Anyway, the website says that while Voltorb is super cheerful (I love this jolly friend so much) it's not very popular in-universe due to its tendency to explode when it gets excited. As a result, people will plug its seed hole (that can't be healthy) and exile it. I wonder if that's the reason why modern Voltorb is pissed all the time and also not a Grass-type.
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Anyway, the website says that while Voltorb is super cheerful (I love this jolly friend so much) it's not very popular in-universe due to its tendency to explode when it gets excited. As a result, people will plug its seed hole (that can't be healthy) and exile it. I wonder if that's the reason why modern Voltorb is pissed all the time and also not a Grass-type.
Riddler gave that one as a freebie via Twitter to make people stop asking him for answers.
Well... not exactly. As stated, the metal slug riddle is the only one where he's committed to a specific interpretation. There's a considerable possibility he's trolling us, but if that one concept is confirmed then I'd say that's our proof he's legitimate. Let's look at all the others.
Regional starters are on everyone's wishlist, so no prizes for predicting that. Arezu is already confirmed to be warden to a special lady, so that hint is nothing new. The rock-climbing creature in the pre-release shots has long been speculated to be related somehow to Sneasel. All of these can be gleaned by reading into information (or non-information) that is already available and well-circulated.
Beyond that, we're seemingly promised something prickly and something bear-like. Those two are very open-ended. Only the Habakkuk, the contrail hearts, and the slug ring are narrow in any sense. Mark my words. These are the three to watch out for. The Riddler's game is promising so far, but there's really no validating him until we get something exact like a metal-plated slug or a heart thing that flies.
If anything, this implies Voltorb was an apricorn that gained sentience and continuously refined its mimicry as Poké Balls became sleeker and more abundant. Hence people unfamiliar with the ancient stock speculate that Voltorb is some synthetic thing born in a factory.
I'm full on expecting Electrode to turn the eyebrows into a stache
It's a bit out there but yall can see it, right?
It's a bit out there but yall can see it, right?
Yeah I see it perfectly
It's going to become an old man:
-bald head (or one of those small hats
-mustache
-the eyes become "browed" but in like an old man way instead of a grumpy way.
I can hear the toadsworth "hourf hourf hourf"
Interestingly, I've seen another theory floating around suggesting that Shuppet is a result of Rotom inhabiting a Reaper Cloth. Not confident on rotom being the source for Voltorb-H, though. Voltorb doesn't have the spike on top like every other rotom-affiliated thing (and shuppet) does.
Thankfully we didn't need these. :)
Almost as importantly as Voltorb still being electric-type, we thankfully got another regional variant that doesn't have unnecessary facial h--
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...Hisuian Electrode is gonna have a big ol' moustache, isn't it.
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Damnit, I started this and put off finishing the post to eat dinner, only to come back and hit 'see new replies' to see I was beaten to this joke! Eh, not deleting it. :P
New Legends Arceus footage starts at 6:25. Anything interesting that can be gleamed from it?
We gain exp from captures
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well, not that that's surprising, considering we've been doing that for quite a while now., But I don't think we'd seen it before
Was discussing Hisuian Voltorb in the Pet Mods discord with some friends, and we came to the conclusion that the way you find Voltorb might actually be tied to the crafting pokéballs mechanic! Pokéballs are a new thing to the Hisui region as we know they're being brought in by the Galaxy Expedition Team, so there wouldn't really be anywhere in the region where it'd make sense to have Voltorb naturally be found. Since Pokéballs are a recent addition to the region as well, I don't think it would make sense to have your usual overworld pokéballs as item loots, so it can't be a mimic either.
