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A Pokemon Draft.
- Thread starter rbygsc kid 251
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uh let's say you can't. the most you'll be able to spend on one pokemon would be a certain amount (depending on the amount of pokemon that wanted to be drafted)
ie: 8 players total in the draft and each can draft 8 pokemon, making a total of 64 pokemon being drafted altogether. your highest bid to get a single pokemon would be 57 pts (leaving a total of 7 pts, 1 for each remaining pokemon to your selection of 8).
Auction drafts are terrible without actually doing them in person, IMHO.
what exactly about them makes them so terrible?
I only cited those two comboes to illustrate my point, and I DO realise that it's 6v6 and not 2v2, but if you have a hard time stringing together two picks then how hard is it going to be to string together 8? Thats the cost player A pays, he has to wait 8 picks every single time, where the rest of the team gets at least 1 opportunity to draft two in a row to help along their team's cohesion.
Gyaravire and Skarmbliss are two prominent comboes. You can copy the first to a lesser degree with most any water or flying type along with Lanturn or Jolteon or even any Ground type, but it doesn't work as well as Gyarados and Electivire. On the other side, pretty much any combo of physical and special walls does what Skarmbliss does, but again not as good as Skarmbliss.
In this system, anyone can pickup those less-effective comboes completely unfettered by the other players except for player A, who gets the first overall pick.
Honestly, they both have merits and they both have problems and different drafting strategies can exploit either one. Thats really the nature of any system.
I agree. Even if I created the tournament, I don't know how up to it I would be to sit around for 4 hours. An idea was mentioned earlier to just divide it up.
The best idea might be to string together 8 players that have the same 1.5-2 hrs. free for a week (i.e. everyone is free from 8-10PM Eastern Time on a Tues) and then just break the draft into three segments. You could draft Rounds 1-4 the first week, Rounds 5-8 the second week, and then Rounds 9-12 (or however many their are) the final week.
This idea brings two advantages. 1) You only have to find 2 hrs. of free time to be on the computer, and 2) it gives everyone almost a week to raise 4 pokemon (something that is not really that tough)
Also, the regular season could be divided up in this same fashion. This way instead of having to devote so much time at one time, you can spread it out. The only real disadvatage to a "season" is that so many things can come up for so many people for so many different reasons; whereas, a three day tourney will be quick and out of the way.
Also, one final note: I live on the East Coast of the United States, so I will need to figure out a way that people are not playing their matches at 630 in the morning.
This is sounding more and more like football =D
Maybe you could set it up so there's 8 drafts and then the top 8 players compete in another playoff (Gives more than 8 people a chance, doesn't have to be 8 drafts though)
It would take some coordination, but it can work.
Maybe you could set it up so there's 8 drafts and then the top 8 players compete in another playoff (Gives more than 8 people a chance, doesn't have to be 8 drafts though)
It would take some coordination, but it can work.
Well two things.
1st. If there is so many of these "combos" what is the problem? Everyone will have a chance to make a combo, unless one person decides to grab every "Skarmbliss" combo or what looks like that. Do remember though that people have to grab offense as well so there may be plenty of chance to grab a "Skarmbliss combo"
Secondly, I apologize for shooting your draft idea down before looking at it. Upon further review you can see that all columns add up to 260, which means that it is equal, aka fair. although your draft works, it is very limited. It only works If you have the same amount of Rounds as you do players. (8 rounds, 8 players) So if you have 10 rounds (which is what I would prefer) then my system would work better. Another reason your system can bring complications is that some people may get confused as to when they pick. I know, it is not tha complicated but you never know with the amount of common sense that this world possess. Once again, my bad for shooting it down so quickly.
64 players? Two problems. 1) I do not have supreme organizational skills. I can keep track of 8 players, and maybe up to 16, but after that I would most likely need help.
Problem 2: I'm assuming you are talking about 8 drafts of 8 players each. Every draft must have a time coordination. So lets say I am part of Draft #2, then the other 7 members of draft #2 must all be free at the SAME time. Let's say you are part of Draft #5, then you will not need to be free at the same time as me, but as the other 7 players of Draft #5.
Solution: As i think about this, one idea that may be able to be used is 8 different brackets.
For example: New York Bracket(8 players in Eastern Time Zone, including Canada), U.S Bracket (the rest of the US and Canada), Europe Bracket, Australia Bracket, Japan Bracket, Central America bracket, South American Bracket, etc. etc.
The idea is to have eight seperate draft tournamnents where each emerging victor is entered into another tournament.
Downfalls: A crapload of time must be invested, and there is a chance that the eight emerging people will all have a blissey, which kills my whole orignal idea.
I honestly wouldn't mind more people and I would hate to tell 2 people sorry we are only doing 8 players, I just don't see this many people devoting so much time towards it, if that makes sense.
I didn't say it had to be 8 drafts, we could just do maybe 2 as long as it works.
Very interesting. Id like to do something like this sometime
this is rough because, what really determines a real team? do we just simply put one physical wall, one special wall, one physical sweeper, etc. on each team. Many pokemon seem to be exclusive in what they can do (they will have counters, but they may not necessarily have equals). Also, who would determine this kinda thing. i know my knowledge is no where near a place where i can just go around and assemble eight perfect teams; however, i feel I have enough knowledge to actually draft a GOOD team, not a PERFECT team.
i appreciate everyone's support, but unfortunetly I have found that I would not be able to put forth the effort(or rather, have no time) needed to run such an event. I'm not putting a patent on my idea or anything so if someone wants to host it, I would not have any problems with it. Just let Groudon80 know, if you want to run it. Also, you can check post #55 of this thread if you need a great idea of what the rules should be. You can use #55 as an outline if you will. sorry that I can't be of more help.
I was thinking about bringing up an idea like this when I searched and found this thread.
My idea would work best on Competitor, though it could be done as an Adv Gen tourney on Netbattle. Instead of drafting just a Pokemon, you'd be drafting a specific pokey/moveset combo. Like, in the list of available pokeys there'd be multiple instances of certain pokemon, like a DDMence and an Elemence, DDTar and Tyraniboah, and so on. This would increase the amount of viable pokemon, but decrease the element of surprise somewhat. That makes me think this would work better as an 8-12 man league, that way someone doesn't end up losing a tourney because they got matched up against someone with a huge team advantage. The lack of surprise would work like professional sports leagues, when an NFL team plays the Colts they know they have to gameplan to stop Manning, in this you'll be able to gameplan to stop your opponent's sweeper.
My idea would work best on Competitor, though it could be done as an Adv Gen tourney on Netbattle. Instead of drafting just a Pokemon, you'd be drafting a specific pokey/moveset combo. Like, in the list of available pokeys there'd be multiple instances of certain pokemon, like a DDMence and an Elemence, DDTar and Tyraniboah, and so on. This would increase the amount of viable pokemon, but decrease the element of surprise somewhat. That makes me think this would work better as an 8-12 man league, that way someone doesn't end up losing a tourney because they got matched up against someone with a huge team advantage. The lack of surprise would work like professional sports leagues, when an NFL team plays the Colts they know they have to gameplan to stop Manning, in this you'll be able to gameplan to stop your opponent's sweeper.