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Yes! Thanks Lee about the Herbivore info. I also think that it might be a better ability then Reckless, if used right that is.

I wonder how the elec zebra could use Herbivore?

Lee Edit: I said 'if' Herbivore grants a Grass immunity.
 
Navelpluis13 said:
Everyone seems to be complaining about speed, maybe a Choice Scarf could work? Assuming that Afro Break is [M543], you can come in and spam it with Reckless: STAB (I guess) + 120 BP + 110 Base Attack + Reckless appears to be a pretty spamable move.

Definately will use this in-game, maybe competitive if it manages to find a niche.
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It's better to take advantage of that great attack stat and bulk, since you would need a Jolly nature just to outspeed any common offensive Pokemon. By investing HP EV's, you can make this guy pretty bulky.
 
giggity69 said:
Edit : Thank you both for being mature
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Wouldn't really call it mature to stop a fight that never should've started anyway, had the op been more mature.

Anyways, I'm 90% sure herbivore will grant grass immunity, as it has the same decription as the other absorb abilities (motor drive, lightning rod etc.).

Reckless doesn't reduce recoil. It increases damage, and since recoil is proportional to the damage, it increases recoil.
 
Smooth Over / Level Ground etc seems to be a nice niche move to abuse- with 60BP it wont be killing any thing anytime soon, but I suppose the idea is to switch in, scare something off, and use Smooth Over on the switchin. This will reduce the opponents speed, and give Afrobull atleast some chance of outspeeding it next turn. The last three moves could just be coverage with 3 of Afro Break / EQ / Stone Edge / Wild Bolt / Megahorn I guess. While this way it wont necessarily sweep endlessly, but atleast this gives it a chance to take out an opponent without having to predict on the switch, since even if the opponent resists ground you should be able to OHKO with some other powerful move. Problems arise if a ground-immune mon switches in on the Smooth Over though =/
 
Bombkirby said:
Okay lemme point something out. Its a Buffalo not a Bull. Two completely different animals! Bulls=Male Cow. Buffalo=Giant furry animal that prowls the great plains of North America. Hence the name Buffaron. (Buffalo.)

See they even have afros in real life:
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Plus Buffafro is clearly a superior name to afro bull.
 
I was doing some damage calcs and a Baffuron with choice band, reckless nature, using the new normal flare blitz will 2hko Wall based Hippodown. While a non boosted curse set Hippodown gives Baffuron an 11% chanceof 1hko. I think trick room teams will be effective in the new meta and Baffuron seems to be able to tons of damage against most defensive walls. Long live the Afro!
 
It has a good move pool to abuse Reckless, and the lack of Speed will actually force people to use its bulk (although I'm sure a few will try to force the issue with Choice Scarf).

If you can spread Paralysis around, the Swords Dance set is very scary with 110 base attack (the same as Snorlax), and about as much bulk as Lickilicky.
 
lumpor said:
Anyways, I'm 90% sure herbivore will grant grass immunity, as it has the same decription as the other absorb abilities (motor drive, lightning rod etc.).
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Where did you get that percentage? Anyway, I actually posted earlier in this thread that it was confirmed (tested ingame) that Herbivore does grant an immunity, so you can all stop asking about it.

lumpor said:
Reckless doesn't reduce recoil. It increases damage, and since recoil is proportional to the damage, it increases recoil.
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I never said Reckless reduced recoil. Afro Break deals 1/4 of the damage dealt back to the user in recoil, Double-Edge deals 1/3.
 
Pit[y]Lord said:
I would really like for someone to confirm if Herbivore has the grass type immunity or not? Even though Grass is not that a prominent of an attacking type, an immunity + bonus is never a bad thing, and could prove to be a good ability for the bull and the other ones sharing it.

I like this mon very much. It's desing cracks me up and it IS quite powerfull. I do not like Reckless that much, but if Herbivore will not give him grass immunity, then I guess it is his best option after all. Movepool is ok I guess. An electric attack on a normal physical attacker is quite rare actualy, and can be the thing that sets him apart from his other normal type bretheren.
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I bet grass will get more love due to the new rock types and ground types so you are right when you say it's never a bad thing it may actually turn out to be big
 
Tauros got some much more powerful moves now thanks to Encourage.

