Pokemon Scarlet & Violet - 18th Nov 2022! **OFFICIAL INFO ONLY**

[Worldie]

Although speaking of Pokémeat, I would like to share thoughts on the situation. I believe that the meat in the Pokémon World is merely Pokématter, just something pokes will give you instead of dying, similar to slowpoke tail, something it can regrow. Also I predicted bocadillos appearing in S/V (close enough bruh bocadillo is literally spanish for sandwich) in June

While reasonable, there is the fact that several Pokemon species are stated to predate each other, consequentially they are indeed edible.
With these premises, there's no real reason for which humans wouldn't be able to eat pokemon as well.
Sure, preferably humans try to feed on... regrowable bits, probably as a consequence of the symbiosis they developed over the ages, but there's no real reason to believe that in ancient times (think Hisui or even earlier) humans didn't feed on Pokemon.

 

[Nokocchi]

While reasonable, there is the fact that several Pokemon species are stated to predate each other, consequentially they are indeed edible.
With these premises, there's no real reason for which humans wouldn't be able to eat pokemon as well.
Sure, preferably humans try to feed on... regrowable bits, probably as a consequence of the symbiosis they developed over the ages, but there's no real reason to believe that in ancient times (think Hisui or even earlier) humans didn't feed on Pokemon.

Farfetch'd was eaten by people to the point it became endangered. Doesn't sound like it was a distant past type of deal, either.

 

[Local Dog]

Do you think that Cherubi tastes like a real cherry?

 

[NaturalTropius]

Those Sunflora got trained by SSB for 3DS Olimar’s Pikmin and 3DS Moltres.
Jokes aside, those Sunflora look terrible. The game in general looks like it belongs on the GameCube tbh and GameFreak really needs to learn how to optimize performance. We’re on the 5th (4th if you don’t count BDSP being a game outsourced to literally whos) mainline Pokemon game and the games still look like they’re made beginners on a budget.

(reminder that the japanese trailer has them running much smoother)

 

[Worldie]

(reminder that the japanese trailer has them running much smoother)

I pointed that earlier as well, however even an almost GF apologist like me has to agree that despite the improvements from the 1.0 SwSh, they still have a long way to go.

That said, for SV, honestly as long as we don't have the game drop to actual 10 fps as soon as you turn on internet, I'll be fine.

 

[pika pal]

Sometimes I wonder if TPC likes to throw these kinds of details in without a full blown focus or explanation, because "OMG what is Pokemon Ham?!" makes for a lot of memes and trendy video clips by React Creators, i.e. free viral marketing every time they show off the feature.

 

[Bakugames]

I just think they wanted to make a sammich with your pokemon partners :)

 

[Yung Dramps]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1578369634981609477

This isn't really news in the traditional sense but I'm sure someone who follows this thread must be a splong enjoyer so hey

 

[Volt-Ikazuchi]

So the answer to "why are they hiding levels" was simply "the specific parts of gym battles that we saw, jsut do not show levels, for no particular reason"

Even the trailer mons can't help but be overleveled against these wimps.

Also, this confirms Brassier is the first leader. 17 is fairly low, so his gym should be fairly close to the starting cities.

Ok so I looked through the part with the sleeping Farigiraf to make sure nothing was misinterpreted and uh. It very visibly took chip damage from Sleep

Yeah ok this is something else

Why did they fall asleep in the first place? The raid battle had no cuts before that, I don't think we missed stray Yawns or anything like that.

As for the trailer itself... It was pretty nice. Can't hate. Ok, tbh, I can, but I don't want to.

TMs seem to be as divisive as BotW's breakable weapons, but frankly, this seems to be a great system. I'm guessing you unlock TMs by doing certain things (Like for example, we can safely guess that Trailblaze is a TM and that you'll be able to craft it after beating Brassier.)

So far, it really looks like they've put a lot of thought into the open-world aspect of SV. Sure, there are some unknowns (How tf are they going to explain the Legendary deal instead of just having us ride a Cyclizar like everyone else?) and some poorly thought-out ones like the apparent lack of scaling for Leaders.

Like Legends, which I've yet to finish, there seems to be a lot more "effort" when it comes to making these games. I can't say that'll translate into an actually good game, but it's at least a very good start.

 

[fratelli bc]

Do you think that Cherubi tastes like a real cherry?

If grass-type pokemon are technically animals... What can vegan trainers eat?

 

[R_N]

If grass-type pokemon are technically animals... What can vegan trainers eat?

normal plants and vegetables, i assume

 

[amberturdz]

Well its only a matter of time before the crystal pokemon get banned. When you think about how blissey and chansey can just turn into a ghost type and be immune to fighting. And just counter your whole strategy. Or how fairy types can just turn into steel types or poison seems kind of OP.

