Project Metagame Workshop (OM Submissions CLOSED)

[Cuddly]

Thanks for clearing that up. (Though the mechanic isn't about swapping attacking stats.)

I've started writing a draft. Is there a place I can copy-paste the "standard OM banlist" from?

EDIT: Cuddly How is Psyshock programmed?

psyshock: {
        num: 473,
        accuracy: 100,
        basePower: 80,
        category: "Special",
        overrideDefensiveStat: 'def',
        name: "Psyshock",
        pp: 10,
        priority: 0,
        flags: {protect: 1, mirror: 1},
        secondary: null,
        target: "normal",
        type: "Psychic",
        contestType: "Beautiful",
    },

Psyshock, Psystrike, and Secret Sword all override which defensive stat is used, using the defense stat regardless of category.
btw you can check Move/Abilities/Items here and the damage calculator has a feature to see what happens when an attacking move has its category swapped.

 

[Dusk Mage Necrozma]

Skill Switch
​

Metagame Premise: Pokemon can use the moveset of any Pokemon they share an ability with.

Movepool inheritance ideas have been submitted here before, but I think this is an interesting take on it. I looked through this thread and I don't believe this has been proposed before, but I might be wrong.

This opens up exciting possibilities for a lot of Pokemon, especially ones with common abilities.

Potential bans and threats:

gets Bolt Beak. Enough said. Luckily, Fisheous Rend inheritors are typically slow and/or lack STAB or high Attack. might still be terrifying with Strong Jaw and a Scarf.

and get Brave Bird from if you can inherit from natdex Pokemon, and Dual Wingbeat from otherwise.

If you can inherit from natdex, restrict taking from , for obvious reasons.

Pressure users can take exclusive moves from the multitude of Pressure legendaries. gets Aeroblast, can spread burns with Sacred Fire, and a few others get valuable coverage.

gets Court Change and Pyro Ball. gets trapping shenanigans with Spirit Shackle.

Water Shuriken! and seem like the best users. If you can inherit from natdex, Water starters like and also get it. Shell Smash Water Shuriken Blastoise is scary.

all get their terrain interaction moves, along with Play Rough for Koko and Bulu. These might be restricts.

Ultra Beasts are fun:
gets Agility, which might help patch up its disappointing Speed. It also gets a multitude of much-needed coverage moves. idk if this will be viable.
gets Iron Head, Power Whip, and U-Turn. Ouch.
gets Volt Switch and Synthesis.
and also get Volt Switch.

The Rotoms expand on their already huge support movepool, getting tools like Rapid Spin, Stealth Rock, and Recover.

can actually utilize Double Iron Bash's insane flinch chance. This is probably a restrict.

and get No Retreat. Seems interesting.

gets Techno Blast, the next best thing to Boomburst. It could also hold a drive for a customized coverage move. Still probably unviable, but it seems interesting.

gets Mew's whole movepool, which is fun.

, , and other Regenerator users get Spore and Leech Seed to wreak even more havoc.

gets Shift Gear, Meteor Mash, and Megahorn. My bias aside, this seems really fun. It also gets Spectral Thief, but lacks the speed to fully utilize it.

Questions for the community:

Should you be allowed to inherit from natdex?

I've assumed you can mix and match inherited moves, but would it be more interesting if you can only inherit from one Pokemon at a time?

On a related note, should you also have to use the same ability as the Pokemon you're inheriting from? i.e. Blaziken would have to use Blaze to get Pyro Ball.

This is my first submission, so any feedback would be welcome.

Edit: I would also like feedback on the name.

 

[Nitro Indigo]

Should you be allowed to inherit from natdex?

All OMs are Sword and Shield-based this gen, so no.

 

[Dusk Mage Necrozma]

All OMs are Sword and Shield-based this gen, so no.

I know that. I thought Inheritance lets you inherit from natdex, but I just checked and you can’t.

 

[Cuddly]

Skill Switch
​

Metagame Premise: Pokemon can use the moveset of any Pokemon they share an ability with.

