2v2 2v2 Doubles

[turtalkatthing]

Lost to Ninjawarrior7778 in the tiebreaker. GGs

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1101309309

 

[Kowasabii]

lkjc and monsa arent replying, so do we start calling for act wins or is there still more time

 

[ArcticBreeze]

lkjc and monsa arent replying, so do we start calling for act wins or is there still more time

1. It doesnt madder I qualified as I beat everyone in the pool
2. If monsa is me I already played you lmao

 

[Ninjawarrior7778]

Lost the tiebreaker against partchandelure (partman) gg
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1102161121

 

[Mubs]

next round for playing

(Winner of PartMan vs D2TheW) vs Monsareeasy

Here are the new VR Changes:​

Changes to VR:

Braviary B -> B+

New Rankings:

Sableye: A-
Barraskewda: C
Primarina: B-
Duraludon: B-
Rotom-Mow: B-
Dusclops: B
Pincurchin: C
Raichu-Alola: C+
Snorlax: B+
Terrakion: C
Gigalith: B-
Stonjourner: C
Haxorus: C+
Kyurem: B-
Ninetales-Alola: C+
Passimian: B-
Sawk: B-
Malamar: C+

Votings in Pending:

Blastoise

This slate was primarily based on Ranking new mons, so expect some more changes soon. Thank you all for taking the time to write nominations.

On the topic of our circuit, the SM 2v2 tour is unfortunately delayed due to Tours Forum and our Team Tour should start around the middle-end of next month and will be locked to Pre DLC form (assuming that it is that long). Also, Lkjc's team is now a sample.

As always, thanks for reading and have a nice day,

 

[TheSealGoesMeow]

Mudsdale @ Assault Vest
Ability: Stamina
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Body Press
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Heavy Slam

Cinccino @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Blast
- Bullet Seed
- Tail Slap
- Play Rough

Arcanine @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Will-O-Wisp
- Snarl
- Substitute
- Morning Sun

Incineroar @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Fake Out
- Will-O-Wisp
- Parting Shot
- Bulk Up

This has 2 parts the first part is defense set up on mudsdale by rock blasting it with skill link cincinno which is scarfed to outspeed and give the boost asap. Mudsdale has pody press for even more damage and coverage for big threats like mimikyu. the av helps it tank special attacks well.

The second part is a double intimidate and stall set featuring the cat and dog duo, Arcanine and Incineroar who debuff them and burn them so they stall out the opponent

 

[Arai]

UR -> C+/B-

Notable sets

Araquanid @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Water Bubble
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Protect
- Liquidation
- Leech Life
- Giga Drain / Mirror Coat

Araquanid is another bulky Pokemon which functions great under Trick Room. Araquanid has a good defensive typing along with great bulk on the special side often allowing it to take hits well. +2 Liquidation after Water Bubble is guaranteed to hit even harder than Dracovish and under Trick Room you are likely to be "faster". It also has decent coverage and can also choose to run Mirror Coat to deal with certain specially offensive threats. I would say Araquanid functions best with Dusclops due to it having access to Rock Tomb which can activate WP, while also having other support moves to help it further such as Helping Hand and Ally Switch.

 

[D2TheW]

Beat Partman 3-1 with the power of the donkey GGs mate
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1105593232
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1105594907
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1105596560
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1105598223

 

[ArcticBreeze]

We played a bo7 instead of bo5, ggs
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1108646361
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1108651662
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1108657682
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1108659707

https://pokepast.es/ca6c46be765af97e the teams I used

Runerigus to C (it has massive potential)

 

[lancert]

Hello, I made a setpedia following the latest statistics at the last ORAS 2v2 tournament and also made a Viability Rankings, so that our community remains attractive and that the players who will play in the next tournament can help out with my setpedia (my setpedia is not finished yet, I'll add sets in the week ) -> https://pokepast.es/a2bf751ab2a95287
​

S Rank:

Charizard Y

A Rank:

Aegilash

Kyurem-Black

B Rank:

B+

Politoed

Zapdos

Blastoise-Mega

Scarfty

B

Amoonguss

Landorus-Therian

Victini

Cresselia

Swampert-Mega

Heatran

Greninja

Whimsicott

Mawile-Mega

Gastrodon

Deoxys-Attack

Excadrill

Venusaur-Mega

Metagross-Mega

Camerupt-Mega

Abomasnow-Mega

Talonflame

Tyranitar-Mega

Dragonite

Sableye-Mega

Hoopa-Unbound

Kingdra

Arcanine

Keldeo

Ludicolo

Landorus

Gyarados-Mega

C Rank:

