GatoDelFuego
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  • I feel like expectations for James Cameron are way too high because literally like 80% of his movies have been literally revolutionary. That's a hard thing to keep going, especially with 4 more Avatars being made back to back. Will there even be enough time for change?
    GatoDelFuego
    GatoDelFuego
    I think they'll be alright
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    I'm sure they'll be fine but the question is I think everyone expects everything James Cameron makes to be literally revolutionary. Which is not quite the same as just good tho
    With all the Holocaust/WWII stories there are, there's an idea that I'm interested in that I can't seem to find.. One from the POV of a Nazi officer after WWII has already ended. Like what do you even do after that (if you weren't tried as a war criminal). Like just reintegrating to society. Especially if he is one of the just-taking-orders guys who has a ton of guilt for what he's done.
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    I feel like it would be hard to sympathize with them though, and then be objectionable if you did make them sympathetic with no remorse.

    I think Inglorious Basterds did a good job making nazi officers sympathetic but even that was from the perspective of the allies
    GatoDelFuego
    GatoDelFuego
    ok. In saving private ryan or american sniper or hacksaw ridge or something they do a great job of not making you sympathize with the american soldiers. Like when they shoot the czech people at normandy. This is why I hate war movies, because they're always like "war is super hell. Nobody is a good guy. Isn't this a SHOCK!!!!!! NO movie has ever said this before!!".

    I just want that exact carbon copy movie, but from the perspective of 4 german boys in the battle of the bulge. Or attacking stalingrad or something. No grand political theory about the jews or something, just 4 ordinary people being forced to fight in this war for their country.
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    Yeah but I think there's a slight difference between "these people you thought were good weren't ALL good, not everything is black and white!" and "you should like these people who are fighting for the side of evil"

    what I mean is I think people do consider things to be black and white, they just want the characters to be "complex" though
    Take, for example: “It’s the good advice that you just didn’t take.” This is the vaguest line in the song, and it seems to pose a challenge to the ironist. Presumably the situational irony here is that the listener didn’t expect the advice to apply, whereas it did indeed. But why didn’t “you” take the advice?
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    It’s possible that you thought the advice-giver was being ironic, and didn’t intend for you to heed the advice. Or you simply thought that the advice wasn’t “good” when it was; either way you don’t take it “seriously.” In fact that word, “seriously,” haunts the end of the lyric; the irony here is one of (mis)interpretation. Paul de Man addresses this difficulty of interpretation in his essay “The Concept of Irony” (not to be confused with Kierkegaard’s book of the same name): “what is at stake in irony is the possibility of understanding, the possibility of reading, the readability of texts, the possibility of deciding on A meaning or on a multiple set of meanings or on a controlled polysemy of meanings.” Doesn’t Alanis provide the perfect example of living in a world where we’re unsure of what to take seriously, and what not to? And who, really, would have thought it figures?
    GatoDelFuego
    GatoDelFuego
    hahahaha destroyed
    GatoDelFuego
    GatoDelFuego
    ^ironic comment btw
    Smith kinda did implement "creativity" when he tried to sacrifice himself to kill Neo via the oncoming train















    but he was somewhat rogue already, so
    GatoDelFuego
    GatoDelFuego
    Let me rephrase this.
    this PLAYS while I have sex.
    oh and im a dude.
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    GatoDelFuego
    GatoDelFuego
    I don't think it was a sacrifice. I think it was a taunt. He could have just kept punching neo and he would have killed him. He wanted to make a statement, like you said specifically because he was already rogue.
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    yeah taunting is kinda against the agent programming too isn't it? though the other guy did say only human

    maybe part of the upgrades was getting rid of that stuff
    btw it was actually "New Nightmare" that was when the horror movie monster came to real life and haunted the cast and crew. Human Centipede did it too but it's not what I had heard about
    GatoDelFuego
    GatoDelFuego
    Nice dude. I'm happy for you. This was a big mystery
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    yeah I'm glad too
    Saw a dude with a shirt that said "I died historic on the Fury Road and all I got was this mediocre shirt"
    isn't ever story ever a 3-act structure? if you take 3 acts to just mean Premise - Complication - Resolution

    like how does Shakespeare get off making all his plays 5 acts when they really follow the 3 act structure just like everything else. I assume an act in theater is different than just the general "act" then? Even though they come from the theater anyway
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    . i need attention
    GatoDelFuego
    GatoDelFuego
    look dude. I've been so busy these past weeks. I finally had a day off to finish fusion. And I really didn't have anything to say. You answered yoru own question
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    No I didn't but sorry
    What's your opinion on DragonForce's new singer
    GatoDelFuego
    GatoDelFuego
    no opinion
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    his voice is too whiny imo


    it's funny that the original singer left because of creative musical differences



    aka maybe they wanted all their songs to keep sounding the same and he didn't :thinking:
    I think this is an interesting direction that Star Trek has taken. I don't get all the hate, though I do suspect it has to do with the casual racism of the viewership, seeing how an African American woman is a central character. I hope that the writers are not discouraged, however bad the racism may get, to go on and develop this arch.
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    it's not a popular one. I was just watching one of the videos the Star Trek YouTube channel uploaded and it was there. The dude had a Gandalf avatar too and I think his name was something the Grey
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    Most people are upset that this looks like a war series. In the style of the reboot films (which I do like). And they dislike that it's a prequel when Star Trek should be about moving on into the future.

    And the fact that Spock had an adopted sister is really weird. But I'll reserve judgment on that until I see how they handle it.
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    oh also the fact that it's not even gonna be on tv
    what are some good prequels in your opinion? stuff I don't know about, I know about Hobbit, Apes, Star Wars, Alien





    some people say Temple of Doom is a prequel but it really isn't. It's just a story that takes place before Raiders. It doesn't really connect with it at all. So much that you can watch it and not even realize it takes place before.
    GatoDelFuego
    GatoDelFuego
    I can't think of any others you didn't name.
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    maybe the Wan episodes on Legend of Korra. It was nice because they were so far removed from the current plot.


    My hypothesis: prequels can work for characters that are static in their original appearances. Think like Obi-Wan. A prequel with Luke wouldn't work, because the story would end with him growing up to be a whiny boy. But by Ep 4, Obi-Wan has already done all his growing. So we can go back and see him grow to be that character. Same with Darth Vader I guess.

    Also worked on Fargo
    GatoDelFuego
    GatoDelFuego
    Good point
    I walked to the bathroom and I passed these two girls talking and I heard one of them say "she has notifications on for Chris Evans' twitter and she'll stop the class to read a tweet if she gets a notification"
    okay here are my thoughts on the question you asked me a while ago
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    I wish you saw Jurassic World dude lol

    we should drunk watch it together
    GatoDelFuego
    GatoDelFuego
    add it to the list I guess. I am SO HYPER BUSY this week it's not even funny. Maybe in like 4 weeks I'll be free like forever.
    Hulavuta
    Hulavuta
    oknice
    if Luke's father is from Tatooine and his mother is from Naboo, does that make him a Tatooinee or a Naboobian?
    In Spy Kids 3 when The Dinkster lassos the robot he says "Game Over for you, pal, Game Over"

    this seems to be an Aliens reference





    also the title of the movie is called Game Over
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