for being one of the most bafflingly silly, common sense breaking, basic logic defying statements I've ever had the displeasure of reading in my 15+ years in this franchise. Really? The reason ice types are late game is because freeze, the status with ZERO (yes count them, zero) ways to reliably be inflicted is the reason? Is that why in almost every game, grass types that can learn sleep moves at an early level are available near the beginning? Surely it has nothing to do with ice's near universally strong offensive matchups vs common in game types such as birds, standard rock/grounds, and grasses, or the design of the ice type Pokemon themselves. Thanks for the good laugh mate.not surprised, it might mean that this game will continue to have freeze instead of frostbite which is kind of expected but is nonetheless a huge tragedy. ive maintained this belief that ice types are often rare and reserved for lategame because of how broken freeze is as a status...
Well its clear that Terastal isn't natural just like Dynamax. Obviously can't say in what way it's not natural lorewise just yet, but the Tera Types don't indicate that something about the Pokemon's genetics means it was meant to be a certain Type, otherwise a Pokemon would only be able to Terastallize into Types its final evo could be.The idea of Flareon becoming a Water type just sounds wrong from a lore standpoint.
Okay, maybe Koraidon might be 90/100, though Miraidon has a jet engine which brings to mind the Eon Duo who both have a Speed of 110.In all seriousness, we’ve already got Wyrdeer (base 65 Speed), Basculegion (base 78 Speed) and Braviary-H (base 80 Speed). Also, it’s right around Sharpedo (base 95) and Charizard (base 100).
Also just because Ubers has a slower overall Speed tier doesn’t necessarily mean 90 base Speed is particularly slow.
Um, we complain and joke about the graphics all the time. But the issue is GF don't seem to think its a top priority and GF are very selective hearers, if they listen to the playerbase at all. They're not only the highest grossing media franchise but also their offices are now right across from Nintendo's HQ, there is no reason they can't hire more or just walk across the street to borrow some developers from Nintendo who are between projects/in early development of a project.and the fans' overall lack of standards is truly mystifying. You should expect MUCH better.
That subject has been talked to death. GF set their foot down, Limited Dex is staying (until they decide not to). The best we can hope for from Limited Dex is a better focus on the Pokemon which are present in the game. Improved Movepool, stat readjustments, slight chance of improving the animations (though they seem interested in only doing that for outside of battle *sigh* ).Don't even get me started on how they removed a significant amount of Pokemon (you know, the game's core content) from the game entirely and people just... don't seem to care anymore.
Okay, question: What do you want them to do?Or how they have not evolved the game's core gameplay loop of picking a super effective Pokemon and mashing A since the 1990s.
You don't sound like you like Pokemon that much, why are you on these forums?Part of me wants to encourage you all to "vote with your wallet" so to speak and not buy these games due to their appalling lack of quality and evidently rushed development, but I know that such a call to action would be entirely pointless. Pokemon fans have the worst case of "consumer brain" of perhaps any franchise on this earth.
You're joking right? You say this when The EA Sports games, all the cash grab gatcha games like Diablo Immortal, Michael Bay Transformer movies (and those are just the most notable I can think off the top of my head, Hollywood pushes out a lot of shlock films), and numerous music artists who push out an album have made hundreds of millions of dollars. This is far from a Pokemon problem.If other companies, whether it's gaming, film, music, etc, continued to pump out these sorry excuses for underdeveloped cash grabs every year, they would not only get lampooned, but I believe many people would stop buying them.
First off, WOW, 15 years with the franchise and someone just stating they think freeze is the worst status ailment & its why they think Ice-types are reserved late game is the worst thing you've ever read concerning Pokemon? Hyperbole much?for being one of the most bafflingly silly, common sense breaking, basic logic defying statements I've ever had the displeasure of reading in my 15+ years in this franchise. Really? The reason ice types are late game is because freeze, the status with ZERO (yes count them, zero) ways to reliably be inflicted is the reason?
