badly want its story told properly one day (and yes I know the anime had a stab and the manga did it far better, but Zygarde deserves a game of its own). The Pokemaniacal blog has some very interesting thoughts (link below) on what role Zygarde could play in relation to Xerneas and Yveltal, and the scope of a potential "Z" version.

Meanwhile the three mythicals exude totally different characteristics: Volcanion is tough and dynamic, Hoopa is snide and crafty, and Diancie is sleek and beautiful. All three are brilliantly designed (and, having always wanted a Fire/Water type, I've always had a special fondness for Volcanion).

Even when it comes to the mons I'm not hugely into (like Slurpuff) I still think that they're pretty decent designs. Slurpuff is rather kooky but at least looks fairly strong; it's believable that it could pull off moves like Belly Drum.

The only design I really cannot stand from this gen is Diggersby; it looks incredibly ugly and cumbersome. But that's a pretty good ratio!

Yeah, you kinda changed my mind. There is a lot of beautiful designs, and I guess i was looking at the weaker designs, but i still wish that aurorus had something on it's massive negeative space like some other pokemon, like Yveatel, where on his massive wings they put this like really cool vain design, but i just really don't like large gaps with nothing breaking apart that negative space, but with everything else, you really changed my mind. i'll look at gen 6 and other games different now because of you. Thanks a lot duderoni.

Edit: Zygardes like hex design is really cool and a nice touch ngl, because it makes it look like super futuristic and artificial, so I would;ve personnaly liked it to be like a artificial mon like magnemite, where it was created as a weapon, but after escaping and gaing counsisness, it turned to tending to the ecosystem and protecting it with it's powers. Zyagrde was a dissapointment honestly.

Edit 2: Chesnaught isn't as bad as the mess that is quilladon, But he still looks disproportionate, and dopey with the small head that's super furry with the giant back and arms and legs that are a smooth, tannish color. Also, those red acents lining the body are just weird looking form a distance, \and don't really fit. Not saying any other colors than green should be on a grass type, but they don't fit with the pokemon fully in this case. other than that, there is a few duds here and there, but you helped me really understand all the other designs. Once again, thank you.

Edit 3: Remember when everyone just completely criticized this game with that same argument I said, word for word? People still do it today, and I don't get why people argue over a pokemon's design, since it's all opinion. Maybe the fanbase should stop like trying to brick road a game off, because we should just let people probably like what they like and not like the game in your head, but not share it with everyone and try to get people to not get it. Have someone see if they like the game by themself, and not force our opinions on them. r/showerthoughts.

Edit 4: No offense to you Typhlosion, I'm talking about the opinion. i don't want to say i was completely against it form the beginning, since I did post it, and you did nothing, I have no idea why I splartde out edit 3 randomly. Sorry if that really hurt you and painted a bad picture out of me.

Edit 5: Is there a Pikachu post coming rn?

Edit 6: Why did i have so many spelling mistakes?

Edit 7: WHY AM I MAKING SO MANY EDITS?
 
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The only design I really cannot stand from this gen is Diggersby; it looks incredibly ugly and cumbersome. But that's a pretty good ratio!

The early route rodents are almost always the one constant blemish in any generation's roster of Pokemon, imo. With the exception of Linoone and Furret who are at least cute, the rodents are all ugly abominations who I absolutely cannot stand the sight of, and not only that, with the exception of Diggersby itself and Linoone in competitive, the rodents are all complete trash battle wise. Furret itself is garbage in battle, and all of them are useless in game except as HM users outside of battle.

It is very difficult for me to dislike any Pokemon, and I at least like most Pokemon that exist, but the rodents barring Linoone are among the few Pokemon that I actively dislike. Most of them are an absolutely unpleasant sight to look at for me, especially Watchog, Diggersby, and Gumshoos.
 
Edit 3: Remember when everyone just completely criticized this game with that same argument I said, word for word? People still do it today, and I don't get why people argue over a pokemon's design, since it's all opinion. Maybe the fanbase should stop like trying to brick road a game off, because we should just let people probably like what they like and not like the game in your head, but not share it with everyone and try to get people to not get it. Have someone see if they like the game by themself, and not force our opinions on them. r/showerthoughts.

Edit 4: No offense to you Typhlosion, I'm talking about the opinion. i don't want to say i was completely against it form the beginning, since I did post it, and you did nothing, I have no idea why I splartde out edit 3 randomly. Sorry if that really hurt you and painted a bad picture out of me.

