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While I agree with you on paper, I think for in-game play these distinctions matter much less. Physical and special are really distinct in competitive play where opponents are EV-trained, but in-game the difference between using Seed Bomb and Energy Ball is barely noticeable. Similarly, Whimsicott being a good support Pokémon is cool in competitive doubles, but in-game you still just use SunnyBeam, just as you also do on Maractus and Lilligant. Amoongus and Ferrothorn are, however, fun defensive options, and I do think Sawsbuck is an exception to the rule with its Normal-Type STAB, Jump Kick, and Megahorn. It’s a fun Choice Band user if you go out of your way to get one from the Battle Subway, which is pretty unique for a Grass-Type Pokémon.

Basically I agree with you with regards to competitive, but in-game not so much. Lilligant is by all accounts a Bellossom in-game.
Hard disagree on Lilligant. It gets quiver dance before level 30, so it can sweep pretty much every fight in the game regardless of whether they resist grass or not. It also gets petal dance, which is just as powerful as solar beam but without the need for sun. For that reason, own tempo is better than chlorophyl.

What's the issue with sunnybeam anyway? I think it's more fun than just spamming attacks, and it can be very powerful. I do agree that gen 1 and 2 over-rely on chlorophyl, which makes the common grass types in those games feel very samy, but that's mostly because there weren't that many different ability options back then. Gen 3 actually puts an interesting twist on the weather abuser concept by not just making chlorophyl sweepers, but also a swift swim and sand veil abusers. Cradily also stands out as an interesting mon, and Sceptile has a unique statline and good coverage in ORAS. I don't know, I just don't really see the 'grass types are boring' thing outside of gen 1 and 2.
 
Grass is designed as a "Support/Disrupt" type, but when *everyone* gets *everything* the point really is a bit moot.

Think about it this way. If you look at in-game performance, which pure Grass-types stand out? The ones that do something different.

Chikorita in GSC gets Reflect and that helps a lot against Miltank. It also gets Body Slam naturally. You don't get Sleep Powder for cheesing or even Stun Spore.

Treecko in RSE is ridiculously fast and actually gets decent STAB later in the game just in time to slice up the Water segment.

Lilligant gets Quiver Dance and is a legit sweeper.

Grookey gets legit coverage (but no Seed Bomb. Weeeeird.) and solid stats.


Meanwhile, you look at that endless garden of unremarkable junk that either got no stats or are just status spreaders like Sunflora, Oddish, Bellsprout...
Also, a lot of them are Grass/Poison with the same role of status spreader of which only Roserade sticks out a bit in-game due to actually having Speed but it's as miserable as using Victreebel because it also gets its STABs resisted constantly and having to pick between status or coverage.
 
A sadistic and bloodthirsty Wigglytuff would be a pretty hilarious Pokemon to have in a work, I think.
Uh, yeah. Been there, done that.

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The anime isn't really new to presenting a mon with an opposite personality of what you expect. We got Ash's Chikorita (easy guys, I'm not going to remind you-know-what), who despite being the 'femenine choice' for Johto starter, she had tough and violent tendencies, especially compared with the shy Cyndaquil and jolly Totodile. There's also this little Teddiursa whose cutesyness is just a facade.
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(why would a grass type eat hot dogs, how could Misty fell so easily for this smh...)

There's also this evil Togepi from a random DP episode, with PSYCHIC AND FLAMETHROWER of all things!
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Grass is designed as a "Support/Disrupt" type, but when *everyone* gets *everything* the point really is a bit moot.

Think about it this way. If you look at in-game performance, which pure Grass-types stand out? The ones that do something different.

Chikorita in GSC gets Reflect and that helps a lot against Miltank. It also gets Body Slam naturally. You don't get Sleep Powder for cheesing or even Stun Spore.

Treecko in RSE is ridiculously fast and actually gets decent STAB later in the game just in time to slice up the Water segment.

Lilligant gets Quiver Dance and is a legit sweeper.

Grookey gets legit coverage (but no Seed Bomb. Weeeeird.) and solid stats.


Meanwhile, you look at that endless garden of unremarkable junk that either got no stats or are just status spreaders like Sunflora, Oddish, Bellsprout...
Also, a lot of them are Grass/Poison with the same role of status spreader of which only Roserade sticks out a bit in-game due to actually having Speed but it's as miserable as using Victreebel because it also gets its STABs resisted constantly and having to pick between status or coverage.

