Wait, the same Blake Griffin that the Pistons acquired from the Clippers? In that rip-off where they traded Avery Bradley, Tobias Harris, Boban Marjanovic, and two draft picks for him? Despite his 5-year, $173M contract and injury history? The Wolves at least drafted KAT (and desperate traded Kevin Love for... fuckin Andrew Wiggins) and the Suns drafted Booker. The Pistons drafted Greg Monroe, Brandon Knight, Andre Drummond, and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope in consecutive years, followed by Stanley Johnson after a gap year in which they attached their pick to dump Ben Gordon. That's just ass management. So ye I have to give the Wolves and Suns the edge here for at least being able to draft some promising players and keeping them. The Pistons are actively making garbage ass trades and draft selections, or they're just bad at developing said players. Or both.for me it's less that the west is a better conference and more that there's just more talented players there - on a holistic assessment the pistons are probably about as well-run as the suns or the wolves except the wolves have kat and the suns have dbook and the pistons have...an injured blake griffin.
How are the Nuggets "unproven" but the Heat are "rapidly blossoming", the Jazz "have no superstar" but the Celtics are "consistently excellent", and the Rockets "spent the last five years inventing new ways to choke elimination games" while you've seemingly forgotten about LeBronto?maybe less relevant to the argument but in comparison to the west the east is certainly top heavy - the west's 3rd best team is either the young and unproven nuggets, the jazz who have no superstar and some noticeable holes, and the rockets who've spend the last five years inventing new ways to choke elimination games (and I'm not 100% sure that the clippers aren't somewhere in this category as opposed to being a top 2 team). this against the east who has a rapidly blossoming miami, a consistently excellent boston, a toronto team that's somehow looking to pull off a title defense despite kawhi leaving and a milwaukee thats gunning for a 70 win season (which you can't get to solely by beating up weak teams and that kinda nulls the 'the bucks are only doing well bc hurr the east is bad' as if they haven't kicked the shit out of virtually every good team in the west as well).
you're not wrong either idt - there's a bunch of weird dynamics between the conferences that make it hard to chart this stuff year in year out but I stand by my takes more or less (for example we can all agree that the east was in shambles in 2018 but the following year saw 3 potential superteams + the celtics in the east, while the warriors established themselves as head and shoulders above the rest of the west only to fall in the finals, yeah injuries but I truly believe they lose even if everyone on their roster but kd was healthy and kd turned them from alltime great team into a literal cheat code so its all fair).How are the Nuggets "unproven" but the Heat are "rapidly blossoming", the Jazz "have no superstar" but the Celtics are "consistently excellent", and the Rockets "spent the last five years inventing new ways to choke elimination games" while you've seemingly forgotten about LeBronto?
I'm not saying you're wrong about those West teams, and I agree that the East is top-heavy, but the East teams aren't really much better even though you're putting it in a nicer way. The Heat sure as hell have not been tested whatsoever, the Celtics were a total mess last season with Kyrie and let's not forget "wait for summer, Pelicans, Tatum will be available!!", and "this year is different for the Raptors!" during the DeRozan era.
I agree with you on the Celtics, but to me they're more the "blossoming" team vs the Heat. Not really anything worth debating, though.anyways that's beside the point I think - the celtics had back to back conference finals appearances and made the second round last year despite the complete collapse of their locker room, and tatum is looking more and more like he could be the guy. I may have overrated the heat but jimmy is at least somewhat proven and the rest of the team looks solid (although their future contender status prob hinges on who they sign w all that cap space). as much as lebronto was a thing it was lowry and derozan against easily the best player of this generation, whereas the rockets had two superstars and a scheme crafted specifically to beat golden state and still lost over and over again (yeah I know I called golden state a cheat code but the rockets g6 losses in 2017 and 2019 were just really bad looks. certainly the raptors are not losing to cleveland if lebron's out with an injury).
for the west...the nuggets by contrast have one postseason appearance in recent memory where they lost to a shorthanded blazers outfit and arguably they're due for regression. the jazz have had their down year but I'm not quite certain they've bounced back enough, and I don't think I need to write an essay on all the ways the rockets could collapse under themselves. there's also little to no room for these teams to grow without internal jumps while both toronto and miami are openly gearing up for 2021 free agency to augment their existing cores (and boston can prob make a run at somebody too with hayward coming off the books). forgive me for assuming that the west is overly stagnant by comparison bc there are certainly exciting young teams there, it's just that the east's exciting young teams are already in the championship mix.
anyways this is kind of a silly argument, and it is certainly fair to assume that maybe the east's best teams are boosted by the bottom half of the conference being worthless (the magic are only decent because they've drafted and scrounged too many solid players to outright collapse like the 7 teams beneath them, although I think the nets deserve the benefit of the doubt considering the turnaround sean marks has pulled off) but at the same time the eye test and the stats seem to validate the east's upper crust ahead of the west's, and the milwaukee - toronto axis looks like a more convincing conference top2 than the la teams. but again this years playoffs could prove me completely wrong, who knows. should be interesting anyways I think.
The East is still better with 6 solid teams with some flaws than last years ago where we had only Cavs with LeBron and Celtics. Bottom 8 teams in East are so bad, Nets will be a good team with KD and Kyrie next season.Like everyone else said, the East is full of shitty organizations.
The Knicks are the Knicks.
The Cavs can't win without LeBron.
The Hornets, Pistons, and Wizards can't draft for shit.
The Magic are obsessed with drafting centers.
The Nets have been a dumpster fire for most of the 2010s.
The Bulls got lucky with the players they got and they still ruined their chances thanks to GarPax.
Tell me again that the East isn't weak competition?
He's good for some instant offense off the bench but again he requires the ball in his hands to be effective. What the jazz need are another spot up shooter or someone who can run around screens and pin downs and pull up for a quick shot. Of course every team in the league wants more of those so good luck with that at this point in the season.Former Laker Jordan Clarkson's been a good pick up for them though.
This sucks. All of it. NBA teams playing in empty arenas. MLB teams playing in empty stadiums. March Madness playing without fans. All of it sucks and makes sports as a whole incredibly depressing. I can't even imagine a buzzer beater 3 for the win and the upset in March happening with zero crowd reaction. It's a horrifying thought, although I can understand the reasons, it doesn't make it any less depressing
And now the entire season has been suspended indefinitely.
Gobert's DPOY = Dumbest Player of the Year after his comments making light of the virus. Hope he never lives this down. Also fuck China for starting this whole mess
I don't even know what to think anymore. This past week has been so terrifying and depressing. My university is sending all the students home for spring break and transitioning to only online classes. I take online classes anyways but fuck man.Rest of the NBA season has been suspended with Gobert testing positive for coronavirus
Sure, but your personal hygiene is only as good as the people around you in the case of something as contagious as thisIt's highly contagious but not really that deadly. Obviously it sucks to be sick and you don't want it to spread, but taking the right measures and maintaining personal hygiene should be enough to not get the virus.