Movepool inheritance ideas have been submitted here before, but I think this is an interesting take on it. I looked through this thread and I don't believe this has been proposed before, but I might be wrong.

This opens up exciting possibilities for a lot of Pokemon, especially ones with common abilities.

Potential bans and threats:

gets Bolt Beak. Enough said. Luckily, Fisheous Rend inheritors are typically slow and/or lack STAB or high Attack. might still be terrifying with Strong Jaw and a Scarf.

and get Brave Bird from if you can inherit from natdex Pokemon, and Dual Wingbeat from otherwise.

If you can inherit from natdex, restrict taking from , for obvious reasons.

Pressure users can take exclusive moves from the multitude of Pressure legendaries. gets Aeroblast, can spread burns with Sacred Fire, and a few others get valuable coverage.

gets Court Change and Pyro Ball. gets trapping shenanigans with Spirit Shackle.

Water Shuriken! and seem like the best users. If you can inherit from natdex, Water starters like and also get it. Shell Smash Water Shuriken Blastoise is scary.

all get their terrain interaction moves, along with Play Rough for Koko and Bulu. These might be restricts.

Ultra Beasts are fun:
gets Agility, which might help patch up its disappointing Speed. It also gets a multitude of much-needed coverage moves. idk if this will be viable.
gets Iron Head, Power Whip, and U-Turn. Ouch.
gets Volt Switch and Synthesis.
and also get Volt Switch.

The Rotoms expand on their already huge support movepool, getting tools like Rapid Spin, Stealth Rock, and Recover.

can actually utilize Double Iron Bash's insane flinch chance. This is probably a restrict.

and get No Retreat. Seems interesting.

gets Techno Blast, the next best thing to Boomburst. It could also hold a drive for a customized coverage move. Still probably unviable, but it seems interesting.

gets Mew's whole movepool, which is fun.

, , and other Regenerator users get Spore and Leech Seed to wreak even more havoc.

gets Shift Gear, Meteor Mash, and Megahorn. My bias aside, this seems really fun. It also gets Spectral Thief, but lacks the speed to fully utilize it.

Questions for the community:

Should you be allowed to inherit from natdex?

I've assumed you can mix and match inherited moves, but would it be more interesting if you can only inherit from one Pokemon at a time?

On a related note, should you also have to use the same ability as the Pokemon you're inheriting from? i.e. Blaziken would have to use Blaze to get Pyro Ball.

This is my first submission, so any feedback would be welcome.

Edit: I would also like feedback on the name.

So just restricted inheretence?

 

[DrPumpkinz]

So just restricted inheretence?

Nah, since you can mix and match the movepools you receive from, and also don't lose access to your original movepool.

 

[Cratersmash]

Skill Switch
​

Metagame Premise: Pokemon can use the moveset of any Pokemon they share an ability with.

Movepool inheritance ideas have been submitted here before, but I think this is an interesting take on it. I looked through this thread and I don't believe this has been proposed before, but I might be wrong.

This opens up exciting possibilities for a lot of Pokemon, especially ones with common abilities.

Potential bans and threats:

gets Bolt Beak. Enough said. Luckily, Fisheous Rend inheritors are typically slow and/or lack STAB or high Attack. might still be terrifying with Strong Jaw and a Scarf.

and get Brave Bird from if you can inherit from natdex Pokemon, and Dual Wingbeat from otherwise.

If you can inherit from natdex, restrict taking from , for obvious reasons.

Pressure users can take exclusive moves from the multitude of Pressure legendaries. gets Aeroblast, can spread burns with Sacred Fire, and a few others get valuable coverage.

gets Court Change and Pyro Ball. gets trapping shenanigans with Spirit Shackle.

Water Shuriken! and seem like the best users. If you can inherit from natdex, Water starters like and also get it. Shell Smash Water Shuriken Blastoise is scary.

all get their terrain interaction moves, along with Play Rough for Koko and Bulu. These might be restricts.