Yes, but also no. The Blizzard weather is locked behind a bunch of badges, and the Ice Stone is late-game unless you get very lucky with the Dig Brothers(trust me, I've grinded for it, not fun). That sharply limits what ice-types are available. Plus most ice-types evolve in their 30s. Snorunt into Froslass or maybe Swinub are the only ones I'd say is reasonable to pick up before beating Kabu. Vanillite and Snover are available sooner than that, but have a miserable time for about 20 levels before evolving. And that's only if you are actually searching areas with Snow, if you don't have that, there's no ice-types at all*. Almost any other type has a lot more options that early.Yknow, when people say that you can't get early ice types, I feel they forgot you can get several ice types in SwSh as soon as you reach the wild area without even needing the DLCs
lmfao i dont get how you think this take is one of the most absurd takes over the countless sea of shills and turds wanting to defend gamefreaks every misstep with the franchise be it with the dex cut, move cut, removal of options such as the forced exp share and 20 minute battle timer, worse animations than the stadium games from 20 years ago, inability to skip dialogue when every jrpg these days lets you, and many more, of which you discuss in your own post. you acknowledge how the pokemon playerbase dont seem to remotely hold any high standards for one of the most profitable ips ever and will settle for mediocrity by eating up any game on release day regardless of how much effort was actually put into those games by the big guys knowing their consumer base well, but hey, i suppose a take not even discussing any of those issues is worth wanting to attack.However, I wanted to give special shoutouts to this post: for being one of the most bafflingly silly, common sense breaking, basic logic defying statements I've ever had the displeasure of reading in my 15+ years in this franchise. Really? The reason ice types are late game is because freeze, the status with ZERO (yes count them, zero) ways to reliably be inflicted is the reason? Is that why in almost every game, grass types that can learn sleep moves at an early level are available near the beginning? Surely it has nothing to do with ice's near universally strong offensive matchups vs common in game types such as birds, standard rock/grounds, and grasses, or the design of the ice type Pokemon themselves. Thanks for the good laugh mate.
Theoretically speaking, if you got an Eevee and managed to return enough parcels, you should have enough to get an Ice Stone from the trader at the beginning of the game as well.You can also get Johtonian Sneasel fairly early in Legends, right after you unlock Distortions, you'll just have to backtrack to Obsidian Fieldlands and hope you get a distortion soon
I'm not sure why they tend to keep Ice mons for very late game but I'm glad a few of them are breaking the mold now (And with SVbeing open world either way you can just go to the ice area right away)
Where do see defenders of that stuff?countless sea of shills and turds wanting to defend gamefreaks every misstep with the franchise be it with the dex cut, move cut, removal of options such as the forced exp share and 20 minute battle timer, worse animations than the stadium games from 20 years ago, inability to skip dialogue when every jrpg these days lets you, and many more, of which you discuss in your own post. you acknowledge how the pokemon playerbase dont seem to remotely hold any high standards for one of the most profitable ips ever and will settle for mediocrity by eating up any game on release day regardless of how much effort was actually put into those games by the big guys knowing their consumer base well, but hey, i suppose a take not even discussing any of those issues is worth wanting to attack.
Woah woah woah sir.you acknowledge how the pokemon playerbase dont seem to remotely hold any high standards for one of the most profitable ips ever and will settle for mediocrity by eating up any game on release day regardless of how much effort was actually put into those games by the big guys knowing their consumer base well, but hey, i suppose a take not even discussing any of those issues is worth wanting to attack.
I don't really want to get in the middle of this argument as it seems to be going nowhere quick. But this statement is pretty patently false: there are plenty of people who support Dexit in all it's forms. You only need to read the official Dexit thread to find people supporting it - and recently so. Most of the arguments there (both for and sometimes against) are exhausting to read, as that argument is running to a conclusion at the speed of plate tectonics. However, there are definitely many people who do in fact support Dexit.Dex Cut: No one likes the Dex Cut (or Limited Dex as I call it). The only things I can think that might have made you think that was around that time people were giving GF a lot of heat so some players began a counter campaign to thank GF for their work. There was also many who said the reason for the Limited Dex was because GF were being forced to make a game every year thus had to cut corners. None of these were in support of the Limited Dex, rather one was from the result of the anger at GF and the other more trying to explain why GF was doing it, though both groups would agree it stinks they did it.