 

[Bakugames]

When you think about how blissey and chansey can just turn into a ghost type and be immune to fighting.

If gen 9 follows a similar path to gen 8? Changing to ghost type for defenses sounds insane when everyone and their mother throws shadow balls and knock offs

 

[Volt-Ikazuchi]

Well its only a matter of time before the crystal pokemon get banned. When you think about how blissey and chansey can just turn into a ghost type and be immune to fighting. And just counter your whole strategy. Or how fairy types can just turn into steel types or poison seems kind of OP.

In reality, that's really not going to do much. It ain't like mons don't run coverage moves.

Think about this, what is a Ghost Blissey going to do against say, a Conkeldurr in one turn?

Conk will whiff a Fighting move, Bliss ain't going to do much of anything besides throwing up some status or a Seismic Toss, and then it'll get bonked right out of the game by a Knock Off.

The surprise factor of Tera is only a game-changer if you can actually capitalize on it. Otherwise, you're better off thinking long-term and that also gives your opponent time to work around it too, especially if they can also Tera.

This ain't Dynamax, you're not launching nukes with added benefits and getting extra bulk for free. You're changing your type, which brings in advantages and disadvantages.

 

[Project_Mars]

Why did they fall asleep in the first place? The raid battle had no cuts before that, I don't think we missed stray Yawns or anything like that.

You also don't see the Chansey throwing any attacks at the other Pokemon in the raids, however they take damage and faint so it seems like it only shows what is happening to your 'mon.

 

[Cuddly]

Well its only a matter of time before the crystal pokemon get banned. When you think about how blissey and chansey can just turn into a ghost type and be immune to fighting. And just counter your whole strategy. Or how fairy types can just turn into steel types or poison seems kind of OP.

I think that most people underestimate the value of letting your defensive Pokemon check more things (like Grass Heatran being able to check Tornadus-T, Volcarona, Barraskewda, and Landorus-T) and I also think that Blissey is going to be one of the better abusers too. However the mechanic is far from that OP (in singles at least. 1v1 and Doubles it’s a bit different). You’re still a mono type Pokemon with just different weaknesses and resistances. Like Blissey becomes immune to Fighting as a Ghost, but becomes weak to Ghost and Dark. This can be alleviated by having another teammate like a Dark type to take those hits. Blissey also still doesn’t take physical hits well either.
This dynamic is something I find really cool about the mechanic and is such a contrast to Dynamax.
One side has a lot of complexities in its design but all those complexities are just there to make sure little kids don’t have to actually think that much when using it. Ignoring any strategies that don’t involve the legendary trio or the mechanic itself. Almost all sets for the designated abuser are the same too. Either you have something choice locked or a set up sweeper in singles, and have a somewhat bulky attacker with the stat boosting big button moves to survive opposing big button moves.
On the other, you have just a simple type change that interacts with 1 move and also gives you stronger STAB. This alone creates a way more dynamic mechanic than the Unga Bunga button. You have to consider the consequences of Terastallizing and maybe not even use it.

 

[658Greninja]

I don’t know if it is ok for me to theorycraft potential stats/abilities for the new pkmn but here is a handful.



Sprigatito-Final Evo
Type: Grass (Grass/Dark???)
Abilities: Overgrow
Hidden Ability: Magic Guard
Stats
HP 68
ATK 103
DFSE 69
SPA 108
SPD 72
SPED 120
TOTAL 530

Most likely gonna be the speed demon out of the three. Based off the leaks or has a broken ability whether new or old. Has a good chance of getting great moves like U-Turn, Knock, Taunt, Fake Out, Nasty Plot, etc. Dark is a great offensive typing when paired with something that hits Fighting and Fairy SE/Neutral

Fuecoco-Final-Evo
Type: Fire (Fire/Ghost???)
Abilities: Blaze
Hidden Ability: Ripen
Stats
HP 100
ATK 120
DFSE 80
SPA 100
SPD 80
SPED 60
TOTAL 530

I imagine it to be the slow tank of the three. Not sure if its Atk or SpA should be its highest stat. Assuming it gets good Ghost STAB, Chandy and Alolawak aren’t in the game, and maybe DD, it can


Quaxly-Final-Evo
Type: Water (Water/Fighting???)
Abilities: Torrent
Hidden Ability: Vital Spirit
Stats
HP 70
ATK 111
DFSE 73
SPA 100
SPD 73
SPED 103
TOTAL 530