Ultra Beasts are fun:
gets Agility, which might help patch up its disappointing Speed. It also gets a multitude of much-needed coverage moves. idk if this will be viable.
gets Iron Head, Power Whip, and U-Turn. Ouch.
gets Volt Switch and Synthesis.
and also get Volt Switch.

The Rotoms expand on their already huge support movepool, getting tools like Rapid Spin, Stealth Rock, and Recover.

can actually utilize Double Iron Bash's insane flinch chance. This is probably a restrict.

and get No Retreat. Seems interesting.

gets Techno Blast, the next best thing to Boomburst. It could also hold a drive for a customized coverage move. Still probably unviable, but it seems interesting.

gets Mew's whole movepool, which is fun.

, , and other Regenerator users get Spore and Leech Seed to wreak even more havoc.

gets Shift Gear, Meteor Mash, and Megahorn. My bias aside, this seems really fun. It also gets Spectral Thief, but lacks the speed to fully utilize it.

Questions for the community:

Should you be allowed to inherit from natdex?

I've assumed you can mix and match inherited moves, but would it be more interesting if you can only inherit from one Pokemon at a time?

On a related note, should you also have to use the same ability as the Pokemon you're inheriting from? i.e. Blaziken would have to use Blaze to get Pyro Ball.

This is my first submission, so any feedback would be welcome.

Edit: I would also like feedback on the name.

Other stuff:
These both get Spikes now
252 SpA Choice Specs Tapu Lele Expanding Force (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey in Psychic Terrain: 294-346 (41.1 - 48.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Uh oh
Get Spin now which is cool ig
Gets Poltergeist and SD which is yikes
Gets EQ to melt Tran with

 

[DrPumpkinz]

Gets Earth Power and Magma Storm from Heatran (probably won't use Magma Storm since its lower accuracy and initial power don't gel with its role as a sweeper)


You noted Hitmonchan (and by extension, every other Iron Fist user, all of which are better than Hitmonchan) getting access to Melmetal's Double Iron Bash, but I find Melmetal itself getting access to Bullet Punch more noteworthy.


Mew should probably be restricted, especially if you choose not to force Pokemon to run the ability they're drawing from.


Likely reclaims its role as premier rain setter, as it can use Pelipper's Roost and U-turn without being weak to Stealth Rock.


It's stronger than Dracovish and nearly as fast. It doesn't need a scarf to be terrifying. Quickban this shit. Also, if the user's ability doesn't need to align, Drednaw, Seismitoad, and Poliwrath can all use Fishious Rend with Swift Swim.

 

[Cuddly]

Skill Switch
​

Metagame Premise: Pokemon can use the moveset of any Pokemon they share an ability with.

Movepool inheritance ideas have been submitted here before, but I think this is an interesting take on it. I looked through this thread and I don't believe this has been proposed before, but I might be wrong.

This opens up exciting possibilities for a lot of Pokemon, especially ones with common abilities.

Potential bans and threats:

gets Bolt Beak. Enough said. Luckily, Fisheous Rend inheritors are typically slow and/or lack STAB or high Attack. might still be terrifying with Strong Jaw and a Scarf.

and get Brave Bird from if you can inherit from natdex Pokemon, and Dual Wingbeat from otherwise.

If you can inherit from natdex, restrict taking from , for obvious reasons.

Pressure users can take exclusive moves from the multitude of Pressure legendaries. gets Aeroblast, can spread burns with Sacred Fire, and a few others get valuable coverage.

gets Court Change and Pyro Ball. gets trapping shenanigans with Spirit Shackle.

Water Shuriken! and seem like the best users. If you can inherit from natdex, Water starters like and also get it. Shell Smash Water Shuriken Blastoise is scary.

all get their terrain interaction moves, along with Play Rough for Koko and Bulu. These might be restricts.

