tommy also goes in the scumread pile actually
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my phone is destroying the discourseIn that case I disagree and think it could look planned
i thought that m2h's point about that backup role not really being a ``safe`` claim made a lot of sense and occam's razor tells me they both seem more villager than not given how it happened + a few other things atm
im curious your overall impression of m2h's play this game
that's interesting
i thought the exact same thing as their interaction went on lol
mr celever look at me and shane mindmelding.. do better <33
i can buy this and I found some of the objections to what I wrote minorly confusing for sure
The real answer wrt my overall impression of M2H’s play this game is my ADHD was popping off yesterday (and kinda this morning too) and my working memory is worse than usual which also includes all of your brain’s linguistic skills
Which is to say that I don’t have much of an impression on her rn idk what the pings have averaged out to rn
For clarity last game M2H used faulty mech again (she was dead certain that a JOAT wouldn’t dupe a role that’s on its same faction which just isn’t the case) so I might be slightly biased with treating her mech discussion on absorber, but I think she might be utilising that precedent to push faulty mech again (because she was town last game and happened to be right about the JOAT’s alignment lol)
i see
i melded most of her early reads and what she said usually made sense to me so I just townleaned her
i think the likelier scenario is either she and neon are both town or she's just spewing him town as mafia for some cred
one thing I found weird was her having a fos on genisu but then picking apart my post on him with moon logic, i don't understand what that was about
thats actually one of the reasons i thought marth came off better, felt like he was pushing a genuine read
i thought he made some iioa posts and the reads he brought to the table were kinda uninteresting
he asks for someone to elaborate on their townread on laurel and then posts his own independent townread on laurel before he gets a response. his townread on laurel itself is alright but i dont see why he'd ask about it instead of assuming it's a meld or something, that felt out of place
i thought he gave too much credence to helldooms thoughts on me and he portrayed my post inaccurately (though that could be a misunderstanding)
i need to see the reasoning behind him voting flanders when he did, would like to know
yeah he's pretty unashamed of just baldly stating how he feels and I'm not someone who's really easy to push on so i thought it looked fine from him
the progression towards him feeling sussed out on me after having a suspicious feeling that genisu is lhf makes sense
don't really like the reasons he came up with but that post felt like he had the feeling first and was trying to explain it after, i don't think the explanation ended up adequate but i can see how he got there and that it was very stream of consciousness
the reality is that he just thinks I'm trying to take control of the game and trying to kill lhf, fair enough
i found clouds agreeing with it more perturbing
i feel like this isn't so reasonable
hedging on genisu is whatever, i wish he said something more interesting about it
i disagree entirely about what he said about flanders, and i think Flanders' vote is very emotionally driven and real
yea clouds felt like more trying to subtly undermine you in addition to like 90% of his content being just bouncing off other ppl i feel
also did he go into his vote on flanders anywhere?
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I kind of forgot to unvote ##Unvote
- So far Flanders gives me town vibes, pretty consistent with last game behavior.
- Saber and Neon... I really don't know and won't be trying too hard to read those slots in the near future.
- Jalmont is acting different than last game start. Last game he was mafia so that would be a good thing however I think it's similar to d2 where things started going south for mafia so... I don't know what to make it out of it.
- I like Duskfall and Clouds so far even if they don't align with each other views.
- So far Flanders gives me town vibes, pretty consistent with last game behavior.
- Saber and Neon... I really don't know and won't be trying too hard to read those slots in the near future.
- Jalmont is acting different than last game start. Last game he was mafia so that would be a good thing however I think it's similar to d2 where things started going south for mafia so... I don't know what to make it out of it.
- I like Duskfall and Clouds so far even if they don't align with each other views.
- Genisu and Laurel were acting suspicious at the start, specially Genisu. In laurel case it can be that he truly didn't know about the setup info. I didn't know a lot of things last game so I won't push this one for that. Genisu behavior seems counterproductive from a town viewpoint so he's probably the best push so far. First time playing with them though so I don't know their experience or previous behavior.
- I feel like blue comments are either spot on with my thoughts or complete 180º never middle ground, I find it funny. Null spot for now.
- M2H and Shane are giving me the same vibes that I had last game with M2h and Celever being one of them scum (Celever), and I was right.
- HH, Joey, A fairy, Celever and Pulsar... some of them have a decent amount of post but I don't know what to think yet.
- I feel like blue comments are either spot on with my thoughts or complete 180º never middle ground, I find it funny. Null spot for now.
- M2H and Shane are giving me the same vibes that I had last game with M2h and Celever being one of them scum (Celever), and I was right.
- HH, Joey, A fairy, Celever and Pulsar... some of them have a decent amount of post but I don't know what to think yet.
to be clear i only think this because it's specifically a newer player who has not rolled scum yet iirc
My "faulty mech" last game was spot on. My "faulty mech" this game is likely spot on.
So my position is this: A couple of posts before your quote block about genisu, you said that you were going to post a bunch explaining a lot of your reads, but the follow up of that was a laser focus on genisu. Now this could've(and I'm sure from your perspective) likely been because you had a headache at the time of that post, however you have to admit from an outside perspective it looks agenda heavy at first glance, yeah? For me it was the lack of an actual follow up + voting at what I thought was a convenient time.
I think the second post that you quoted is classically scummy yeah, but fwiw, Jalmont hasn't defended him nor has he really scumread people against genisu? I guess he voted you but then he unvoted without any explanation so dunno if it counts.
For the third part, I'm going to preface this by saying my read is coloured by my experience w/ him in other non-mafia games(we've played a multifaction mafia game together and a free for all game with alliance building stuff). I think trying to vote neon off because he had beef with his game from a past game is within his line of thought as either alignment; a town!genisu that legit thinks that neon's game is bad for town fully believes in taking that beef and voting him. asking people to claim in the thread is because he literally hosted the previous game where town won by massclaiming, so I would totally buy a town!genisu wanting people to claim thinking that it can break the game.
Where I agree with you is that unvoting because his scumreads pressure him to do so looks bad; but that's the thing: I think his lack of self-awareness comes from town and not mafia. I'd personally think that newb!scum are a lot more self-conscious and worried about what they say a lot more.