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Luigi sucked, Kirby was great in the original (his throw was classic) but they weakened him considerably for the sequel.
 
I still love Kirby. Hopefully they will fix him up this game. However if Meta-Knight performs better you will see me with a new favorite. So far, Meta-Knight seems like a more powerful version of Kirby. However with less speed, and less ability to dodge.

And like I said, I will try out Pit, MKnight, and Kirby. See how well they do, which one I like best (move wise), and which one I like best strategy wise.

I like Pit's long and short range thing. And he can "fly" for a short time. Just by looking I can tell it will be a close game between him and Kirby for favorites.
 
Luigi sucked, Kirby was great in the original (his throw was classic) but they weakened him considerably for the sequel.
Luigi isn't bad if you can wavedash.

Edit: Kirby was overrated in the original. Sure he's good, but EVERY noob used him. His throws aren't even that good, he just had a huge grab range.

If you want good throws in SSB try Pikachu.
 
Luigi isn't bad if you can wavedash.

Edit: Kirby was overrated in the original. Sure he's good, but EVERY noob used him. His throws aren't even that good, he just had a huge grab range.

If you want good throws in SSB try Pikachu.

Kirby's throw wasn't so good as it was fun to do and cool to watch to over people. Falcon, I'd probably say, if you use him right would be the best, in my humble opinion.

Pikachu was an annoying bastard, but fun to kill.
 
What matters most IMO is balancing. For this reason I think they should NOT bring falco back, and should re-balance fox and shiek a bit. All the weaker characters should get buffs. Wavedashing needs to go IMO. I also hope they keep the C-Stick... it's just so much easier especially for jump-smashes.

As for characters...
-Sonic (I think we will be more suprised if he DOESN'T turn up.)
-Link in Wind-Waker mode (the new Young Link basically)
-Crono (Heh... we can only dream. It's not 100% impossible, though, and with music composers from CT...)
-Diddy Kong
-Raichu (bulkier pikachu clone)
-Infernape
-A new FE character or two, preferably Ephraim, Lyn, Hector, or Soren rather than just a third sword-using clone like Eliwood or Ike.
-Some SE classes such as Ninja, Black Mage, White Mage (all three of which appeared in Mario Basketball, incidentally)


That's what comes to mind right now. I'd like to see Leon S. Kennedy, Dante and Revolver Ocelot, but that's asking a bit much.
 
What matters most IMO is balancing. All the weaker characters should get buffs.

Assuming that buffs was referring to strength of attacks:

ok in case you didn't realize. The weaker classes are faster. Why would you give the weaker classes more strength? Do you really want Pichu to be as strong as bowser? A fighter with that speed and that strength would be very cheap. Thats why you have three classes:

Light (fast but weak)ex: Kirby, Pichu.

Medium (average sped and strength) ex: Mario.

Heavy: (slow but powerful) ex: Bowser, DK.
 

Ah, see I don't own a Gamecube, so I'm much more familiar with SSB than SSBM. And from what I understand, this is taking advantage of the game engine to perform better. I see no problem with that. Do I want to see this in SSBB? No. That's giving an added edge that isn't really necessary, not to mention the physics of it is just bunk.

edit: this avatar is getting a little lame, care to give me a new one dm? ; )

Don't tempt me.
 
I'll be damned if they add Raichu or a starter pokemon....

sooo..... anyone think that Sakurai can be sort of an asshole with his updates........ why didn't he just put up all the characters we already knew when he first remade the site?


prediction: next update will be one describing the nintendogs item >_>
 
Ah, see I don't own a Gamecube, so I'm much more familiar with SSB than SSBM. And from what I understand, this is taking advantage of the game engine to perform better. I see no problem with that. Do I want to see this in SSBB? No. That's giving an added edge that isn't really necessary, not to mention the physics of it is just bunk.



Don't tempt me.
Unnecessary? Perhaps, but it does add a whole layer of complexity to smash, which is why I love the game so much. Wavedashing allows for fluid movement, while allowing freedom of attacks, unlike a normal run, but to say it's broken or needs to be removed is overratting it. It is not an essential move by any means, there are several professionals players who to do not wavedash at all. All it really is is an alternate form of movement, that allows more fluidity.

Really it's quite overhyped by many people as it's so unorthodox, but it's one of many special techniques one can preform in the game.
 
I'll be damned if they add Raichu or a starter pokemon....

sooo..... anyone think that Sakurai can be sort of an asshole with his updates........ why didn't he just put up all the characters we already knew when he first remade the site?


prediction: next update will be one describing the nintendogs item >_>


I think he is messing with us for fun. I could understand if maybe he gave all the moves (where not all have been released) but come on. He has only revealed Kirby, Pikachu, Mario, Link and only one newcomer Pit.