C+

Suicune

Reuniclus

Banette-Mega

Nidoking

Diancie

Thundurus-Therian

Porygon2

Jellicent

Pachirisu

Azumarill

Lopunny-Mega

Volcarona

Scizor-Mega

Shaymin

C

Victreebel

Blissey

Manectric-Mega

Blaziken-Mega

Ferrothorn

Gourgeist

Cradawnt

Volcanion

D rank:

Entei

Thundurus

Mew

Milotic

Raichu

Togekiss

Medicham-Mega

 

[lancert]

Sample teams for ORAS 2v2 doubles (click on the sprites for the paste please)

Birds Moment

The core between Metagross and Landorus-T is pretty decent, I added on Landorus-T the Assault Vest item to be able to defeat the potential enemies of Metagross like Charizard-Y, Victini... Zapdos is here to put a big Tailwind to make it easier for his teammates to defeat enemies faster.

by Lancer Fr

Basic TR

As you all know, slow teams have tremendous power in double battles, and it's still viable in ORAS 2v2.

by Lancer Fr

Climate, is also an answer

The team is there to hit as hard as they can and make big holes in the opposing team.

by Lancer Fr



​

 

[Arai]

Formatting and idea borrowed from here

Role Compendium
​

This compendium is intended as a visual list which represents the roles in which viable Pokemon fulfill. It is meant as a resource that will help players easily identify what roles certain Pokemon fall under and how they are used. This compendium will continue to update over time as the viability rankings continue to change. If you feel there is a Pokemon viable for any of these roles but is not included we urge you to recommend them in this thread with solid explanations.

1. Field Effects
Sun:

Chlorophyll:

Solar Power:

Rain:

Swift Swim:

Sandstorm:

Sand Rush:

Tailwind:

Trick Room:

Trick Room Abuser:

2. Utility
Follow Me:

Storm Drain:

Lightning Rod:

Helping Hand:

Fake Tears:

Immune to Redirection:

(Stalwart)
Prankster:

Inner Focus:

Fake Out:

Wide Guard:

Defiant:

Competitive:

Priority Attacks:

(Mach Punch)

(Extreme Speed)

(Shadow Sneak)

(Aqua Jet)
Unique Speed Control:

(Icy Wind)

(Quash)

(After You)

3. Damage Reduction
Intimidate:

Charm:

Snarl:

Parting Shot:

4. Status
Sleep:

(Sleep Powder)

(Hypnosis)

(Yawn)
Burn:

Paralysis:

(Thunder Wave)

(Nuzzle)

 

[zioziotrip]

Nomming Sirfetch'd for B+
So what does this thing do that other fighting types can't? Scrappy. Sirfetch'd boasts an impressive 135 attack and while physical attackers are usually bogged down by Intimidate Scrappy received a buff this gen that prevents Intimidate from lowering a Scrappy mon's attack. Sirfetch'd most obvious boon is being able to nuke Incin but it also gets a really useful movepool for dispatched other common threats. For example, the combo of Sableye+Whimsicoot fears CC+Brave Bird so it's forced to Encore+Disable Sirfetch'd that allows a partner such as Zera to get off a Taunt/attacking move. It pairs great w/ a mon such as Zera for Fake Out support but I've also liked using Drampa for Cloud Nine to let Sirfetch'd outspeed the more gimmicky weather abusers. I'd recommend LO+3 attacks+Protect it seems to be pretty good at dishing out damage and w/ proper support it can easily dismantle an opposing squad.

 

[Arai]

UR -> B/B+

Notable Sets

Torracat @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 192 HP / 76 SpA / 240 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fake Out
- Overheat
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt / Parting Shot

Notes
- OHKOs offensive Excadrill
- Outspeeds Excadrill outside of sand

Torracat unlike its older brother is able reach a much higher speed tier and naturally outspeeds threats like Sawk. Its higher speed tier helps it outspeed other common Fake Out users such as Blastoise and Hitmontop that Incineroar otherwise cannot. It has access to many of the same viable moves like Fake Out, WoW and Taunt. While its defenses are significantly weaker it does not get hit quite as hard by Fighting-type moves due to it not being Dark-type. While it lacks Snarl it can still use Parting Shot as a solid replacement.