Ultra Beasts are fun:
gets Agility, which might help patch up its disappointing Speed. It also gets a multitude of much-needed coverage moves. idk if this will be viable.
gets Iron Head, Power Whip, and U-Turn. Ouch.
gets Volt Switch and Synthesis.
and also get Volt Switch.

The Rotoms expand on their already huge support movepool, getting tools like Rapid Spin, Stealth Rock, and Recover.

can actually utilize Double Iron Bash's insane flinch chance. This is probably a restrict.

and get No Retreat. Seems interesting.

gets Techno Blast, the next best thing to Boomburst. It could also hold a drive for a customized coverage move. Still probably unviable, but it seems interesting.

gets Mew's whole movepool, which is fun.

, , and other Regenerator users get Spore and Leech Seed to wreak even more havoc.

gets Shift Gear, Meteor Mash, and Megahorn. My bias aside, this seems really fun. It also gets Spectral Thief, but lacks the speed to fully utilize it.

Questions for the community:

Should you be allowed to inherit from natdex?

I've assumed you can mix and match inherited moves, but would it be more interesting if you can only inherit from one Pokemon at a time?

On a related note, should you also have to use the same ability as the Pokemon you're inheriting from? i.e. Blaziken would have to use Blaze to get Pyro Ball.

This is my first submission, so any feedback would be welcome.

Edit: I would also like feedback on the name.

Nah, since you can mix and match the movepools you receive from, and also don't lose access to your original movepool.

Oh, in that case.

I don’t even need to post the why this would be busted.

Gets access to Roost, with the latter getting No Retreat and Sword Dance.

If I remember correctly, using Lock Jaw would let you use No Retreat multiple times, and Kabutops shares an ability with Drednaw and Falinks. Armaldo also gets this combination but Kabutops also gets Weak Armor moves as well.

 

[Dusk Mage Necrozma]

You noted Hitmonchan (and by extension, every other Iron Fist user, all of which are better than Hitmonchan) getting access to Melmetal's Double Iron Bash, but I find Melmetal itself getting access to Bullet Punch more noteworthy.

I mentioned Hitmonchan because it’s the fastest, and as such can use the flinch chance the most.

Anyways, here are some more things:

, , , , and more get Boomburst, roughly equivalent to a 95 BP bonus STAB.
Edit: so do the Tapus. Scary.

gets Gunk Shot, but still has to rely on Earth Power or settle for Earthquake.

Anything with Limber or Synchronize can transform now, which is hilarious. Musharna has the highest HP; if Mew’s moves are restricted, the next highest is Stunfisk. You could also use Toxapex to soak up a hit before transforming.

gets Morning Sun. gets Will-O-Wisp. These seem annoying.

None of them are particularly powerful, but fast Technician users can snatch boosts with Spectral Thief.

(Rapid Strike) gets Wicked Blow as strong coverage.

Strength Sap has just the right distribution so that the top walls (except ) don’t get it, but , , , , , , and even are substitutes.

, , , and all get Sacred Fire for coverage and/or burn spreading.

Edit: Web setters! , , , , the Tapus, , and especially , , , and seem promising. Might be a bit less potent when a lot of the meta gets Rapid Spin.

Also, and can run rampant with Belly Drum and Extreme Speed like Linoone++ until Espeed is restricted.
Edit 2: so can Scrappy , which is even more terrifying. I’m sure there are even more, but those are the Normal types.

 

[urkerab]

I looked through this thread and I don't believe this has been proposed before, but I might be wrong.

The nearest I know of was Ability Bridge, which might have been a failed proposal for Gen 7. The difference there was that you could only share from the ability you were currently running, unless it was Levitate, Pressure or Shadow Tag, when you couldn't share at all.

 

[Cuddly]

Other stuff:
These both get Spikes now
252 SpA Choice Specs Tapu Lele Expanding Force (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey in Psychic Terrain: 294-346 (41.1 - 48.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Uh oh
Get Spin now which is cool ig
Gets Poltergeist and SD which is yikes
Gets EQ to melt Tran with

I mentioned Hitmonchan because it’s the fastest, and as such can use the flinch chance the most.