Has the most potential out of the three competitively. Its stat spread and movepool can go in interesting directions since its a bird and bird mons get Defog, Roost, and U-Turn, very useful moves. Assuming it gets that and more it can shine depending on its stat spread. I think they will make Quaxly the physical attacker of the three while giving it a

Pawmi-Evo
Type: Electric (Electric/Fighting???)
Abilities: Static/Natural Cure
Hidden Ability: Regenerator
Stats
HP 110
ATK 95
DFSE 95
SPA 65
SPD 65
SPED 60
TOTAL 490

I have a feeling GameFreak is planning on making Pawmi the best Pika clone competitively, especially since based off the leaks it is the only one besides Pika itself with an evolution. It gives off the impression of a cleric due to its ability Natural Cure, so HP is what I predict to be its highest stat. Alongside Nuzzle it could get Heal Bell or Wish, it apparently gets a broken move with 1 pp based off the leaks but we

Fidough-Evo
Type: Fairy
Abilities: Own Tempo/Sweet Veil
Hidden Ability: Huge Power
Stats
HP 92
ATK 76
DFSE 78
SPA 80
SPD 110
SPED 54
TOTAL 490

I got a strong feeling that GameFreak is just gonna make another Azumarill. The stat spread here gives it great special bulk, low speed, and low atk stats but with Huge Power. Still, only time will tell what direction Fidough will go.

Grafaiai
Type: Poison/Normal
Abilities: Unburden/Poison Touch
Hidden Ability: Moody
Stats
HP 72
ATK 100
DFSE 65
SPA 80
SPD 65
SPED 110
TOTAL 492

From its design it strikes me as a fast mon with decent offensive capabilities. Normal/Poison is terrible offensively so I assuming it will be built around Terrastrializing. Fake Out with U-Turn + Poison Touch sound obnoxious for VGC

Klawf
Type: Rock
Abilities: Anger Shell/Shell Armor
Hidden Ability: Hyper Cutter
Stats
HP 68
ATK 104
DFSE 105
SPA 46
SPD 67
SPED 58
TOTAL 448

Because of its ability and that it could potentially get Shell Smash, I figured Gamefreak would not go crazy with the stats. Decent HP/Atk, med

Armarouge
Type: Fire/Psychic
Abilities: Flash Fire
Hidden Ability:
Stats
HP 70
ATK 85
DFSE 100
SPA 125
SPD 100
SPED 50
TOTAL 530

Slow but hard hitting special tank. That is the direction I believe Game Freak is planning with Armarouge

Ceruledge
Type: Fire/Ghost
Abilities: Flash Fire
Hidden Ability:
Stats
HP 70
ATK 125
DFSE 90
SPA 85
SPD 90
SPED 70
TOTAL 530

Its dex entry states that it attacks swiftly, but if we have learned anything from Vikavolt’s dex entry, we should know that it is a big fucking lie. Might have around 60-80 base speed, or 40 if Game Freak is feeling cruel. Mos

Cetitan
Type: Ice
Abilities: Thick Fat/Slush Rush
Hidden Ability: Rough Skin
Stats
HP 130
ATK 128
DFSE 80
SPA 60
SPD 80
SPED 57
TOTAL 525

High HP cause of the other whale pokemon Wailord. Needs really good horsepower and bulk if it wants to be a good Slush Rush abuser. I’m hoping for Swords Dance or some utility but I don’t see it as likely. Game Freak surprises us though, we ended up having Conk learn Defog.

Farigiraf (Girafarig Evo)
Type: Normal/Psychic
Abilities: Cud Chew/Armor Tail
Hidden Ability: Sap Sipper
Stats
HP 70
ATK 130
DFSE 100
SPA 95
SPD 65
SPED 76
TOTAL 536

Outside of Metagross, Medicham, and Gallade, we do not have alot of physical attacking Psychic types. Pokemon likes making the evolutions of older Pokémon slower as seen with Electivire, Ursaluna, and Wyrdeer. Cud Chew sounds busted depending on how its stats and movepool will pan out. Gonna abuse the hell out of Terrastrializing.

Overall my prediction is that Game Freak is not going to go crazy with the stats of Pokemon going forward after the mess of power creep that was Sword and Shield.

 

[fratelli bc]

I don’t know if it is ok for me to theorycraft potential stats/abilities for the new pkmn but here is a handful.