Hard disagree on Bellsprout and Oddish. Both can hit pretty hard while learning Sleep Powder and other status moves naturally - Bellsprout in particular swept Bugsy's team for me very recently while underleveled (L15), albeit I needed two Potions and used an X-Accuracy to make Sleep Powder never miss, but it's still pretty cool. In the future games. Come Gen 3, they can both use the Chlorophyll + Sunnybeam combo to ravage teams and Growth gets much better post-Gen 5 due to it now boosting both offenses - forgot if Oddish gets it, but Bellsprout does.
 
I can't defend/explain GF's odd penchant for leaving important trainers' Pokémon with only three moves (sudden thought: a way to regulate the AI's move selection perhaps?), but the lack of a Fairy move on Mimikyu is at least partially due to Fairy having one non-signature physical move (and one that may be a bit too overbearing at the point you fight Allister, especially with its Disguise). The only options it has for any Fairy attacks are Play Rough, Draining Kiss, and Dazzling Gleam (having it use its weaker offensive stat probably would have been okay but oh well).
I’m not saying it had to be Play Rough, it could be any other damaging Fairy type move and that it would have been better than having 0.
 
kinda ugly tho :/
I've always beem impartial to the whole "3d models ruined typhlosion" because, while yeah it does look bad without the fire and it was a dumb decision to take it off, it does make me question on how good of a design it is when it only has fire to make it look cool.

Sure, every pokemon with fire on it would look worse without their fire ignited, but quite a few would still look pretty decent. Some would even still remain pretty good (thinking stuff like infernape). Typhlosion looks awful, and it makes me think it really is just a dumb badger whos only appeal is that its on fire
Also "the Cyndaquil line is not always on fire" was established way back when in the anime.
 
I’m not saying it had to be Play Rough, it could be any other damaging Fairy type move and that it would have been better than having 0.
You see, it was the best decision to have no fairy move, because of the kids who play. I've already said this before, because a kid with his dark type Obstagoon is gonna get a curveball thrown at him, when the pure ghosty guy hits him with something super effective called fairy? It's a fairly early on gym, and little Timmy who doesn't know anything is going to get obliterated if those movesets where different. I know a good percentage are over 18, but pokemon is trying to appeal to kids currently. Perhaps if it was a later gym, they would have a fairy move, but Pokemon wants little Timmy to have a mild adventure for his first time, even though it might be annoying to us. The flaw, is that they think that everyone is a newbie, and not veterans like us, so they only add stuff for newbies, never catering to the say like 70% of the people who buy their games who already played one before. It seems good at first, but is really flawed.

Tl;DR: They try to cater to younger and newer audiences, but they ignore everyone else's experience to do that.

kinda ugly tho :/
I've always beem impartial to the whole "3d models ruined typhlosion" because, while yeah it does look bad without the fire and it was a dumb decision to take it off, it does make me question on how good of a design it is when it only has fire to make it look cool.

Sure, every pokemon with fire on it would look worse without their fire ignited, but quite a few would still look pretty decent. Some would even still remain pretty good (thinking stuff like infernape). Typhlosion looks awful, and it makes me think it really is just a dumb badger whos only appeal is that its on fire

Couldn't agree more, but for the wrong reasons. Typhlosion has nothing going on. The only thing unique about the guy is his fire, which is underwhelming. Look at half of his body, just nothing there! He has a lot of negative space, and at least with Zard, he had a few wings, and some little juts. Typhlosion? NOTHING. Just a tiny pint of fire and NOTHIGN ELSE. there's only black, rubbery skin. Nothing going on. That's why I hate these earlier designs, because they weren't adventureous or cool at all really. Just a few colors, some fire, and a mouth and eyes. It has no substance, otehr some some crappy fire. The monke has some cool armor, some cool eye markings, and a bit of fire. Typhlosion? NOTHING.

Edit: Sorry, large amounts of negative space in a pokemon kinda drives me insane.
 
Typhlosion honestly works better when it's on all fours instead of standing up. Perhaps one of the most underrated aspects of it (and one Game Freak does not portray enough of) is that it's the only Fire starter so far that has been functionally capable of moving on all fours (and for the most part, it's a quadruped, not a biped). Like this:

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It looks neater in action because that backside not only has the firepads but it looks like it's wearing a cape, which is pretty cool.

