SPOILERS! Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl Data Dumps

I always thought that title belonged to Cynthia anyway...but she's about to take that title once and for all. YacheChomp with Swords Dance, Nasty Plot Luke with Wise Glasses, the crazy shit her Milotic has going for it...eventually a Serene Grace Togekiss lmao. Red with his Brine Lapras has nothing on this.

Yeah but a lot of people keep yapping it's Red. Not necessarily on smogon and it's mostly on other platforms like fb for example
 
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ILCA how did you make a Power Whip Mr. Mime with 0 IVs in Attack to boot? I want to unsee it.
 
In both cases, you can nonetheless tell that the peeps at ILCA who designed the boss fights were clearly having the utmost fun with it.

A large portion of the work that went into this game clearly went into making the boss fights difficult, and at the very least incredibly fun with many well designed movesets, EVs, and items, as well as a few jokes and memes here and there which they clearly put in for the lulz and for some comedic value, which will also be funny in and of itself when we see them in action.

This is gonna be incredibly fun to play. This is an impressive post-game, to say the least. Some absolutely GOATed Trainer battles that are fairly repeatable, sign me up! Not to mention the expanded Underground and Super Contests being better than ever, this will be a fun time.
 
I think that's just because most of the time you end up 10-20 levels below him

Exactly. Red was never a difficult challenge. He was just a massive pain in the ass because his mons are high level. In all honesty, he was never really difficult. Just pure and utter time consuming. All pokemon games are except maybe for bdsp if all these info are true
 
I always thought that title belonged to Cynthia anyway...but she's about to take that title once and for all.
Pokémon games so bad lately that a hard mode in boss fight rematches is what saves a game for some people

Absolute worst case scenario. All I wanted from this game was to teach Carnivine Snap Trap and watch Cynthia apologists break down in tears.

0/10. The simps feel validated, and that bothers me.
 
I think that's just because most of the time you end up 10-20 levels below him
You see, Red is different from most trainers in that he completely skyrockets the level curve to an unprecedented level. Combine that with the relatively meh pace of HGSS? You’re going to be there a LONG, LONG, time if you wanna catch up to him.

So that’s it, really. Red’s levels, and by default his difficulty are all results of an absolutely bonkers jump in level compared to like, Blue or somethin.
 
Absolute worst case scenario. All I wanted from this game was to teach Carnivine Snap Trap and watch Cynthia apologists break down in tears.

0/10. The simps feel validated, and that bothers me.

Nah fam, objectively that title is hers. Cite me a better constructed NPC team than this one right here:

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PressureSitrus BerryShadow Ball / Dark Pulse / Will-O-Wisp / Sucker Punch
Porygon-Z85
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AdaptabilityExpert BeltHyper Beam / Shadow Ball / Ice Beam / Thunderbolt
Togekiss86
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Serene GraceLeftoversAir Slash / Dazzling Gleam / Aura Sphere / Thunder Wave
Lucario86
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Inner FocusFocus SashClose Combat / Meteor Mash / Earthquake / Extreme Speed
Milotic84
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Marvel ScaleFlame OrbRecover / Mirror Coat / Ice Beam / Scald
Garchomp88
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Rough SkinYache BerryDragon Claw / Earthquake / Swords Dance / Poison Jab


Go ahead, I'll wait.
 
On one hand, -_- On the other hand, I'm not joking when I say I almost lost to Joey in Soul Silver.

I'm also not joking when I say I full heartily think some kids are going to get their souls crushed by the Final Garchomp, even with a Level 100 Team. If anyone wants to make it even better/worse, try going through the entire Elite Four without healing between battles. 30 Pokemon, Zero mercy. I know I'll try that if I get Brilliant Diamond and I hope to remember to keep a death counter.
 
We're all rightfully shitting ourselves at the rematch teams among others, but I just want to praise something of an "underrated gem" that's gotten buried in the crossfire: Saturn!

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They took one of the lamest boss teams and managed to renovate it into a delightfully memey Rain stall battle of all things while keeping to the DP team composition.
 
We're all rightfully shitting ourselves at the rematch teams among others, but I just want to praise something of an "underrated gem" that's gotten buried in the crossfire: Saturn!

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They took one of the lamest boss teams and managed to renovate it into a delightfully memey Rain stall battle of all things while keeping to the DP team composition.
You can't convince me that this game isn't an elaborate shitpost.
 
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