Sprigatito-Final Evo
Type: Grass (Grass/Dark???)
Abilities: Overgrow
Hidden Ability: Magic Guard
Stats
HP 68
ATK 103
DFSE 69
SPA 108
SPD 72
SPED 120
TOTAL 530

Most likely gonna be the speed demon out of the three. Based off the leaks or has a broken ability whether new or old. Has a good chance of getting great moves like U-Turn, Knock, Taunt, Fake Out, Nasty Plot, etc. Dark is a great offensive typing when paired with something that hits Fighting and Fairy SE/Neutral

Fuecoco-Final-Evo
Type: Fire (Fire/Ghost???)
Abilities: Blaze
Hidden Ability: Ripen
Stats
HP 100
ATK 120
DFSE 80
SPA 100
SPD 80
SPED 60
TOTAL 530

I imagine it to be the slow tank of the three. Not sure if its Atk or SpA should be its highest stat. Assuming it gets good Ghost STAB, Chandy and Alolawak aren’t in the game, and maybe DD, it can


Quaxly-Final-Evo
Type: Water (Water/Fighting???)
Abilities: Torrent
Hidden Ability: Vital Spirit
Stats
HP 70
ATK 111
DFSE 73
SPA 100
SPD 73
SPED 103
TOTAL 530

Has the most potential out of the three competitively. Its stat spread and movepool can go in interesting directions since its a bird and bird mons get Defog, Roost, and U-Turn, very useful moves. Assuming it gets that and more it can shine depending on its stat spread. I think they will make Quaxly the physical attacker of the three while giving it a

Pawmi-Evo
Type: Electric (Electric/Fighting???)
Abilities: Static/Natural Cure
Hidden Ability: Regenerator
Stats
HP 110
ATK 95
DFSE 95
SPA 65
SPD 65
SPED 60
TOTAL 490

I have a feeling GameFreak is planning on making Pawmi the best Pika clone competitively, especially since based off the leaks it is the only one besides Pika itself with an evolution. It gives off the impression of a cleric due to its ability Natural Cure, so HP is what I predict to be its highest stat. Alongside Nuzzle it could get Heal Bell or Wish, it apparently gets a broken move with 1 pp based off the leaks but we

Fidough-Evo
Type: Fairy
Abilities: Own Tempo/Sweet Veil
Hidden Ability: Huge Power
Stats
HP 92
ATK 76
DFSE 78
SPA 80
SPD 110
SPED 54
TOTAL 490

I got a strong feeling that GameFreak is just gonna make another Azumarill. The stat spread here gives it great special bulk, low speed, and low atk stats but with Huge Power. Still, only time will tell what direction Fidough will go.

Grafaiai
Type: Poison/Normal
Abilities: Unburden/Poison Touch
Hidden Ability: Moody
Stats
HP 72
ATK 100
DFSE 65
SPA 80
SPD 65
SPED 110
TOTAL 492

From its design it strikes me as a fast mon with decent offensive capabilities. Normal/Poison is terrible offensively so I assuming it will be built around Terrastrializing. Fake Out with U-Turn + Poison Touch sound obnoxious for VGC

Klawf
Type: Rock
Abilities: Anger Shell/Shell Armor
Hidden Ability: Hyper Cutter
Stats
HP 68
ATK 104
DFSE 105
SPA 46
SPD 67
SPED 58
TOTAL 448

Because of its ability and that it could potentially get Shell Smash, I figured Gamefreak would not go crazy with the stats. Decent HP/Atk, med

Armarouge
Type: Fire/Psychic
Abilities: Flash Fire
Hidden Ability:
Stats
HP 70
ATK 85
DFSE 100
SPA 125
SPD 100
SPED 50
TOTAL 530

Slow but hard hitting special tank. That is the direction I believe Game Freak is planning with Armarouge

Ceruledge
Type: Fire/Ghost
Abilities: Flash Fire
Hidden Ability:
Stats
HP 70
ATK 125
DFSE 90
SPA 85
SPD 90
SPED 70
TOTAL 530

Its dex entry states that it attacks swiftly, but if we have learned anything from Vikavolt’s dex entry, we should know that it is a big fucking lie. Might have around 60-80 base speed, or 40 if Game Freak is feeling cruel. Mos

Cetitan
Type: Ice
Abilities: Thick Fat/Slush Rush
Hidden Ability: Rough Skin
Stats
HP 130
ATK 128
DFSE 80
SPA 60
SPD 80
SPED 57
TOTAL 525

High HP cause of the other whale pokemon Wailord. Needs really good horsepower and bulk if it wants to be a good Slush Rush abuser. I’m hoping for Swords Dance or some utility but I don’t see it as likely. Game Freak surprises us though, we ended up having Conk learn Defog.