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Another showcase example of Typhlosion on all fours and in action, it looks pretty decent when it's not standing up.

Honestly I would much prefer if the 3D model made Typhlosion pose on all fours (like Quilava does) and looks more battle aggressive because its design works much better in a quadruped pose than a biped one. Its design is a bit basic but it's also a very expressive Pokemon especially in battle and it can change from looking friendly to looking like it's battle-ready and raging which is where its strength lies, especially in terms of pose and facial expression.

Also, it has the absolute most GOATed cry of all Gen 1-2 Pokemon ever, I mean this is absolutely godly:


Overall though Typhlosion should've really had its model have it post in a quadruped, battle ready stance because while its design is a bit basic, it's a very expressive Pokemon and it looks way cooler when it's on all fours and in a battle stance with its fire on. Expression and personality is really where Typhlosion shines, and they should delve more into that. Quilava and Cyndaquil on the other hand still have some of my favorite designs though: Cyndaquil is ADORABLE and I love it so much, Quilava's expression looks quiet, yet cool and confident and it's pretty cool on that merit alone.

But yeah, the Johto starters as a whole had rather simplistic designs as a whole which is why they tend to get shafted quite a bit, that is in addition to their battle capabilities being rather basic for their types collectively speaking. They definitely don't stand out that much compared to the other starters which is kind of unfortunate.
 
I dont think that simple = bad, a design can be simple but highly effective. I like incineroar, which is by all means a pretty simple design. A stylized anthro tiger with a fire belt, seems pretty basic. But what really shines is both the personality and how they used the simplicity for their favor

The stripes immitating a 4 pack, the fire belt that gives a nice touch to the heel aesthetic, the mask-like markings on the face, and the taunting personality, down to the idle animation, are all part of what makes incineroar a really good design for me (its also why I tend to dislike when people redesign it just to make it quadrupedal. You're making it lose the whole charm! The design does not work as well when incin is Just A Tiger).

I feel like typhlosion just needed a more interessing concept. Focus more on the volcano part, make the fire actually volcano-like, or give it something that ties to the traditional japanese aesthetic of johto. Fireworks maybe? An explosive and cool show would fit typhlosion really well. But it doesn't have anything, it trully is just a badger on fire.
I do agree that, if it had a bit more personality, it'd be better though. I feel like of all fire starters to put on four legs, typhlosion really should have been the one. give it an explosive personality to match the explosive fire it has or something lol
 
What I find weird about Typhlosion might be the proportions, as Quilava is basically the same thing but smaller, but doesn't look nearly as underwhelming.
 
Typhlosion honestly works better when it's on all fours instead of standing up. Perhaps one of the most underrated aspects of it (and one Game Freak does not portray enough of) is that it's the only Fire starter so far that has been functionally capable of moving on all fours (and for the most part, it's a quadruped, not a biped). Like this:

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It looks neater in action because that backside not only has the firepads but it looks like it's wearing a cape, which is pretty cool.

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Another showcase example of Typhlosion on all fours and in action, it looks pretty decent when it's not standing up.

Honestly I would much prefer if the 3D model made Typhlosion pose on all fours (like Quilava does) and looks more battle aggressive because its design works much better in a quadruped pose than a biped one. Its design is a bit basic but it's also a very expressive Pokemon especially in battle and it can change from looking friendly to looking like it's battle-ready and raging which is where its strength lies, especially in terms of pose and facial expression.

Also, it has the absolute most GOATed cry of all Gen 1-2 Pokemon ever, I mean this is absolutely godly:


Overall though Typhlosion should've really had its model have it post in a quadruped, battle ready stance because while its design is a bit basic, it's a very expressive Pokemon and it looks way cooler when it's on all fours and in a battle stance with its fire on. Expression and personality is really where Typhlosion shines, and they should delve more into that. Quilava and Cyndaquil on the other hand still have some of my favorite designs though: Cyndaquil is ADORABLE and I love it so much, Quilava's expression looks quiet, yet cool and confident and it's pretty cool on that merit alone.