 

[Mubs]

A few updates:

I'd like to announce that D2TheW is now 2v2 council! He's been an amazingly consistent player and I have no doubt he will help us in suspecting going forward. Also, on the topic of council, do you all feel that something should be suspected, or whether we should review our banlist? It'd be greatly appreciated if you gave your thoughts.

We're now looking for sample teams! If you could submit teams and give a little description for what the mons do, that'd be great.

Regarding tournaments, Our teamtour should be whenever OM staff approves it, though we are looking for this Sunday.

As always thanks for reading and have a nice day. I'll be semi-revamping resources.

Mubs out.

 

[IBM]

Resuspect vish.
That is all.

Edit: Arai wants me to give reasoning so
The original suspect was very suspicious in how members for the suspect were chosen. Several inactive council members were given the right to vote for no reason, and most voted ban to follow some sort of trend. The vote was very close even after this skewing. The meta has also changed a lot since the time that dracovish was voted on. In the modern meta, sun teams and special walls run around because there is no strong water type attacker to keep them in check. I think re adding dracovish to the 2v2 meta will increase the variety and fun of the meta as a whole. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

 

[Mubs]

The original suspect was very suspicious in how members for the suspect were chosen. Several inactive council members were given the right to vote for no reason, and most voted ban to follow some sort of trend. The vote was very close even after this skewing. The meta has also changed a lot since the time that dracovish was voted on. In the modern meta, sun teams and special walls run around because there is no strong water type attacker to keep them in check. I think re adding dracovish to the 2v2 meta will increase the variety and fun of the meta as a whole. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

I'll look into what you've said, but I feel a few of your points were wrong. Heres who I gave autoreqs to and the reasons; none of these people were on council (fan is now but not then).

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Kaif: Has consistently placed well in playing phase tours and is a current finalist in our first circuit tour

187 Fan: Current Finalist of the first circuit tour.

Tom842: Circuit tour semifinalist, along with placing first in the second semi-ladder tour, winning the bo7.

And on the topic of whether this changed the fate of Dracovish, it still would have been banned with the same percentage (albeit 4-2 instead of 6-3). You're in the smog convo, so you can confirm it yourself if you'd like. You're probably referring to when I gave council + people who played in 2v2's playing phases reqs for dynamax, which I did because it was the beginning of the gen, we didn't have a solid means to vote, and even then, one of them abstained and the other ban, which would not have changed the result.

Nevertheless, a Dracovish resuspect is something I'll push in council chat, expect something on that in give or take 2-3 days. As always, thanks for reading and have a nice day.

 

[D2TheW]

Alright, I figured it's long overdue that I submit a sample team so here we go
Introducing: Sawk Squad
https://pokepast.es/5cc3ac3aaea83e60

This team has been incredibly consistent for me over the last month or so and I've given it to others who have used it to success. The team is built around the core of Inner Focus Sawk and fake out zera, a duo that I have lauded before, in other posts so I won't go too in depth here. In essence, Inner Focus allows Sawk to avoid Incineroar's fake out and intimidate and easily ko with life orb close combat. Zera fakes out the opponent's other mon and leaves you with a 2-1 advantage with two strong attackers with diverse coverage. Incineroar and it's fake out are often an integral part of a teams structure and the ability to surpass that freely leaves many teams on the back foot. This also works against Scrafty teams.

Snorlax is another underated threat and serves a key role in this team as it practically solos sun with some support from Zera or Reuniclus depending on their team. Similarly, Lax's outstanding bulk and great coverage let it handily take on Psyterrain and Rain teams as well as being a solid check to many trick room teams.

Reuniclus is an odd duck and probably the most replaceable element of this team but it backs up the other three well with it's good bulk and fantastic power. It does well against the more physically bulky threats the others struggle with such as Hippo and Torkoal and also deals with hitmontop who Sawk is less equipped to handle. Trick Room on Reun is situationally beneficial but protect is overall better.

I cover which pairings you should probably pick depending on the opponent's team in the paste so I won't go over it here but each pairing serves a purpose and I've used all at some point or another.

Replays:
Sawk+Zera:https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1107471853
Sawk+Lax: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1112863969
Lax+Reun: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen82v2doubles-1106103352

 

[Walrain]

https://pokepast.es/889ea509e354033e

Inroducing prim-chande offense

This team has been one of my favorite things to build, and it works really well. this team is focused on a primarina and chandelure core, and countering common things in the meta. It pressures things like incineroar, darmanitan, and snorlax, with trick, and a fast OHKO on darm.