Namely, 135 BP Rock Climb, 150 BP Stone Edge (possibly), 112.5 BP Rock Slide and 120 Zen Headbutt.

This makes Choice Scarf Baffuron almost completely outclassed by Choice Band Tauros. You won't see me using Baffuron any time soon.
 
'It doesn't have massive Attack and Speed. Trash'
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It's not a trash obviously. I only said that is has everything good except speed. We may ignore it, however speed is really an issue. Yes, it has really good bulk, however with introduction of many new Fighting types this Gen he may struggle in some situations. However if you may play around it - then this guy can hit really hard. But IMO I would still choose Emboar, as I think they may end in similar tier. However you post good advantage for our 'Afro Bull', which is handling bulky waters much easier. And it may trap ghosts (even better then Tauros IMO), which is also nice bonus.
 
God people like Dialace Starvy make me wonder if people know how to read.

Buffuron is Buffuron, Tauros is Tauros. I personally love this guy. Afro Break is such a great move coupled with STAB and Reckless. It needs a some support to be good. WishPasser is great to revive Buffuron's recoil damage, and T-Wave support is just godly. Swords Dance is what makes it different from Tauros. 110 Atk+SD, is just godly.
 
Afro Break is essentially Double Edge with less recoil, except you're using Reckless, so you have MORE recoil. Ursaring has Guts (to balance out the Reckless recoil and damage) and higher Atk (to balance Reckless damage even more) so he could pretty much do the same thing with SD + Double Edge. Did anyone ever use SD Ursaring with Double Edge? I think not. Ursaring is only like 10% less bulkier on either defenses too.

I just don't see the point of this guy.
 
What about a scarf set? Before you troll me into saying how that would fail. Lets look at the facts.

-it looks low tier I have a feeling it's NU
-Good Attack if it is NU
-Speed isn't THAT BAD

Think about it, it's like scarftar except in NU you don't have to be that fast. I'm not saying this will be NU for sure but we can assume.
 
Some more recoil moves would be nice outside of the new Double-Edge and Wild Bolt because Reckless isn't the best ability. Megahorn is cool but will probably suck kind of like how Tauros with Outrage sucks. Of course Swords Dance is promising, but no Agility and no Defense boost move kind of bugs me.

Wait. Is that move called Troll?
 
reckless + life orb would be horrible. it would render his good defenses useless since he would be pressed to survive more than 3 turns. it doubles the power of recoil moves, AND doubles the recoil. the OP says recoil is reduced. Choice Items are viable, but definitely not life orb.
 
I, for one, welcome our new buffalo overlords. Not only is he bulky, but he has a wonderful movepool, and the attack stat to abuse it.

Besides, he has an afro on his head. How can you deny the awesomeness of that?
 
Meh, this bull is just as useless and pathetic as i said it was before we even knew his stats. How can a bull possibly be so slow?!! bulls are freaking fast ass animals. This guy is an insult to Tauros.
 
The Cicada said:
Meh, this bull is just as useless and pathetic as i said it was before we even knew his stats. How can a bull possibly be so slow?!! bulls are freaking fast ass animals. This guy is an insult to Tauros.
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It's a buffalo, not a bull. How many times do people have to repeat this?
 
Meh, this bull is just as useless and pathetic as i said it was before we even knew his stats. How can a bull possibly be so slow?!! bulls are freaking fast ass animals. This guy is an insult to Tauros
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I agree. A Pokemon with poor speed automatically sucks. The only way this could be useful at all is if it was bulkier than Swampert, only had one weakness, had two immunities to some of the most common attacks in UU and had excellent attacking power.

Oh wait...
 
This thing looks SO cool!


Who cares how slow it is, it would slow down its opponents with its sheer badassery. Or with Scary Face...

Afro Bull @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Ability: Reckless
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly
- Scary Face
- Earthquake
- [M543] Afro Break
- Wild Bolt

OR!

Afro Bull @ Life Orb
Ability: Reckless
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
IVs: 0 Spe
Brave
- Afro Break
- Earthquake
- Wild Bolt
- Swords Dance
 
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