But yeah, the Johto starters as a whole had rather simplistic designs as a whole which is why they tend to get shafted quite a bit, that is in addition to their battle capabilities being rather basic for their types collectively speaking. They definitely don't stand out that much compared to the other starters which is kind of unfortunate.
He goes on all fours when charging in Stadium and MD. Inversely, Colo has Linoone stand up
Makes you realize both are based on weasels/badgers
 
Another reason why I find Typhlosion very lackluster is the design. Looking at all the starters and how the 3rd form differentiates from the previous ones, the shift from Quilava to Typhlosion is very minimal, which is very disappointing. Charmeleon grows to a winged draconian monster, Bayleef becomes the green flowered dinosaur that is Meganium, Croconaw becomes the more ferocious looking Feraligatr, but this is just bigger Quilava.

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Another reason why I find Typhlosion very lackluster is the design. Looking at all the starters and how the 3rd form differentiates from the previous ones, the shift from Quilava to Typhlosion is very minimal, which is very disappointing. Charmeleon grows to a winged draconian monster, Bayleef becomes the green flowered dinosaur that is Meganium, Croconaw becomes the more ferocious looking Feraligatr, but this is just bigger Quilava.

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Incineroar S tier... I see youre a person of culture
 
It's a fairly early on gym, and little Timmy who doesn't know anything is going to get obliterated if those movesets where different. (...). Perhaps if it was a later gym, they would have a fairy move, but Pokemon wants little Timmy to have a mild adventure for his first time, even though it might be annoying to us.

... I'm sorry if I sound rude, but that's the dumbest argument I've heard!
Like, okay, they don't want it to be too hard so it doesn't have a Fairy move (also because the only Physical Fairy move it learns is Play Rough which is at level 54... even though it knows Slash but it learns that level 36... and if you're going to do that could give it Draining Kiss...). Fine, I can get that (though maybe in that case don't give Allister a Mimikyu, give him a Polteageist or Duskull instead), but you're saying their intent was to give a "mild adventure". Little Timmy didn't get the game to have a mild adventure, he wants action-packed battles! Heck, Mimikyu sort of works against that as, if Little Timmy's attention span is as good as a Goldfish, he'd get bored when his Pokemon doesn't 1HKO Mimikyu because he first has got to break its disguise.

Also, I find the argument that it would make Allister too tough funny considering Allister's ace is Gengar which is notoriously strong and if you're not prepared for it can likely sweep your team (it also comes with Hypnosis). Also his Cursola has Curse which is a pretty nasty thing to pull on a kid if their intent was to make it easy for them.

But you know what, that's alright, because what's the biggest penalty they'll get if they lose? Just some money, I doubt a little kid would be doing a nuzlocke, so honestly I don't think it's a big deal if you throw a few curveballs at kids. The kid may get sad/upset/angry/annoyed, but here's the thing about that: they'll not want to feel that way again so will go in prepared next time. Because they can retry as many times as they want. And if they can't get through with strategy eventually they're Pokemon will get to a level they can power on through (if they focus on doing raids they'll have tons of experience candies in no time to level up fast). "But what if the kid gives up"? Then they give up, but if a kid has gotten all the way to Allister I think that this point they feel invested in the game (and with the Pokemon they had trained) that I think the majority of kids will stick things through.

Seriously, where did this idea that kids have such a short attention span they'll drop the game if it presents them a little challenge come from? Is there some research that shows this is the case? This feels more like a stereotype thing than something which actually happens, I can only imagine the most inattentive kid just giving up something if it gives them even a small bit of challenge (and if that's the case I don't think they would have played the game long enough to get to Allister because they would probably not be able to sit through the story cutscenes). I've come to talk any excuse GF comes up with a grain of salt, because they either have lied or done things contradictory to excuses they've made it sounds like they made it up on the spot to get around the real reason which would put them in a negative light (aka they're lazy, interests are misplaced, and/or recently have been rushed to push out games when they need a few more years to make it more fully developed).

Incineroar S tier... I see youre a person of culture

BUT Charizard was put in B tier, thus any credibility goes out the window right there (it's at least S, maybe even it's own "Charizard Tier").
 
