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Base Stats, Move Data, Egg Moves, and Dream World Abilities

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Holy crap Politoed and Ninetales are actually in the running of OU Blaziken gets Speed Boost WTF Do they have new stats and what does happiness do this time around?
 
Why do we keep calling Earthquake Spiral "Earthquake Spiral"
I thought it was supposed to be Overconfidence.

It is.
Especially when you think of getting a stat boost from a KO.
"earthquake spiral" is a silly translation based on homophones it could also be translated as "over-earthquake" but that wouldnt make any sense either
 
It learns "[M552]: Special Fire PP: 10 Power: 80 / Accuracy: 100 Effect: May increase user's Special Attack by 1 stage."
Thanks. I'm just too lazy to find the info myself, considering the massive data and a lot of work on my plate. So it doesn't look like the moth would be too good. I was expecting something like a special DD.

Yes, Shadow Tag is a very powerful ability, but the reason Wobbuffet was banned is because it has the perfect movepool to abuse Shadow Tag. Take a hit, Encore, Counter/Mirror Coat, and then maybe Custap Destiny Bond to take out the next victim.

I stated that part of Wobbuffet's reason to be banned was the movepool. And accordingly, from the Shadow Tag thread, it looks as if Chandera learns Calm mind... so that might be a free +6+6. Either way, it still makes choiced fighting attacks extremely risky.

EDIT: I should add my substitute sets are made neglible by Shadow Tag, and Choiced sets neglible by Calm mind.
 
OK. I have lurked forever and I finally created an account for the release. I must know. Do we have any confirmation at all on Encourage's effects? I didn't think it would block negative effects but Hihidaruma and Wargle learn a lot of negative-effect moves and not that many with normal secondary effects. Do we know for sure whether or not it blocks recoil and stat drops? I doubt it does, but there is evidence...
Self quote cause it got lost in the page jump. Anyone have an answer?
 
Ononokusu gets Dragon Dance and Swords Dance, and Doryuuzu gets Swords Dance. I expexted both of them to get these moves, but I still thinks it's too early to tell how they will have an effect.
 
Oh God, please say that 180 power Fire-type move is some magic tutor move that only Blaziken gets.

If the "Lowers Def, SpDef and Speed" effect is correct then Speed Boost Blaziken with that and Hi Jump Kick just ate the metagame. The only thing that would stop it would be priority XD

@ WingedKnight, Encourage has to be the most discussed ability of any lol. Atm nobody really knows, I imagine it will be difficult to find out until someone actually does some tests. Serebii has some pages on Game Mechanics so he might do some tests based on the abilities, but I imagine not until after the general game stuff. Just have to wait until someone bothers to test it.
 
Oh God, please say that 180 power Fire-type move is some magic tutor move that only Blaziken gets.

If the "Lowers Def, SpDef and Speed" effect is correct then Speed Boost Blaziken with that and Hi Jump Kick just ate the metagame. The only thing that would stop it would be priority XD

@ WingedKnight, Encourage has to be the most discussed ability of any lol. Atm nobody really knows, I imagine it will be difficult to find out until someone actually does some tests. Serebii has some pages on Game Mechanics so he might do some tests based on the abilities, but I imagine not until after the general game stuff. Just have to wait until someone bothers to test it.

180 Base Power?? Where did you see this? Is it physical or special?
 
Jesus Christ, Hitmonlee getting the ability unburden would make the endure/reversal/berry combination explosive! Wow, I am looking forward to the competitive scene now that my favorite has a chance to shine. =]
 
Oh God, please say that 180 power Fire-type move is some magic tutor move that only Blaziken gets.

If the "Lowers Def, SpDef and Speed" effect is correct then Speed Boost Blaziken with that and Hi Jump Kick just ate the metagame. The only thing that would stop it would be priority XD

@ WingedKnight, Encourage has to be the most discussed ability of any lol. Atm nobody really knows, I imagine it will be difficult to find out until someone actually does some tests. Serebii has some pages on Game Mechanics so he might do some tests based on the abilities, but I imagine not until after the general game stuff. Just have to wait until someone bothers to test it.

Serebii still has some faulty or not completely documented effects for moves, abilities, and game mechanics. Hopefully someone on here would do the honor.
 
