Here are some problems I have with some currently proposed ideas:
No ban - Just read Halcyon. 's post, he words it better than I could
Complex bans + Limits to # of Baton Passers - Do y'all even realize how ridiculous that sounds? You're going to be able to use Scolipede with Baton Pass, but only if there's less than 2 other Baton Passers. Oh, and I'll be the one to code it because programming's easy!
No. Keep it simple, yet effective. This is too conservative, even for me.
Limiting the # of Baton Passers - This would simply kill the playing style rather than nerf it. Baton Pass is a problem because it is impossible to counter outside a few niche pokemon. If we banned even just one of the pokemon on BP teams that make it impossible, BP should be more than manageable for a skilled player using a balanced team.
Magic Bounce + Baton Pass - First of all, the only realistic Magic Bouncer on BP teams is Espeon, so just ban Espeon + Baton Pass. Second, even taking into account the weird nature of Baton Pass, I still think the better move is to just ban Espeon. Smogon doesn't use complex bans just because there's other viable sets of that pokemon. We never have and I don't see why we would start now.
Also, can people stop suggesting counters? Anybody who's done the research should know some decent ways to deal with Baton Pass. The problem is that those ways don't fit onto balanced teams and Baton Pass isn't common enough to go to the trouble.
No ban - Just read Halcyon. 's post, he words it better than I could
Complex bans + Limits to # of Baton Passers - Do y'all even realize how ridiculous that sounds? You're going to be able to use Scolipede with Baton Pass, but only if there's less than 2 other Baton Passers. Oh, and I'll be the one to code it because programming's easy!
No. Keep it simple, yet effective. This is too conservative, even for me.
Limiting the # of Baton Passers - This would simply kill the playing style rather than nerf it. Baton Pass is a problem because it is impossible to counter outside a few niche pokemon. If we banned even just one of the pokemon on BP teams that make it impossible, BP should be more than manageable for a skilled player using a balanced team.
Magic Bounce + Baton Pass - First of all, the only realistic Magic Bouncer on BP teams is Espeon, so just ban Espeon + Baton Pass. Second, even taking into account the weird nature of Baton Pass, I still think the better move is to just ban Espeon. Smogon doesn't use complex bans just because there's other viable sets of that pokemon. We never have and I don't see why we would start now.
Also, can people stop suggesting counters? Anybody who's done the research should know some decent ways to deal with Baton Pass. The problem is that those ways don't fit onto balanced teams and Baton Pass isn't common enough to go to the trouble.