You're good, dw.

The early route rodents are almost always the one constant blemish in any generation's roster of Pokemon, imo. With the exception of Linoone and Furret who are at least cute, the rodents are all ugly abominations who I absolutely cannot stand the sight of, and not only that, with the exception of Diggersby itself and Linoone in competitive, the rodents are all complete trash battle wise. Furret itself is garbage in battle, and all of them are useless in game except as HM users outside of battle.

It is very difficult for me to dislike any Pokemon, and I at least like most Pokemon that exist, but the rodents barring Linoone are among the few Pokemon that I actively dislike. Most of them are an absolutely unpleasant sight to look at for me, especially Watchog, Diggersby, and Gumshoos.

See, it's funny because, like Mova said, I find it very hard to actively dislike any Pokemon, and I make it a policy to try out as many of the Pokemon as I can when I replay old games, so over the course of the series (pre-SwSh) I've used nearly all the Pokemon at one point or another. But there are a few designs I really can't bear and Diggersby is one.

The other rodents don't grate on me (though I'm not fond of Gumshoos purely for the Trump resemblance); even the uglier ones like Bibarel and Raticate have some appeal. But I truly cannot bring myself to like Diggersby, and it's one I don't think I'll ever use unless it's in some sort of Battle Factory environment. I even caught a very-nearly flawless Bunnelby on Pokemon Go and found myself irrationally pissed off for doing so.
 
I like Kingler's front sprite in Red/Blue.

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Yes, I know that it is technically "wrong" since the claws are equally big here, while Kingler's official design and other sprites shows it with one claw being bigger than the other. But I actually like this better than Kingler's official design. Blue was also my first Pokémon game and this was the way I originally saw Kingler in the games, so this design has always felt more correct to me. In comparison to other crab-like Pokémon, I like Crawdaunt, Crustle and Crabominable better than Kingler since their claws/fists are equally big. But I think the concept of having one claw bigger than the other can work if they go all out and make something really cool with it. Like they did with Clawitzer, which I think is an awesome Pokémon and one of my top favorites from Gen 6. Kingler doesn't do either in its official design, but it does have equally big claws in its R/B sprite which is why I like it more there than in any other depiction of it even if this design is wrong.
 
I may be misremembering, but I remind Hau being always going how he wants to be as good as Hala, and he's convinced that "as long as he keeps having fun he'll be ok".
Until he finds out that's not how it works. (That mostly happens on USUM iirc)
This discussion might have happened forever ago but I don't care
Hau being always going how he wants to be as good as Hala
This does happen in both games
and he's convinced that "as long as he keeps having fun he'll be ok".
this on the other hand doesn't; Hau does mention that Hala taught him that as long as he had fun and didn't concern himself about things such as winning or losing he'd become strong before he realized it, but Hau questions this logic well before the plot about Lillie's kidnapping


On more recent unpopular opinions: I don't care about Peony and actively hate his daughter Peonia
also I like Calyrex design
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On more recent unpopular opinions: I don't care about Peony and actively hate his daughter Peonia

Peony grew on me with his shenanigans but I can see how he may not have left an impact on others. I thought he was going to be more involved with things, but he's mainly background and half the time he's being used as a mouthpiece for Calyrex. He does one important thing, makes the Reigns of Union (also arguably find the cap of the statue), but otherwise you can probably write him out of the story (easy enough to replace anything Peony had involvement in with something else, like here's a scenario I just put together: After arriving to the train station you're told by an attendant about Freezington. You head up there, greeted by the mayor, and told about the statue. Upon examining the statue you see Calyrex you leads you to the Dynamax Adventure. After doing a Dynamax Adventure you find the cap of the statue. You put the cap back on the statue, the townsfolk are happy to see the statue complete again, and when everyone clears out Calyrex beckons you again but this time it's able to speak telepathically as people in town are praising it again. It tells you about the what happens, needs to get his mount, yada yada. Only difference here on is that the mayor is actually able to make the Reigns of Union).

Peonia however is completely forgettable and does seem like a jerk to her father on the surface. Now once you get to know the characters you know she just wants her space and Peony is a tad bit too smothering, and she apologizes for using you as a distraction, though after that the only thing she does is unlock a certain Legendaries Dynamax Adventure and give you the colored goggles... all of which could have been done with one of the scientists & doctors hanging around. At the very least she could also have additional dialogue about the Legendaries you capture like her father...

Gen 4 ruined my lore. :pikuh:

What lore?
 
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