SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

[TheMantyke]

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Khu has posted his new dex images and Home transfers.

Huh! Wow, I wasn't too far off with my home predictions back in June of this year... except they went and gave us waaaay more Pokemon that we got post dex in SWSH. In my more conservative list, all I missed were the Sinnoh starters and some Sinnoh Mythics being neglected. Surprised to see the genies all get in on the ground floor to complete that family with Enamorus, but for the other starters from the Hisuian starter cycle to get neglected. I guess adding 3 Pokemon is a lot easier than adding 18 Pokemon, though.

With this information, I believe this is the list of absentee species from any HD main series game...

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• Snivy
• Servine
• Serperior
• Tepig
• Pignite
• Emboar
• Patrat
• Watchog
• Pansage
• Simisage
• Pansear
• Simisear
• Panpour
• Simipour
• Blitzle
• Zebstrika
• Sewaddle
• Swadloon
• Leavanny
• Ducklett
• Swanna
• Furfrou
• Pikipek
• Trumbeak
• Toucannon
• Minior

Kinda interesting what the list of Pokemon not in any switch games yet looks like. Serperior, Emboar, the elemental monkeys, Sewaddle, Blitzle... hmmm, I wonder what they're planning? :^)

(also, those last three gen 6-7 families at the bottom better be included in DLC or they're super boned and have to wait until gen 10 lol)

 

[Peaches144]

I checked the spreadsheet a bit ago and they've removed stats for starters and paradox so rn we don't have stats for anything

Nvm, they're back. May have been just me who couldn't see them.

 

[DreamPrince]

Huh! Wow, I wasn't too far off with my home predictions back in June of this year... except they went and gave us waaaay more Pokemon that we got post dex in SWSH. In my more conservative list, all I missed were the Sinnoh starters and some Sinnoh Mythics being neglected. Surprised to see the genies all get in on the ground floor to complete that family with Enamorus, but for the other starters from the Hisuian starter cycle to get neglected. I guess adding 3 Pokemon is a lot easier than adding 18 Pokemon, though.

With this information, I believe this is the list of absentee species from any HD main series game...

Hide

• Snivy
• Servine
• Serperior
• Tepig
• Pignite
• Emboar
• Patrat
• Watchog
• Pansage
• Simisage
• Pansear
• Simisear
• Panpour
• Simipour
• Blitzle
• Zebstrika
• Sewaddle
• Swadloon
• Leavanny
• Ducklett
• Swanna
• Furfrou
• Pikipek
• Trumbeak
• Toucannon
• Minior

Kinda interesting what the list of Pokemon not in any switch games yet looks like. Serperior, Emboar, the elemental monkeys, Sewaddle, Blitzle... hmmm, I wonder what they're planning? :^)

(also, those last three gen 6-7 families at the bottom better be included in DLC or they're super boned and have to wait until gen 10 lol)

Not to mention the vast majority are from Gen 5.

 

[Melons-N-Soda]

Kinda interesting what the list of Pokemon not in any switch games yet looks like. Serperior, Emboar, the elemental monkeys, Sewaddle, Blitzle... hmmm, I wonder what they're planning? :^)

(also, those last three gen 6-7 families at the bottom better be included in DLC or they're super boned and have to wait until gen 10 lol)

Its probably me huffing copium but I still think there's a chance Feraligatr, Meganium, Emboar, Serperior, Primarina, and Incineroar will be added through DLC. Incineroar is a huge mon in VGC play so unless they want to retire it for just one gen its likely at least he and Primarina will come back.

Venusaur and Blastoise too given that's what they did in SwSh.

 

[Perriechu]

Potential Dudunsparce stats, given middling IVs;

115 / 90 / 75 / 80 / 75 / 45 (480)

Seems to be the realm of what it will have, maybe a bit less on the special offenses/defenses, i just assume roughly 20 IVs in each but the total BST is probably right giving it a +65 bst from base form.

 

[Missingno.1998]

Two Segment Dudunsparce’s stats, freshly caught, Jolly
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Someone do the math!

Edit: thank you!

 

[Spyro]

Is heavy duty boots in the game?

 

[Soulja]

Potential Dudunsparce stats, given middling IVs;

115 / 90 / 75 / 80 / 75 / 45 (480)

Seems to be the realm of what it will have, maybe a bit less on the special offenses/defenses, i just assume roughly 20 IVs in each but the total BST is probably right giving it a +65 bst from base form.

I also decided to do the math, its stats are somewhere between 113-128 HP, 85-100 Atk, 70-85 Def, 80-96 SpAtk, 73-88 SpDef, and 39-55 Speed.

Your guess sounds about right I'd say.

 

[DHR-107]

Story stuff

My bad, I guess I just assumed. Might have to avoid the thread then.

Please move story discussion to this thread:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scarlet-and-violet-gameplay-story-leaks.3710528/

I will go back through this thread and move all the posts about story there and update the OP here. I didn't expect so much story stuff to some so fast.

How long until a datamine?

We do not know. I have heard a number of people repeating that GameFreak have changed how things work with their encryption so it is taking longer than usual. On top of this, our traditional miners are not releasing information until release day.

 

[Perriechu]

The way Scarlet is slowly winning the battle between which is the better version based on designs.. someone was able to hack in their Koraidon to be shiny.

 

[Peaches144]

Is there any footage of paradox Pokémon in motion? Specifically the future ones?

 

[Breadboy]

Potential Dudunsparce stats, given middling IVs;

115 / 90 / 75 / 80 / 75 / 45 (480)

Seems to be the realm of what it will have, maybe a bit less on the special offenses/defenses, i just assume roughly 20 IVs in each but the total BST is probably right giving it a +65 bst from base form.

Oh, that's... not spectacular...

H-Hopefully 3 segment means better stats?

 

[Perriechu]

Is there any footage of paradox Pokémon in motion? Specifically the future ones?

Scarlet has been the only game to be dumped, so until Violet does which should be soon, we only have Koraidon and the Ancient Pokemon for now

 

[Yung Dramps]

Kingambitchads

 

[Imperial Magala]

He stands

 

[Count Bleck]

Oh, that's... not spectacular...

H-Hopefully 3 segment means better stats?

It gets Coil and Roost, so it has good old stall potential.

 

[R_N]

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He stands

mom says its my turn to use the xbox

 

[khlaylav]

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Kingambitchads

I can unironically picture myself playing an action game, opening a door, seeing this beast get up, and know I'm about to get ROCKED.

 

[Amamama]

It gets Coil and Roost, so it has good old stall potential.

Roost is only 5pp now sow stall and bulky boosters are pretty nerfed.

 

[The Crusade]

Hyper Beam clones, can u check if they operate like Gigaton

 

[Perriechu]

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He stands

it has a big ass tail as well?????

 

[Fusion Flare]

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The way Scarlet is slowly winning the battle between which is the better version based on designs.. someone was able to hack in their Koraidon to be shiny.

you just wait until they show off miraidon. we’ll win this war violetbros

 

[TheMantyke]

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He stands

 

[Eriorguez]

Potential Dudunsparce stats, given middling IVs;

115 / 90 / 75 / 80 / 75 / 45 (480)

Seems to be the realm of what it will have, maybe a bit less on the special offenses/defenses, i just assume roughly 20 IVs in each but the total BST is probably right giving it a +65 bst from base form.

So it evolved to be weaker than stuff that is evolving that very same year...

 

[Peaches144]

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Whew, idk if I could have handled a VGC meta where we fired alternating Hyper Beam clones every turn w/o having to rest.