... I'm sorry if I sound rude, but that's the dumbest argument I've heard!
Like, okay, they don't want it to be too hard so it doesn't have a Fairy move (also because the only Physical Fairy move it learns is Play Rough which is at level 54... even though it knows Slash but it learns that level 36... and if you're going to do that could give it Draining Kiss...). Fine, I can get that (though maybe in that case don't give Allister a Mimikyu, give him a Polteageist or Duskull instead), but you're saying their intent was to give a "mild adventure". Little Timmy didn't get the game to have a mild adventure, he wants action-packed battles! Heck, Mimikyu sort of works against that as, if Little Timmy's attention span is as good as a Goldfish, he'd get bored when his Pokemon doesn't 1HKO Mimikyu because he first has got to break its disguise.

Also, I find the argument that it would make Allister too tough funny considering Allister's ace is Gengar which is notoriously strong and if you're not prepared for it can likely sweep your team (it also comes with Hypnosis). Also his Cursola has Curse which is a pretty nasty thing to pull on a kid if their intent was to make it easy for them.

But you know what, that's alright, because what's the biggest penalty they'll get if they lose? Just some money, I doubt a little kid would be doing a nuzlocke, so honestly I don't think it's a big deal if you throw a few curveballs at kids. The kid may get sad/upset/angry/annoyed, but here's the thing about that: they'll not want to feel that way again so will go in prepared next time. Because they can retry as many times as they want. And if they can't get through with strategy eventually they're Pokemon will get to a level they can power on through (if they focus on doing raids they'll have tons of experience candies in no time to level up fast). "But what if the kid gives up"? Then they give up, but if a kid has gotten all the way to Allister I think that this point they feel invested in the game (and with the Pokemon they had trained) that I think the majority of kids will stick things through.

Seriously, where did this idea that kids have such a short attention span they'll drop the game if it presents them a little challenge come from? Is there some research that shows this is the case? This feels more like a stereotype thing than something which actually happens, I can only imagine the most inattentive kid just giving up something if it gives them even a small bit of challenge (and if that's the case I don't think they would have played the game long enough to get to Allister because they would probably not be able to sit through the story cutscenes). I've come to talk any excuse GF comes up with a grain of salt, because they either have lied or done things contradictory to excuses they've made it sounds like they made it up on the spot to get around the real reason which would put them in a negative light (aka they're lazy, interests are misplaced, and/or recently have been rushed to push out games when they need a few more years to make it more fully developed).



BUT Charizard was put in B tier, thus any credibility goes out the window right there (it's at least S, maybe even it's own "Charizard Tier").

It gets worse.

Lil' Timmy will pull up against that Mimikyu with a Goon... And not hit it super-effectively.

So there's a grand total of nothing holding that argument up. :mehowth:
 
Serebii said:
The Pokémon Company have announced a new ban wave is coming to Pokémon Sword & Shield and Pokémon HOME. In their notice, they make mention of how some players are using altered data and others are causing issues impairing the function of games or apps for others. Due to this, a new ban wave is to start for players who have been modifying their save data
Players hit by these bans will be restricted from online play in Sword & Shield, can't use trading features or can no longer use Pokémon HOME. This follows on from the agreement in the Terms of Service prohibiting save modification. TPC says that bans can be temporary or permanent and no refunds will be issued.
These measures will also be taken regularly in the future and more measures imposed if necessary.

Should this be concerning?:blobthinking:
 
Yes, especially with people defending anti-cheat in a mostly offline game. This is especially true with Switch still insisting to have inferior online to consoles and PC, even as someone who does not care about fidelity or specs.
 
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I found this cool post analyzing Marnie's character. I figured it belongs here because it brings a perspective people scarcely talk about, with most dismissing her as overrated, underwritten and only liked by pedophiles. Neat read, give it a whirl

It's not that there isn't hidden depths you can't infer about Marnie, it's just that she's very underutilized despite the game shining a spotlight on her the few moments she does appear in the game. She reminds me of Plumaria from SM in that regard, a lot of baggage she's carrying around but we're not allowed to see her unpack it. Though at least with Marnie we got to see the sort of ending & result of her character development, though we've missed out on a lot of the inbetween moments to feel really satisfying.

Now the reason for this I think is because she had to share the spotlight with not only 2 other rivals (Hau & Bede), but also because she had to share it with Team Yell. Moreso I think with the latter as GF seemed to decide when there was a Marnie/Team Yell encounter they either needed to do one or the other... where I think they could have easily had more moments where when Team Yell starts causing a ruckus she could appear to both chastise them and had some character moments also. And just in general the game could have maybe had Marnie, Bede, Hau, and other Gym Trainers seen hanging around routes & in town/the city (and a few times in the stadium) where you could get some additional moments of them you have to seek out that fills in the gaps of their character not necessary to know their story but help flesh them out. It'll also actually have made the world fill more "lived in" as the only time you see the other trainers taking the Champion Cup is inside the Stadiums where they're just hanging out in the main lobby.
 