I mean why not add meta-knight and Zero suit samus. We all know they are there.
 
Ah, see I don't own a Gamecube, so I'm much more familiar with SSB than SSBM. And from what I understand, this is taking advantage of the game engine to perform better. I see no problem with that. Do I want to see this in SSBB? No. That's giving an added edge that isn't really necessary, not to mention the physics of it is just bunk.



Don't tempt me.

I don't have a problem with people abusing all those advance techniques, but Super Smash is one game I want to enjoy and not worry about stressing over being "the best." Playing like this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=9pYIadEGBsc is something I could care less about, the timing and the super fast paced nature of that just kills it for me. Obviously if I cared to play like that how I do with Pokemon I would attempt, but no I just want to enjoy a nice easy game versus someone who won't ko me in 30 seconds.
 
They have no reason to add more Pokemon, I mean Pikachu is obvious as the face of the franchise, and Mewtwo is really only just a bit less so in my mind. Jigglypuff was a cute enough novelty, a friend of mine uses him at school, him I can understand, but Pichu? Pichu was totally worthless, a waste of the slot, and without question one of the two worst characters in all the game, down there with Bowser. If you're going to add any new Pokemon as characters, and they really shouldn't add more then one or maybe two, then I would like them to scrap Pichu. And that means no Minun or Plusle, or that stupid electric squirrel from D/P or any other Pikachu clones. But really, by my line of thinking, no other Pokemon really fits the physical requirements or popularity that would warrant inclusion into the game, although I've been thinking over my Deoxys suggestion and something like that might have potential. It would have to be a humanoid of roughly Mewtwo's size, I think, so that means no large winged dragons such as Charizard, or on the opposite end of the scale small things like Jirachi. Infernape might work actually, but I really don't see him fitting all that well either.

If they wanted to add Raichu, they could have done it way back in the original, I don't see why they would be starting now.
 
If they wanted to add Raichu, they could have done it way back in the original, I don't see why they would be starting now.

Actually, they've wanted to add King Dedede since the original, but weren't able to due to time/space issues. They were gunna add him in melee too but they were pushed for time...Since Brawl likely isn't going to have any time/space issues, it would be the perfect time to add all the characters they've wanted to add since the first one.
 
@zerowing: I'm not understanding the semi-hate towards competitive smash bros.... it is not a requirement that you play against someone who knows how to play like that. So ummm.... why type something like "I just want to enjoy a nice easy game versus someone who won't ko me in 30 seconds."? It's not like competitive batlling has elminated non-competitive battling, or that it's even hard to find someone who isn't a competitive battler :/....... I mean, unless every single one of your friends either dislikes smash or is into competitive smash.... and I guess the only thing to say to that would be "sux 4 u"...
 
@zerowing: I'm not understanding the semi-hate towards competitive smash bros.... it is not a requirement that you play against someone who knows how to play like that. So ummm.... why type something like "I just want to enjoy a nice easy game versus someone who won't ko me in 30 seconds."? It's not like competitive batlling has elminated non-competitive battling, or that it's even hard to find someone who isn't a competitive battler :/....... I mean, unless every single one of your friends either dislikes smash or is into competitive smash.... and I guess the only thing to say to that would be "sux 4 u"...
Well obviously I don't need to play them, and I have played competitively, but I have a few problems with it. The neutered environment with no items usually played on Final Destination is like a certain Pokemon metagame, those players are the best of that metagame and by no means are "the best" smash players in the world. I'm sure they can hold their own in a full item random stage game, but I have yet to see a video anywhere with the "pros" playing under the normal default rules. While this is a minor quip, hearing everyone and their mother say "if I don't wavedash this, shine that, blargh blargh" its kind of kills some of it for me. Maybe I'm like this because I remember the innocent times where no one knew of these "advance techniques" and just played like how it was meant to be played (its in my opinion that it was meant as a fans dream game, pitting favourite characters against each other to just beat the shit out of each other, not the competitive monster it has become). When MLG or whoever else runs competitive tournaments with items and the lot maybe I'll care about competitive Smash, right now I don't and I'll just stick to my fun with Pichu (somehow my second used character) without getting beat up by a wavedashing-l-canceling-short-hopping Marth. Meh now I sound like a complainer, but remember I did dabble in competitive Smash for a bit, so I know what its like and once upon a time I could wavedash and do all that crap.
 
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