If this theory is true, I'm going to be rather happy at how they essentially made a new variant to fit a new game mechanic
If this theory is true, I'm going to be rather happy at how they essentially made a new variant to fit a new game mechanic
To add onto this: If you look at the trailer again carefully you'll realize Voltorb is ONLY ever depicted under the possession of a trainer or with close-up shots. Growlithe and Zorua were both actually decisively shown as wild encounters
Welp, I was wrong. At 6:40, when the PC catches a Bidoof in the overworld, it's explicitly the first one she's ever captured, and she does it without a battle. That said, looking at things, it almost seems like wild battles are only a thing if you really screw up, which is an interesting position for pokemon games to take. It kind of makes the normal game protags look like idiots for stepping on a Zubat every 3 feet.
If they didn't update SwSh to include all the Pokemon that BDSP brought then they're not going to update it to bring over any Pokemon introduced in Legends. Gen 9 it is. Infact I wouldn't be surprised if they pop-up in GO first.
Why Fairy? There is actually a possible way for them to expand via the Therian Formes. One theory is that the Therian Formes are slightly based on the Chinese Four Symbols: Black Tortoise, Azure Dragon, Vermillion Bird, & White Tiger. Now, the colors don't match, but Thundurus becomes a dragon, Tornadus becomes a bird, and Landorus becomes a tiger. Now some who REALLY push the theory says that Thundurus represents both the dragon & tortoise, though being they're just loosely based on them I don't think it's necessary to have the full set. YET, it is one place for them to expand if they do. But I would make it Water-type to go along with the general theme of the others.
- If not, how do we simulate Multitype in a world with no abilities? Could the plates act like Oricorio's nectars in this instance?
- How will the base power of Judgment reflect the presence of a new forme-changing mechanic or absence thereof? Will it remain 100 for continuity with prior games? Will it see a buff to 120 because it is so tied up in Multitype and the plates?
- On that note, will Judgment be learned before Lv. 100 in this game? Will Arceus even have a learnset, or will it be purely a boss monster?
1. Just having the Plate directly change Arceus' Type like Oricorio's Nectar would be the easiest path to go.
2. I think it would remain 100. It'll likely also change Type to always match Arceus. With other Pokemon not having hold items or Abilities, no reason to give it a Power increase because it won't be at a disadvantage as 100 is already pretty high.
3. Big shrug there. All I'll say is it'll probably be part of the story and see some action, and if it's going to do that it would of course like to show off its Signature Move, and if it's going to be able to battle in the game might as well give the player a chance to catch & use it. Thus I will say Arceus will be catchable and, at no matter what Level, will have Judgement cause rule of cool.
Well we know each Pokemon has a series of tasks you need to complete with each one, some involving catching multiples of them. Would be nice if, as you progress with the tasks, it gives you catch bonus benefits on that Pokemon so it makes them easier to catch when passing-by.
Wouldn't surprise me if they have the Arc Phone have a
So obviously a Voltorb before the modern Poke Ball was invented is going to be based on an Apricorn Pokeball, hence Electric/Grass.
Would also make a bit more sense for it to be Slugma.
Or, you know, since this is the Pokemon world where chemical reactions in garbage bags and sun rays on icicles can make them come to life without being possessed by a spirit, maybe it's not so odd that a Pokemon that seemingly imitates being a Poke Ball is its own creature.
Hm, maybe because H-Voltorb has the hole in the head letting it more easily discharge is why it has a happier disposition than normal Voltorb who can only release its electricity via big discharges/explosions (hence its tense all the time).
I would be interested to know how H-Voltorb feels about the hole being plugged. If it gets angry and likely to explode in an attempt to free up its hole, sounds like it would make for a dangerous improvised weapon to just drop a batch onto an enemy village. Plug up the holes, throw them over enemy walls, they initially explode, and as a bonus they stay around and make themselves a nuisance.
Well the site seems to indicate there are wild ones with them wondering into villages and people having to toss them out via plugging their holes. Now they could be an invasive species, though I wouldn't be surprised if you could encounter one via knocking down Apricorn from trees and, oops, one of them was actually a H-Voltorb.