... I'm sorry if I sound rude, but that's the dumbest argument I've heard!
Like, okay, they don't want it to be too hard so it doesn't have a Fairy move (also because the only Physical Fairy move it learns is Play Rough which is at level 54... even though it knows Slash but it learns that level 36... and if you're going to do that could give it Draining Kiss...). Fine, I can get that (though maybe in that case don't give Allister a Mimikyu, give him a Polteageist or Duskull instead), but you're saying their intent was to give a "mild adventure". Little Timmy didn't get the game to have a mild adventure, he wants action-packed battles! Heck, Mimikyu sort of works against that as, if Little Timmy's attention span is as good as a Goldfish, he'd get bored when his Pokemon doesn't 1HKO Mimikyu because he first has got to break its disguise.

Also, I find the argument that it would make Allister too tough funny considering Allister's ace is Gengar which is notoriously strong and if you're not prepared for it can likely sweep your team (it also comes with Hypnosis). Also his Cursola has Curse which is a pretty nasty thing to pull on a kid if their intent was to make it easy for them.

But you know what, that's alright, because what's the biggest penalty they'll get if they lose? Just some money, I doubt a little kid would be doing a nuzlocke, so honestly I don't think it's a big deal if you throw a few curveballs at kids. The kid may get sad/upset/angry/annoyed, but here's the thing about that: they'll not want to feel that way again so will go in prepared next time. Because they can retry as many times as they want. And if they can't get through with strategy eventually they're Pokemon will get to a level they can power on through (if they focus on doing raids they'll have tons of experience candies in no time to level up fast). "But what if the kid gives up"? Then they give up, but if a kid has gotten all the way to Allister I think that this point they feel invested in the game (and with the Pokemon they had trained) that I think the majority of kids will stick things through.

Seriously, where did this idea that kids have such a short attention span they'll drop the game if it presents them a little challenge come from? Is there some research that shows this is the case? This feels more like a stereotype thing than something which actually happens, I can only imagine the most inattentive kid just giving up something if it gives them even a small bit of challenge (and if that's the case I don't think they would have played the game long enough to get to Allister because they would probably not be able to sit through the story cutscenes). I've come to talk any excuse GF comes up with a grain of salt, because they either have lied or done things contradictory to excuses they've made it sounds like they made it up on the spot to get around the real reason which would put them in a negative light (aka they're lazy, interests are misplaced, and/or recently have been rushed to push out games when they need a few more years to make it more fully developed).
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Whole defense debunked, but I have 1 more illegitimate reason left. I guess they were lazy and forgot to put it in, or thought that the stab would be too strong. Which it is not. Maybe they wanted to have mimiku but keep that like "one type one sweep" system? I have no idea what im talking about!

But, But...!

Her ace, gengy from overwatch, Can be one shot murdered by a obstagoon, which almost every new player has, or one of the many OTHER ghost and dark types LITTLE TIMMY can get before her. All they need is a dynamax, and dynamax they (will probably) have. But, even if he did get a few moves off, he would not be able to completely kill it, because of the high level gap,... Wait I was supposed to defend Gf... AHHHHHHHHHHHH!

You will hate it, but ultra Sun and Moon are great games. Before you start screeching, lemme explain. This game IS pretty easy, but it pushed the 3Ds to its limits on graphics, and had some genuinely good cutscenes, even if they appear every 10 seconds. Also, mixing up gyms was a risk, but kahunas were GREAT. They shook it up, and allowed much different challenges in the trials before the kahuna, like the mimikyu one. Also, totem battles were genuinely hard, but fun. you can mock me, but they hit the designs, and the map. Even though progression is a full circle, it has literal gen 3 places. Like route 123, in Hoenn. ( I think, uhh, forest one) Like take Poin breaker coast: Greta waves smash against the roughened rock, sculpted form ancient volcanos. The springs bubble up, creating beautiful geysers. More reasons, but I'll cover them when Pikachu makes a new diss track.
 
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