Anyways, here are some more things:

, , , , and more get Boomburst, roughly equivalent to a 95 BP bonus STAB.
Edit: so do the Tapus. Scary.

gets Gunk Shot, but still has to rely on Earth Power or settle for Earthquake.

Anything with Limber or Synchronize can transform now, which is hilarious. Musharna has the highest HP; if Mew’s moves are restricted, the next highest is Stunfisk. You could also use Toxapex to soak up a hit before transforming.

gets Morning Sun. gets Will-O-Wisp. These seem annoying.

None of them are particularly powerful, but fast Technician users can snatch boosts with Spectral Thief.

(Rapid Strike) gets Wicked Blow as strong coverage.

Strength Sap has just the right distribution so that the top walls (except ) don’t get it, but , , , , , , and even are substitutes.

, , , and all get Sacred Fire for coverage and/or burn spreading.

Edit: Web setters! , , , , the Tapus, , and especially , , , and seem promising. Might be a bit less potent when a lot of the meta gets Rapid Spin.

Also, and can run rampant with Belly Drum and Extreme Speed like Linoone++ until Espeed is restricted.
Edit 2: so can Scrappy , which is even more terrifying. I’m sure there are even more, but those are the Normal types.

Btw, how do Pre-Evolutions and Formes factor into this?
Weavile’s own abilities are Pressure and Pickpocket, but Sneasal has Inner Focus and Keen Eye as well.
Additionally, Landorus has Sand Force and Sheer Force in its Incarnate forme, but has Intimidate in its Therian forme.
In Metagames like STABmons, a Pokemon like Scizor gets Flying type moves, and Rotom gets Ghost/Fire/Water/Grass/Ice/Flying moves, but this metagame may be different.

 

[Nitro Indigo]

Weavile’s own abilities are Pressure and Pickpocket, but Sneasal has Inner Focus and Keen Eye as well.

I assume pre-evolutions' ability-movepools would "carry over", because that's how STABmons and Alphabet Cup work. In this case, Weavile gets Dragon Dance from Dragonite.

 

[Dusk Mage Necrozma]

I assume pre-evolutions' ability-movepools would "carry over", because that's how STABmons and Alphabet Cup work. In this case, Weavile gets Dragon Dance from Dragonite.

Yeah, that’s what I figured, but I didn’t mention it because I couldn’t think of any examples. Here are some though:

finally gets Flying moves from Tornadus or Whimsicott.

gets Brave Bird and Will-O-Wisp.

With 5 abilities across its line, gets a myriad of moves like Head Smash, Swords Dance, SHORE UP, and Brave Bird for coverage.

The physical attacking Eeveelutions (, ) get Crabhammer for coverage. The defensive ones (, ) get Leech Seed and Stealth Rock.

And unrelated to evolution or forme change:

also gets Tyranitar’s weather/healing combo with Morning Sun.

gets Crabhammer as a high-power Water STAB. Sheer Force users like , , and , as well as the aforementioned Eeveelutions, get it as coverage.

, , , , , , , and all get Quiver Dance.

, , , , all the Water starters, , (oh no), , and all get Shell Smash.

gets Cotton Guard, making it no longer die to a Branch Poke if it gets a free turn.

 

[Dusk Mage Necrozma]

Also, some sets!

Nuclear Tree

Xurkitree @ Life Orb
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast/Synthesis

no bias here

Scizor @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician/Swarm
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shift Gear
- Megahorn
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch/Spectral Thief

You Shall Not Pass

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 128 HP / 128 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Sacred Fire
- Roost
- Brave Bird/Scale Shot

Gen 5 2.0

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Head Smash
- Knock Off
- Shore Up
- Dragon Dance/Swords Dance

Pirate Robot Ninja Zombie

Dragapult @ Life Orb
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature/Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance/Shell Smash
- Dragon Darts
- Poltergeist
- Brave Bird/Diamond Storm/Meteor Mash