Farigiraf (Girafarig Evo)
Type: Normal/Psychic
Abilities: Cud Chew/Armor Tail
Hidden Ability: Sap Sipper
Stats
HP 70
ATK 130
DFSE 100
SPA 95
SPD 65
SPED 76
TOTAL 536

Outside of Metagross, Medicham, and Gallade, we do not have alot of physical attacking Psychic types. Pokemon likes making the evolutions of older Pokémon slower as seen with Electivire, Ursaluna, and Wyrdeer. Cud Chew sounds busted depending on how its stats and movepool will pan out. Gonna abuse the hell out of Terrastrializing.

Overall my prediction is that Game Freak is not going to go crazy with the stats of Pokemon going forward after the mess of power creep that was Sword and Shield.

Well... One thing is for sure. Gamefreak is showing sprigatito way too much. It looks like it will be the Greninja/Charizard/Incineroar of the season.

 

[Volt-Ikazuchi]

Well... One thing is for sure. Gamefreak is showing sprigatito way too much. It looks like it will be the Greninja/Charizard/Incineroar of the season.

Quaxly literally got a whole section of the trailer for it and the other two mons were left with scraps lol.

As for my wild guess... The final starter evos will be monotype so kids can just go unga bunga with Tera without fearing any consequence.

 

[fratelli bc]

Quaxly literally got a whole section of the trailer for it and the other two mons were left with scraps lol.

As for my wild guess... The final starter evos will be monotype so kids can just go unga bunga with Tera without fearing any consequence.

This is the only trailer Quaxly appeared more than the others.
At last we know it is not fuecoco

 

[DrPumpkinz]

Fidough-Evo
Type: Fairy
Abilities: Own Tempo/Sweet Veil
Hidden Ability: Huge Power
Stats
HP 92
ATK 76
DFSE 78
SPA 80
SPD 110
SPED 54
TOTAL 490

I got a strong feeling that GameFreak is just gonna make another Azumarill. The stat spread here gives it great special bulk, low speed, and low atk stats but with Huge Power. Still, only time will tell what direction Fidough will go.

Was gonna say that Fidough isn't a rabbit but it being dough would honestly still fit the mochi theme, so Huge Power still works.

 

[AquaticPanic]

This is the only trailer Quaxly appeared more than the others.
At last we know it is not fuecoco

Leaker suppositions alert

leakedy doo

 

[Cuddly]

Farigiraf (Girafarig Evo)
Type: Normal/Psychic
Abilities: Cud Chew/Armor Tail
Hidden Ability: Sap Sipper
Stats
HP 70
ATK 130
DFSE 100
SPA 95
SPD 65
SPED 76
TOTAL 536

Outside of Metagross, Medicham, and Gallade, we do not have alot of physical attacking Psychic types. Pokemon likes making the evolutions of older Pokémon slower as seen with Electivire, Ursaluna, and Wyrdeer. Cud Chew sounds busted depending on how its stats and movepool will pan out. Gonna abuse the hell out of Terrastrializing.

I’m pretty sure Farigiraf is gonna be a special or mixed attacker. The website describes that Farigirag has better psychic capabilities from its stronger nerves, how the “Farig” protects the “Giraf”, and is also slower due to its body being slower than its mind.

 

[ArchaeusXolotl]

While reasonable, there is the fact that several Pokemon species are stated to predate each other, consequentially they are indeed edible.
With these premises, there's no real reason for which humans wouldn't be able to eat pokemon as well.
Sure, preferably humans try to feed on... regrowable bits, probably as a consequence of the symbiosis they developed over the ages, but there's no real reason to believe that in ancient times (think Hisui or even earlier) humans didn't feed on Pokemon.

The gen 1 dex entries for Farfetch’d weren’t exactly produced at the point where Pokémon world building was done, Kanto had whipped trainers, and firearms, mongooses w/gas masks and crazy abominations like venustoise in the anime. So definitely not a sign of complete worldbuilding. As to that, its more like “You recieved a (whatever meat) from (whatever Pokémon) Fo special cases like Miltank and Slowpoke, “You recieved a tail/milk from Slowpoke/Miltank!” and not some kind of gen 1 dex/anime dogshit
Aand I realize Farigiraf is also a palindrome see: Ho-oh, Alomomola, Eevee, Girafarig and our newest addition, Farigiraf

 

[Worldie]

As for my wild guess... The final starter evos will be monotype so kids can just go unga bunga with Tera without fearing any consequence.

I would think opposite tbh, for one reason: I assume that the starter's Tera type will be fixed to their main type, so they can distribute the other type starter as event (maybe for Home compatibility).

Until DLC or 2nd version brings over a way to change / decide offspring tera type... well that may also just be in the game right away but I wouldnt bet on it.


Thinking of it, something I am curious of is how Tera type will work with breeding... random? Fixed? Inherit from parents? Inherit from father? (that would actually be a interesting and creative way to get other tera types without catching)