To elaborate, I don't think Aquatic and Dramps mean you literally make Hisuian Voltorb by crafting, but that they might spawn nearby after you make Poké Balls instead of having a fixed, natural habitat in the wild! It's just like this old entry of Voltorb's:
Voltorb are known to appear on their own, for reasons no one can explain, when people make Poké Balls - in Legends, you're the one making Poké Balls yourself, so they saw the potential to put you in the shoes this entry describes and tie a variant into a brand-new mechanic.
These aren't some kind of "natural descendant" of Voltorb - they are the kind of Voltorb that spawns unbidden (who knows why? what a mystery!) when you craft Poké Balls the way people do in the time period of Legends, just like Kantonian Voltorb is the kind of Voltorb that spawns unbidden when modern factories craft modern Poké Balls the way people do in modern times, and each form is exactly as unnatural and inexplicable as the other.
The Hisuian thing here is not Apricorns, these Voltorb clearly do not grow on trees, and their mechanical role in the game is not to be an item ball mimic - the Hisuian thing is the change in the development of Poké Balls (from a design perspective, in the kinds of Poké Balls that are made; from a gameplay perspective, in the way you, the player, acquire new Poké Balls), and Hisuian Voltorb's mechanical role in the game is probably being a Pokémon you get by using that new feature, designed to give the full "Poké Ball manufacturer experience (TM)" in what's honestly a really cool and unexpected way!
This is also probably why they have the size difference mechanic, incidentally!
Because crafting Poké Balls is a mechanic you use all the time and there's exactly one (1) Pokémon that makes any sense to spawn from it, they wanted to give a reason to be excited about catching more than one Voltorb, so they made a cute collectible out of it to spice up each encounter and make sure it wasn't just a one-and-done gimmick that became a nuisance afterwards.
I would in no way be surprised if these turned out to be the only Pokémon in the game with size variations like that (think Pumpkaboo, not a game-wide feature), but even if not, it's clearly deliberate that this is the one that was shown off as the face of it and the first we've seen of it! Either way, these forms play so neatly with the gameplay purpose Voltorb fills here and I think that's really cool of it C:
When it was first leaked that we'd be getting a Hisuian Voltorb, especially when it was increasingly suggested that it would be Grass-type, I honestly had really low hopes for it, because I thought it would just be a shallow copycat of Voltorb's mimic idea forced into Apricorns purely because Voltorb was already Poké Ball-shaped - that, and/or a weird, retconned backstory connecting it to Apricorns that didn't mesh with the way it's is presented in the present.
I could not have been less interested in it based on my expectations at the time - if they were making a mimic Pokémon, I would have wanted it to be something more novel and specific to the way you get Apricorns. (My personal take was a Hisuian Pineco that uses Apricorns as shells, linking to the fact that we get Apricorns by knocking them out of trees like Headbutt and that they're known for exploding - perhaps evolving into a Forretress that adds wood like Pineco uses tree bark, since Forretress already has about the right shape and palette to be easy to give a Poké Ball-esque appearance and comes with abundant potential for the same sort of "explosives from a hole on the top" we see Hisuian Voltorb playing with. I am still attached to this and I still think it's a great idea)
If that were the territory Voltorb were setting out to cover, and if the only reason Voltorb was chosen for the part was because it was already a ball mimic and it was the "obvious" thing to tweak for the part, and if all of the thought that went into it was "hey it's the Poké Ball Pokémon! Poké Balls have a 'Hisuian form' - so should it!" I would have been incredibly underwhelmed; my friends on Pet Mods and I have been collectively grumbling for ages how little sense the idea of Hisuian Voltorb made and how unnecessary it sounded as an addition.
But!!! as it turns out!!! that's not what Hisuian Voltorb is trying to be, and what we got is so much better than any of us had guessed - it's actually a perfect take on a Pokémon tied meaningfully to a Legends-specific game mechanic, rooted squarely in Legends-specific worldbuilding, in a way that only a variant of Voltorb could be (what other Pokémon could possibly spawn as a direct consequence of crafting a Poké Ball??), and that's exactly what I think a regional variant should be!