I’d say most people are Dexit tolerators at best. The only argument that I have seen for Dexit support that isn’t just “I tolerate Dexit because X reason” is that it balances the game to remove some broken Pokemon and “I just don’t like X Pokemon”, and the former could be seen as just tolerating it since Pokemon could just rebalance Pokemon.I don't really want to get in the middle of this argument as it seems to be going nowhere quick. But this statement is pretty patently false: there are plenty of people who support Dexit in all it's forms. You only need to read the official Dexit thread to find people supporting it - and recently so. Most of the arguments there (both for and sometimes against) are exhausting to read, as that argument is running to a conclusion at the speed of plate tectonics. However, there are definitely many people who do in fact support Dexit.
indeedAlso shoutouts to Tera Flying Venomicon-Epilogue in particular for being one of the scariest Pokemon concepts I've ever heard.
This, on top of the fact that everyone usually assumes that you can decide "on the whim" what to Tera into, while in fact it works similarly to Hidden Power where it's predetermined and you can't on match by match basic decide if you want your Gardevoir to be Psychic or Fairy (or something else) Tera..snip.
i suppose it all may depend on the abusers in the end. for example venomicon with flying double-stab and tinted lens literally dont give a shit about anything. and other mons can easily take advantage of terastalize to break through its checks (will that pult remain a ghost/dragon? or will it turn into a fire-type and blast through my ferrothorn? maybe electric to burst past pex and fini?).Honestly I feel the opposite, the more I think about Tera the more it sounds actually kind of balanced and in huge part that's thanks to turning you monotype. "Free adaptability on any mon" may sound scary but you also have to commit to being a monotyped offensive mon while doing that, so you essentially trade losing one STAB for your other STAB being stronger. And while not every offensiev mon can use both of its STABs, not all of them would want to lose a secondary type either. Something like Lando only gets Ground STABs either way but would not really want to lose Flying. Say you tera your Gardevoir into being mono Fairy, suddenly some Poisons can take it on a little better thanks to Psychic no longer being STAB.
In this front I think its pretty interesting thatbeing monotyped tends to turn out better for defensive mons than for offensive ones. Sure there's a lot of really good defensive dual types, but stuff like Grass, Poison, Water, Fairy, Steel, Flying, Normal or Ground all work perfectly fine defensively as monotypes.
Plus while technically "any mon can turn into any type", there will definitely be prefered types for some mons, namely movepool. No reason to turn your Arcanine into a Rock type if it gets no Rock STAB, for instance. I'd assume most cases where one mon turns into atera type that doesn't match its original type, it'd be hugely dependant on what that mon's movepool is and what matchups its trying to break past. So I think that while technically any mon could turn to any type, after the meta settles you'd have an idea of what type each mon is popularly running and just build around that.
Its obviously too early to be sure but this all kinda feels like a more balanced version of Z-Moves to me, and the fact there's actual defensive aplications to this already makes it more balanced at least than Dynamax and Z-Moves imo
It's a good thing that venomicon-e doesn't exist in the real game hehalthough, i do now see it more as a balanced version ofn z-moves. i suppose i was initially tilted by venomicon-e who has tinted lens and so frankly don't care about anything anymore if it gets double stab.
For what matters, as of now not even leakers know (or if they do, they haven't said) how many types a given poke can Tera into.I'm avoiding lEaKs like the plague so I don't get either lied to or spoiled before I can play it) would have no reason to have any other Tera types besides Electric.
Well that can't possibly be right Eterantus was like 95 base spe--what do you mean it was 130How are you guys guessing that these legendaries will be 110 speed at best when Zamazenta-C was 128 last gen, and it was the slowest of that trio lol
Mainly because "speed" doesn't translate directly to actual speed stat in Pokemon.How are you guys guessing that these legendaries will be 110 speed at best when Zamazenta-C was 128 last gen, and it was the slowest of that trio lol
Called it from way back. I'll add that Shift Gear is a legit possibility for both legendaries since the only box art legendaries that both lean heavily towards min-max attacks are the Swsh duo.If the legendaries do become mounts, do you think they might appear earlier in the game in some less powerful form or evolution, or are we riding other Pokemon or vehicles in the meanwhile?