NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

saber very likely got a protect off last night as martyr, the most likely person he would've died protecting is jalmont based off d1
I think that’s a mad hasty conclusion to come to, and I also don’t think saber would actually try to eat the kill tbh lol (nor would he have the context to target the obvious target in JALMONT based on him not having read a lot of the thread, maybe he caught up overnight but idk how likely I find that)
 
its awful fmpov if we keep a jalmont/pulsar eod wagon, people are still on the jalmont stuff d2, and we dont even massclaim to solve the slot when I have a literal JALMONT: MAFIA/PR read. i wanted to solve the slot, and the threadstate was awful, and people didnt commit to the move that would resolve it in a healthier way so yeah I had to force the claim. if i don't we might have ended with a tied vote, or people might have actual voted jalmont out. much messier eod. ofc my ideal was people put the jalmont stuff off till d2 and we massclaim then.
lol i just discovered you are mafia
 
then why did you wagon him instead of switching to pulsar when you were voting him as tied wagon?

you had the power to take him off lead wagon, it felt like your play was completely opposite in action to what you were getting mad at in last 5 minutes

if you got him as pr then cool wp, but you could've put pulsar as first but instead you voted him eod, asked others to vote him to bait claims but you also didn't want him to claim?
Tommy you did the exact same thing as m2h at eod what exactly are you concerned about
 
Show me something that show's it's standard. You could just be 3P saying this to throw off the mechsolve

if I am lying, an experienced person would call me out immediately

the most standard mafia game setups are either 13/4 or 10/3, if there was only a 3 mafia team in a 17 person game it would be a very small team balance wise
 
any group of 4 - 6 posters is likely to have a wolf in it automatically just by virtue of math on the rand so that isn't really saying much

nor was i pushing on celever just because je brought up the oligarchy, the points he made within his statements just didn't add up
Considering the stuff you don’t think added up were all the oligarchy stuff this is a really weak point

Esp with you otherwise portraying your EoD wagon as being good for wagonomics and not necessarily me being scummy, you picking this push up again today just means I was right about you trying to prime me.

Really not as convinced you’re town as I was based on last EoD and your D2 opening
 
Considering the stuff you don’t think added up were all the oligarchy stuff this is a really weak point

Esp with you otherwise portraying your EoD wagon as being good for wagonomics and not necessarily me being scummy, you picking this push up again today just means I was right about you trying to prime me.

Really not as convinced you’re town as I was based on last EoD and your D2 opening
i said you were a wolf yesterday when i voted you, this is nonsense
 
if I am lying, an experienced person would call me out immediately

the most standard mafia game setups are either 13/4 or 10/3, if there was only a 3 mafia team in a 17 person game it would be a very small team balance wise
what would the standard numbers be for 3p games? idrk anything about balance so is 13-3-1 unrealistic
Well speak of the devil
 
Tommy you did the exact same thing as m2h at eod what exactly are you concerned about

it's not the play, it's getting mad and blaming everyone for you ending up claiming, after forcing you to claim and then claiming that they knew you were strong pr

I take responsibility for my read on you being off, but i stand by the mechanics and i think the fact you probably were saved last night backs that up

btw your reaction in last 5 minutes suggested you expected me to know you're a strong pr, but I'll be honest I really was just reading your stuborness as disagreeing with how we play

you say stuff like we should no vote D1 etc every game so I didn't see any difference this time in that regard
 
JALMONT why do you think a fairy is scum btw?
Her pivot to voting me was extremely scummy and nonsensical. Basically said nothing about me for half the day then said she wanted to vote me, waited for other people to wagon and then voted me for no stated reason. Attacking m2h as a way to attack me was also a bad look

I do need to look into af/celly interactions a bit more
JALMONT who did you vig at last night?
You’ll have to wagon me again to find out. Maybe I know what happened! Maybe I don’t! Maybe I am lying this whole time and fakeclaimed vig!
 
what would the standard numbers be for 3p games? idrk anything about balance so is 13-3-1 unrealistic

I'd say if you're putting 3p in, you usually add on a number to the 13 or 17, or you run like a 15er or something (it does depend on town and mafia relative role power too)
 
what would the standard numbers be for 3p games? idrk anything about balance so is 13-3-1 unrealistic

it's not impossible if mafia have reaaaaalllly strong roles but it would be definitely hard to balance that if you're giving every town member a pr because they are going to be strong no matter what you do, it would be more manageable in a low power game than role madness or a game with vanillas say
 
You’ll have to wagon me again to find out. Maybe I know what happened! Maybe I don’t! Maybe I am lying this whole time and fakeclaimed vig!

Jesus christ dude I was defending you at eod harder than practically anybody else. I trust your vig claim. I may have a red depending on what you say. c'mon man.
 
i thought about how your reads have developed and the threadstate stuff you're posting and i don't really believe it's game solving, it just feels like pushing for certain outcomes
And here’s where that “scumread” is all just to do with the oligarchy stuff, which a fairy just said

You said I’m a wolf once but the rest of your content isn’t what you said it was. Fence sitting. If I died and flipped town you’d also have loads of posts to say “oh well I was just doing it cos he was a good secondary wagon with JALMONT”, like here:
celever vs. jalmont would be a good wagon battle i'm not too hurt about either of them flipping over and theres lots of information to be had either way
other options we have to move to are pulsar, tommy, genisu, and joey just because of how many votes they already have but all of those elims feel like such a waste of time now (except genisu but i think he's villa at this point)
it’s not exactly a scumread, and these are the posts you made right after the one you quoted where you said I was a wolf
 
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