POISON EFFIN HEAL GLISCOR!!!!!!!!!! OVERCONFIDENCE HONCHKROW!!!!!! GUTS FLAREON!!!!!!! PLUS AMPHAROS!!!


...Wait, Plus Ampharos? Holy crap, GF really does hate him.


Meh, I'm disappointed Flareon didn't get anything new is the level-up department... But Guts is a very good ability for it.

Poison Heal Gliscor, on the other hand, is undeniably one of the best additions in the game. Overconfidence Honchkrow is awesome as well. Goes VERY well with Sucker Punch.

Speed Boost Blaziken is WTF to say the least, but a great addition
 
Oh God, please say that 180 power Fire-type move is some magic tutor move that only Blaziken gets.

If the "Lowers Def, SpDef and Speed" effect is correct then Speed Boost Blaziken with that and Hi Jump Kick just ate the metagame. The only thing that would stop it would be priority XD

@ WingedKnight, Encourage has to be the most discussed ability of any lol. Atm nobody really knows, I imagine it will be difficult to find out until someone actually does some tests. Serebii has some pages on Game Mechanics so he might do some tests based on the abilities, but I imagine not until after the general game stuff. Just have to wait until someone bothers to test it.
Thanks for the help. As I expected. I was convinced there was no way it would cancel negative effects. Boosted, recoil-less Brave Birds? Non-crippling Overheats? Ridiculous. But based on the fact that these moves are in the movesets of the Encourage guys, and that Hihidaruma and Wargle both share Superpower, it looks like it could be. It will be a perfectly solid ability regardless, but man, if it's true...
 
Thanks. I'm just too lazy to find the info myself, considering the massive data and a lot of work on my plate. So it doesn't look like the moth would be too good. I was expecting something like a special DD.

The fire moth does learn a DD-esque Bug move that raises Sp. Attack, Sp. Defense and Speed. It´s [M483] me thinks.
 
This metagame is the end of stall. Blaziken alone could demolish everything in its path.
Well, they did give Gliscor Poison Heal...

Oh, I forgot to mention that Mothim got Tinted Lens. That means it is just a Yanmega with weaker stats. Maybe it'll get some use in UU?
 
Although you never know, stall may get new tricks up there sleeve. Its all a matter of how the metagame will evolve, the D/P/Pt/HG/SS Metagame evolved a lot from its early days. And what do you guys think of Hihidaruma I really have a fondness for him
 
[M557]: Physical Fire PP: 5 Power: 180 / Accuracy: 95 Effect: [E14E]

The end of the metagame is nighhhhh.

Though I imagine it'll be just for one Legendary guy to sit there touching himself while using it.

It's effect is: "[M557]: Physical Fire PP: 5 Power: 180 / Accuracy: 95 Effect: Lower's user's Defense, Special Defense and Speed"

Well, they did give Gliscor Poison Heal...

Oh, I forgot to mention that Mothim got Tinted Lens. That means it is just a Yanmega with weaker stats. Maybe it'll get some use in UU?

We already have Venomoth.
 
Hey garchomp, come back, your not OP anymore...

I swear, these attacking stats are ridiculous. It looks like either there will be a big uber metagame, or we will all just use Gen 5 pokemon.
 
It's effect is: "[M557]: Physical Fire PP: 5 Power: 180 / Accuracy: 95 Effect: Lower's user's Defense, Special Defense and Speed"

Yes... Now let's just hope that a Fire-type with massive attack gets it. Slap a CB on and you couldn't care less about the stat drops.

Man I really can't wait for everything to get properly translated and set up. This is gonna be awesome, even if it has got everyone running about like headless chickens.
 
Wait, what the hell?
According to Legendary Pokémon...
No Name HP ATK DEF SPD SPATK SPDEF Type catch EXP Effort Points Item50% Item5% Gender Egg steps Tame Growth Egg Group Abilities ?? next form # color
[649] Genosect 71 120 95 99 120 95 Bug / Steel 3 3 0,1,0,1,1,0 - - x 30,720 0 1,250,000 No Eggs Download 0 5 Purple
...Genosect has 5 forms?
 
Who was the fucker who gave Overconfidence to Salamence? Even Garchomp got an ability not as broken as than its original one, c'mon...

Aggron = Heavy Metal (increases weight)

Awesome name.


And it just occurred to me that my avatar+location makes PERFECT sense, hahaha
 
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