Those are all setup sweepers, so here are some walls and pivots:

4MSS-Therian

Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Atk / 128 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Brave Bird
- Will-O-Wisp/Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock/Roost/Rapid Spin

Web Knight

Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Sticky Web
- Roost
- Rapid Spin/Stealth Rock
- Sacred Fire/Will-O-Wisp/Rapid Spin

Better Pex

Toxapex @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Knock Off
- Recover
- Toxic
- Sacred Fire/Scald/Will-O-Wisp

Unkillable Ferrothorn

Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet/Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Synthesis
- Knock Off
- Stealth Rock/Spikes

 

[DrPumpkinz]

Scizor @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician/Swarm
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shift Gear
- Megahorn
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch/Spectral Thief

Scizor's probably better off running Pin Missile over Megahorn. More accurate, and the potential to be much stronger.

Also


Melmetal gets Rock Polish from Golurk, in case you still thought Hitmonchan's better-than-awful-but-still-very-mediocre speed was something to worry about.

 

[Nitro Indigo]

, , , , all the Water starters, , (oh no), , and all get Shell Smash.

Shell Smash is usually banned from metas that give Pokémon new moves.

 

[Dusk Mage Necrozma]

Yeah, we should probably just assume the STABmons banlist

 

[Cuddly]

Honestly, a issue I have with this metagame idea is that Movepools become so bloated for most Pokemon.
Just to illustrate how bloated they can be, here is examples;

All non-exclusive Abilities with Belly Drum

1. Cute Charm
2. Magic Guard
3. Unaware
4. Oblivious
5. Own Tempo
6. Regenerator
7. Bulletproof
8. Soundproof
9. Overcoat
10. Thick Fat
11. Huge Power
12. Sap Sipper
13. Cursed Body
14. Lightning Rod
15. Rock Head
16. Pickup
17. Gluttony
18. Quick Feet
19. Sweet Veil
20. Unburden
21. Immunity
22. Blaze
23. Solar Power
24. Cheek Pouch
25. Cloud Nine
26. Flame Body
27. Vital Spirit
28. Battle Armor
29. Water Absorb
30. Damp
31. Drizzle
32. Swift Swim
33. Ice Body
34. Hustle
35. Inner Focus

All non-exclusive Abilities with Teleport

1. Pressure
2. Unnerve
3. Natural Cure
4. Serene Grace
5. Healer
6. Cute Charm
7. Magic Guard
8. Unaware
9. Magnet Pull
10. Sturdy
11. Analytic
12. Synchronize
13. Oblivious
14. Own Tempo
15. Regenerator
16. Inner Focus
17. Shell Armor
18. Skill Link
19. Overcoat
20. Trace
21. Telepathy
22. Download
23. Adaptability
24. Intimidate
25. Flash Fire
26. Justified
27. Illuminate
28. Early Bird
29. Magic Bounce
30. Frisk
31. Harvest
32. Levitate
33. Steadfast
34. Compound Eyes
35. Tinted Lens
36. Motor Drive
37. Vital Spirit
38. Chlorophyll
39. Forewarn
40. Dry Skin
41. Flame Body
42. Soundproof
43. Technician
44. Competitive
45. Friend Guard
46. Static

All non-exclusive Abilities with Boomburst

1. Overgrow
2. Grassy Surge
3. Bulletproof
4. Soundproof
5. Overcoat
6. Levitate
7. Frisk
8. Infiltrator
9. Telepathy
10. Plus
11. Minus
12. Technician
13. Scrappy

All non-exclusive Abilities with Freeze-Dry

1. Zen Mode
2. Pressure
3. Teravolt
4. Turboblaze
5. Snow Cloak
6. Snow Warning
7. Volt Absorb
8. Static
9. Slush Rush
10. Oblivious
11. Thick Fat
12. Water Absorb
13. Ice Body
14. Refrigerate
15. Levitate
16. Vital Spirit
17. Hustle
18. Insomnia
19. Inner Focus
20. Moody
21. Shell Armor
22. Hydration
23. Tangled Feet
24. Weak Armor