Also, it is unbelievably charming and full of personality and the toy vibes are PERFECT
Hisuian Voltorb is my child (maybe literally? we might be responsible for bringing them into existence all by ourselves) and I adore it
I cannot get over the fact that this absolutely bonkers team of designers took an idea I thought was all but inherently a waste of potential and would never be interesting
and said no, look here, we're making another 10/10 variant instead, and you cannot stop us
The Pokémon designers working on this game have literally no chill and I am here for it
As an aside, I love that every Pokémon and its type combination has been pretty reliably leaked by this point, and yet what we have is such a surface-level understanding of each of them - in a game that constantly insists on proving just how much thought goes into every one of its Pokémon - that we still basically have no idea what to expect at all, and each and every one of them could be a beautiful little surprise like this no matter how much we think we have its number
Voltorb was first sighted at a company that manufactures Poké Balls. The link between that sighting and the fact that this Pokémon looks very similar to a Poké Ball remains a mystery.
Voltorb are known to appear on their own, for reasons no one can explain, when people make Poké Balls - in Legends, you're the one making Poké Balls yourself, so they saw the potential to put you in the shoes this entry describes and tie a variant into a brand-new mechanic.
These aren't some kind of "natural descendant" of Voltorb - they are the kind of Voltorb that spawns unbidden (who knows why? what a mystery!) when you craft Poké Balls the way people do in the time period of Legends, just like Kantonian Voltorb is the kind of Voltorb that spawns unbidden when modern factories craft modern Poké Balls the way people do in modern times, and each form is exactly as unnatural and inexplicable as the other.
The Hisuian thing here is not Apricorns, these Voltorb clearly do not grow on trees, and their mechanical role in the game is not to be an item ball mimic - the Hisuian thing is the change in the development of Poké Balls (from a design perspective, in the kinds of Poké Balls that are made; from a gameplay perspective, in the way you, the player, acquire new Poké Balls), and Hisuian Voltorb's mechanical role in the game is probably being a Pokémon you get by using that new feature, designed to give the full "Poké Ball manufacturer experience (TM)" in what's honestly a really cool and unexpected way!
This is also probably why they have the size difference mechanic, incidentally!
Because crafting Poké Balls is a mechanic you use all the time and there's exactly one (1) Pokémon that makes any sense to spawn from it, they wanted to give a reason to be excited about catching more than one Voltorb, so they made a cute collectible out of it to spice up each encounter and make sure it wasn't just a one-and-done gimmick that became a nuisance afterwards.
I would in no way be surprised if these turned out to be the only Pokémon in the game with size variations like that (think Pumpkaboo, not a game-wide feature), but even if not, it's clearly deliberate that this is the one that was shown off as the face of it and the first we've seen of it! Either way, these forms play so neatly with the gameplay purpose Voltorb fills here and I think that's really cool of it C:
When it was first leaked that we'd be getting a Hisuian Voltorb, especially when it was increasingly suggested that it would be Grass-type, I honestly had really low hopes for it, because I thought it would just be a shallow copycat of Voltorb's mimic idea forced into Apricorns purely because Voltorb was already Poké Ball-shaped - that, and/or a weird, retconned backstory connecting it to Apricorns that didn't mesh with the way it's is presented in the present.
I could not have been less interested in it based on my expectations at the time - if they were making a mimic Pokémon, I would have wanted it to be something more novel and specific to the way you get Apricorns. (My personal take was a Hisuian Pineco that uses Apricorns as shells, linking to the fact that we get Apricorns by knocking them out of trees like Headbutt and that they're known for exploding - perhaps evolving into a Forretress that adds wood like Pineco uses tree bark, since Forretress already has about the right shape and palette to be easy to give a Poké Ball-esque appearance and comes with abundant potential for the same sort of "explosives from a hole on the top" we see Hisuian Voltorb playing with. I am still attached to this and I still think it's a great idea)
If that were the territory Voltorb were setting out to cover, and if the only reason Voltorb was chosen for the part was because it was already a ball mimic and it was the "obvious" thing to tweak for the part, and if all of the thought that went into it was "hey it's the Poké Ball Pokémon! Poké Balls have a 'Hisuian form' - so should it!" I would have been incredibly underwhelmed; my friends on Pet Mods and I have been collectively grumbling for ages how little sense the idea of Hisuian Voltorb made and how unnecessary it sounded as an addition.