Bisharp helps with things like hard trick room teams, or, snorlax incin leads with low kick. it destroys hatterene, as long as you get rid of indeedee, and also takes out things like dusclops with a STAB knock off.

The last thing on this team is quite strange, but works well, which is gastrodon. Gastro keeps chandelure safe in games where you don't want to bring prim. it also has a good matchups against most times you're stuck in 2-1 games with a weakened mon. it also almost always wins in one on ones with toxic and recover

one thing this team struggles with is a sawk-zera core. sawk destroys chande and bisharp, and zeraora kills prim unless you get a lucky burn from a heat wave. the only counter to this team is gastro, and because of gastro's inability to stall those two mons if they are both alive. you may want to change a move or two, or add bulk in order to be able to better counter that team.

I hope this team helps you!

 

[Mubs]

As we approach the first DLC, I’m taking steps to best prepare the metagame for the new pokemon and metagame changes that will come with it. Here are a few things I’m doing:

• A QC team for Samples has been made. This team will be Me, D2TheW, and Lkjc. This team will help to get good samples out as soon as possible.
• The VR has been updated! The VR team is working towards having updates more routinely as we closely approach DLC and the metagame shifts that are bound to come with it.
• On the topic of metagame shifts, the topic of resuspecting Dracovish has been talked about within the council, and does not have the support to happen (we are 50/50 on the issue). Although this suspect is likely to not happen, many of the people who’ve opposed the notion of freeing it when DLC drops, so as it stands, Dracovish will be unbanned when DLC drops.

I also want to mention a proposal for suspecting, which takes inspiration from how BW OU used to do suspects as we start a new metagame:

• Every suspect phase will have a one-week reqs phase in which users will go for the ability to partake in voting.
• A 2-3 day nomination period. Users will be allowed to post suspect nominations in this thread. There is no rating criteria to qualify for nominating -- anybody can submit nominations.
• The top 3 nominations will be voted on by those who have achieved suspect requirements. A supermajority or a majority in two cycles is needed for the Pokemon to be removed from the metagame.

Thoughts? Concerns? I'd love to hear them. As always, thanks for reading and have a nice day. Good luck to everyone participating in 2v2PL!

 

[PA]

posting 2 teams for samples since they seem outdated. descriptions are in paste.


Jailmew Offense
Paste:

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https://pokepast.es/7a50727c6a834518

Trick Room Offense
Paste:

Hide

https://pokepast.es/38b33c249927deb4

 

[Ransei]

Mubs and friends!

2v2 Doubles is June's Leader's Choice of the Month. Have fun!

 

[RADU]

Mubs and friends!

2v2 Doubles is June's Leader's Choice of the Month. Have fun!

bruh we didn't want it this month

 

[pqs]

im thankful that we got any ladder bcz there was a chance that we couldn't get it once dlc dropped. it's gonna be great getting to test out teams without asking for a tour (which, depending on the time, might not even have a good amount of players).

 

[IBM]

VR noms yay

S -> A+
This thing is pretty much the only weather mon used currently, but the meta has evolved to be pretty anti sun and torkoal is just not as versatile as his buddy in S rank incineroar

A+ -> B+
Excadrill is so bad in the current meta, it just isn’t good anymore. It can still be a little speedy on sand so that’s why I don’t think it should completely fall off VR.

A+ -> A-
Incineroar outclasses scrafty in almost every way, barring fighting type coverage, which isn’t as useful as incineroar’s fire considering all the fairy and fire types in the meta.

A -> A+
This thing is really strong with being able to customize to anything your team needs and it can remove an opposing mon from being able to do anything with imprison transform.

A -> B
Sand is just not as good anymore and every team has fighting type coverage to insta kill ttar

B+ -> C
Braviary’s only niche is getting a boost from mons with intimidate which might seem cool, but it is still flinched by fake out and disposed of by the partner mon.

B -> A-
The chad sawk on the other hand, has no concept of being flinched by fake out and does it’s job of removing that pesky intimidator 100% of the time. Sawk is honestly really good in the meta rn.

B+ -> A-
Big boy lax has 10 different sets that all look the same at team preview and each has to be dealt with differently (besides clicking close combat). Lax also solos sun with thicc fat.

B- -> B+
Stoise is really good at running a support set or a shell smash water spout set and they’re both really good.

Mons that no one cares about:
to UR, bad Venusaur
to UR, bad Incineroar
to UR, bad Raichu-A
to UR, bad Hatterene
to UR, bad.