All non-exclusive Abilities with Quiver Dance

1. Beast Boost
2. Flame Body
3. Swarm
4. Shield Dust
5. Honey Gather
6. Sweet Veil
7. Chlorophyll
8. Healer
9. Compound Eyes
10. Tinted Lens
11. Own Tempo
12. Leaf Guard

All non-exclusive Abilities with Extreme Speed

1. Download
2. Inner Focus
3. Multiscale
4. Steadfast
5. Justified
6. Pressure
7. Hustle
8. Serene Grace
9. Super Luck
10. Pickup
11. Gluttony
12. Quick Feet
13. Intimidate
14. Flash Fire
15. Static
16. Lightning Rod
17. Shed Skin
18. Marvel Scale

Also consider a Pokemon only needs to have that ability as an option or some pre-evolutions and alternate forms too. Basically every Pokemon runs their strongest STABs with the best coverage/status moves they can get. Even after all the big bads like Extreme Speed and Spore are banned, so many Pokemon have access to nearly all the moves.

 

[Schpoonman]

I think limiting to just sharing with Pokemon whose ability you actively share is starting to sound like the better starting point. It will tighten movepools significantly but increasing the power of the metagame over time sounds like it would just be cleaner.

I don't have the set right now, but Trick Room Head Smash Maro-A is just the starting point if you don't restrict moves.

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

Other stuff:
These both get Spikes now
252 SpA Choice Specs Tapu Lele Expanding Force (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey in Psychic Terrain: 294-346 (41.1 - 48.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Uh oh
Get Spin now which is cool ig
Gets Poltergeist and SD which is yikes
Gets EQ to melt Tran with

Uhhh... Shuckle gets Body Press, Volcanion and other Water Absorb Pokemon get(s) Freeze-Dry, Mew and other Synchronize Pokemon get(s) Recover, Bisharp and other Inner Focus Pokemon get(s) Recover, and (insert more here)

 

[Dusk Mage Necrozma]

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I want to do something based on what abilities a Pokemon has; any suggestions?

 

[DrPumpkinz]

All of this assumes the Pokemon needs to use the ability it's drawing from.


Ferrothorn gets some very nice tools from Togedemaru. The main tool is U-turn (and Volt Switch), allowing it to serve as an even more effective pivot, and allowing it to more easily heal its allies with Leech Seed, but it also gets Super Fang, Wish as an alternative to Leech Seed, and Nuzzle as an upgrade to Thunder Wave.


Rain is nutty, thanks to Omastar sharing Shell Smash with every Swift Swim user. Barraskewda is probably too frail to use it, but the others can use it to rip through teams even after rain runs out.


Even if Shell Smash is banned from non-native users, Barbaracle can still use it to great effect, especially now that it upgrades its Fighting coverage from Cross Chop to Close Combat. It also gets Accelerock and a sidegrade to Earthquake in Drill Run (high crit chance and 4 higher base power, but has a chance to miss and activates stuff like Rocky Helmet).


Dracozolt can borrow from its misshapen brethren to smash any Ground-type looking to block its Bolt Beak with a Fishious Rend.


Skarmory @ Shell Bell
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 1
- Feint
- Endeavor
- Toxic
- Pain Split

Just about the most optimal FEAR strategy you could ask for. Toxic can't stop it, sandstorm can't stop it, spikes can't stop it, priority can't stop it, Ghost-types can stop it but go down in the process.

 

[Cratersmash]

Have some more
Bolt Beak. Yeah no get this thing out of here

252 SpA Choice Specs Tapu Lele Expanding Force (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey in Psychic Terrain: 294-346 (41.1 - 48.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Uh oh

Gonna put this here again
Gets Slack Off if you want that
Spore.
Still bad but it gets Fishious Rend which is fun

 

[Nitro Indigo]

This is starting to remind me of the "Pokémon share moves with their egg group" idea on the rejections list.