But!!! as it turns out!!! that's not what Hisuian Voltorb is trying to be, and what we got is so much better than any of us had guessed - it's actually a perfect take on a Pokémon tied meaningfully to a Legends-specific game mechanic, rooted squarely in Legends-specific worldbuilding, in a way that only a variant of Voltorb could be (what other Pokémon could possibly spawn as a direct consequence of crafting a Poké Ball??), and that's exactly what I think a regional variant should be!
Also, it is unbelievably charming and full of personality and the toy vibes are PERFECT
Hisuian Voltorb is my child (maybe literally? we might be responsible for bringing them into existence all by ourselves) and I adore it
I cannot get over the fact that this absolutely bonkers team of designers took an idea I thought was all but inherently a waste of potential and would never be interesting
and said no, look here, we're making another 10/10 variant instead, and you cannot stop us
The Pokémon designers working on this game have literally no chill and I am here for it
As an aside, I love that every Pokémon and its type combination has been pretty reliably leaked by this point, and yet what we have is such a surface-level understanding of each of them - in a game that constantly insists on proving just how much thought goes into every one of its Pokémon - that we still basically have no idea what to expect at all, and each and every one of them could be a beautiful little surprise like this no matter how much we think we have its number
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Pokeballs are suddenly way scarier now. They were already creepy due to the whole "transform Pokemon into energy that can be stored on a computer and also maybe has some sort of tranquilizing effect that makes the capture process morally dubious" thing, but that the production of them just spontaneously creates life is just... the process of making balls should not involve the creation of souls.
There will be a short animation about H-Voltorb released tomorrow at 6 am Pacific time NA. Probably just something cute, wouldn't get hopes up for H-Electrode :P
I must say, while I really like this design, I find it extremely jarring that they insist on keeping the Game Boy cries for this long. Granted, Voltorb probably should sound a little static, but couldn't it have been a slightly more high-fidelity sound? It's a regional variant, they could afford to be a little less bound to nostalgia.
So if the rumor abour 17 Hisuaian forms + 7 new Pokemon (including 1 Legendary) are true we are still missing 12 Hisuain forms and 4 new Pokemon, how many more do you think we will see before the lunch of the game (not counting potetnial datamines)?
Do you think we will get the starters pre-lunch?
I believe Kalos and Galar starter final evos were hidden until the leaks.
Alola showed almost everything before the game premiere.
Do you think we will get the starters pre-lunch?
I believe Kalos and Galar starter final evos were hidden until the leaks.
Alola showed almost everything before the game premiere.
Unfortunately I think that the starters and the origin forms of Dialga and Palkia are going to be hidden until the game actually releases but everything else is fair game
Well. I mean. They haven't updated yet, because HOME isn't updated for BDSP yet. I'm pretty sure the assumption is that if it happens, it'll be alongside the HOME update for BDSP.
I didn't think Hisuian Voltorb would end up being so cute but here we are. Even if there wasn't a whole lot that could be done design wise with Voltorb they made it super cute with its personality which its eyes really sell, and so does that video, I love it so much. Poor Hisuian Voltorb was so excitable, though it was funny to see Pikachu angry at it for its antics with the berries and seeing Spheal being all sad and the two rolling around.
Also the title of the video is a pun, I didn't think I'd see that coming. A "Berry" pun for very, I suppose.
Also the title of the video is a pun, I didn't think I'd see that coming. A "Berry" pun for very, I suppose.