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Project Break This Team: AG Edition [Closed]
- Thread starter Lana
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arushi & pigeons
Ransei's Mega Rayquaza + Ho-oh
Voting is closed. Congratulations Arushi for winning round 4
Arushi - 4 Votes
BaconEatinAssassin - 3 Votes
bdov, Lavaclaw, Pigeons, Ransei - 2 Votes
1) sry I was late. Had to go hunting for a good team I could use on this thread for you all to break
2) Thank you for your generous offering bdov
Top 3 votes
Week 5's team is by bdov!
This team is built around the two sweepers being Z-Refresh E-Killer and CM Steelceus. Pursuit trapping Marsh helps to get rid of Ghost-types that can stand in E-Killers way like Mega Gengar and Lunala. Waterceus, scarf Mega Rayquaza, and Pdon are there to counter the bigger threats like Dusk Mane and Marshadow.
Deadline for core submissions is Monday January 28th 11:59 PM EST.
Arushi - 4 Votes
BaconEatinAssassin - 3 Votes
bdov, Lavaclaw, Pigeons, Ransei - 2 Votes
1) sry I was late. Had to go hunting for a good team I could use on this thread for you all to break
2) Thank you for your generous offering bdov
Top 3 votes
Week 5's team is by bdov!
This team is built around the two sweepers being Z-Refresh E-Killer and CM Steelceus. Pursuit trapping Marsh helps to get rid of Ghost-types that can stand in E-Killers way like Mega Gengar and Lunala. Waterceus, scarf Mega Rayquaza, and Pdon are there to counter the bigger threats like Dusk Mane and Marshadow.
Defensive Ho-Oh + Bulk Up Z Marsh
Sets:
Ho-Oh @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 SpD
Impish Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Recover
- Defog
- Toxic
Marshadow @ Marshadium Z
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Bulk Up
- Spectral Thief
- Shadow Sneak
Defensive Ho-Oh straight up walls the pdon, waterceus (it lacks toxic AND judgment), and steelceus, while also being able to 1v1 the marsh and scarfray through recover spam. It also single-handedly keeps rocks off the field. The only real issue it faces is the ekiller, which can potentially 1v1 it. It also suffers from having only 8 attack pp. This is where bulk up z marsh comes in. It can feasibly pull off a late-game sweep if the waterceus and pdon are sufficiently weakened from ho-oh's toxic, and it also provides an out for Ho-oh vs the ekiller. After burning the ekiller with sacred fire, you can hard switch to marsh on the refresh and take advantage of a bulk-up opportunity. These two mons on their own have the potential to break apart the team.
Sets:
Ho-Oh @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 SpD
Impish Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Recover
- Defog
- Toxic
Marshadow @ Marshadium Z
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Bulk Up
- Spectral Thief
- Shadow Sneak
Defensive Ho-Oh straight up walls the pdon, waterceus (it lacks toxic AND judgment), and steelceus, while also being able to 1v1 the marsh and scarfray through recover spam. It also single-handedly keeps rocks off the field. The only real issue it faces is the ekiller, which can potentially 1v1 it. It also suffers from having only 8 attack pp. This is where bulk up z marsh comes in. It can feasibly pull off a late-game sweep if the waterceus and pdon are sufficiently weakened from ho-oh's toxic, and it also provides an out for Ho-oh vs the ekiller. After burning the ekiller with sacred fire, you can hard switch to marsh on the refresh and take advantage of a bulk-up opportunity. These two mons on their own have the potential to break apart the team.
Ho-Oh @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 SpD
Impish Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Recover
- Toxic
- Defog
Celesteela @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Flame Charge
- Substitute
- Protect
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 SpD
Impish Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Recover
- Toxic
- Defog
Celesteela @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Flame Charge
- Substitute
- Protect
+2 252+ Atk Arceus Breakneck Blitz (160 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Celesteela: 191-225 (48.1 - 56.6%) -- 35.5% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk Arceus Shadow Claw vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Celesteela: 112-132 (28.2 - 33.2%) -- 92.9% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk Arceus Extreme Speed vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Celesteela: 96-113 (24.1 - 28.4%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
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Arceus-Water @ Splash Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Toxic
- Will-o-Wisp
Celesteela @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Flame Charge
- Substitute
- Protect
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Toxic
- Will-o-Wisp
Celesteela @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Flame Charge
- Substitute
- Protect
Calcs:
+2 252+ Atk Arceus Extreme Speed vs. 240 HP / 252+ Def Arceus-Water: 172-204 (39 - 46.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 240 HP / 252+ Def Arceus-Water: 160-189 (36.2 - 42.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Geo Xern + Z Duggy
sorry i couldn't be bothered to find a dugtrio sprite, use your imagination
Xerneas @ Power Herb
Ability: Fairy Aura
EVs: 108 Def / 252 SpA / 148 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Geomancy
- Moonblast
- Focus Blast
Dugtrio @ Groundium Z
Ability: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
This core is just about always able to break through teams and this case is no exception. Though this team does have priority which can usually stop Xern after it sets up, if you setup on waterceus and either trap or chip pdon (also hit the fmiss on steelceus which is about a 9% chance to happen) then the game will end
some side notes
- 148 speed xern at +2 outspeeds scarf mray
- dug can also trap the steelceus i guess but it's a speed tie so l o l
- even if this fails and you're not able to trap pdon, geo xern is still a massive threat to the team and can take out multiple mons
calcs
252 Atk Life Orb Technician Marshadow Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 108 Def Xerneas: 117-138 (29.7 - 35.1%)
252+ Atk Arceus Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 108 Def Xerneas: 127-150 (32.3 - 38.1%)
0 SpA Arceus-Water Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Xerneas: 77-91 (19.5 - 23.1%)
0 Atk Groudon-Primal Precipice Blades vs. 0 HP / 108 Def Xerneas: 202-238 (51.3 - 60.5%)
252 Atk Rayquaza-Mega Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 108 Def Xerneas: 234-276 (59.5 - 70.2%)
Xerneas @ Power Herb
Ability: Fairy Aura
EVs: 108 Def / 252 SpA / 148 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Geomancy
- Moonblast
- Focus Blast
Dugtrio @ Groundium Z
Ability: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
This core is just about always able to break through teams and this case is no exception. Though this team does have priority which can usually stop Xern after it sets up, if you setup on waterceus and either trap or chip pdon (also hit the fmiss on steelceus which is about a 9% chance to happen) then the game will end
some side notes
- 148 speed xern at +2 outspeeds scarf mray
- dug can also trap the steelceus i guess but it's a speed tie so l o l
- even if this fails and you're not able to trap pdon, geo xern is still a massive threat to the team and can take out multiple mons
calcs
252 Atk Life Orb Technician Marshadow Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 108 Def Xerneas: 117-138 (29.7 - 35.1%)
252+ Atk Arceus Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 108 Def Xerneas: 127-150 (32.3 - 38.1%)
0 SpA Arceus-Water Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Xerneas: 77-91 (19.5 - 23.1%)
0 Atk Groudon-Primal Precipice Blades vs. 0 HP / 108 Def Xerneas: 202-238 (51.3 - 60.5%)
252 Atk Rayquaza-Mega Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 108 Def Xerneas: 234-276 (59.5 - 70.2%)
Submissions are closed, voting is open! Here are this round's options!
This team is built around the two sweepers being Z-Refresh E-Killer and CM Steelceus. Pursuit trapping Marsh helps to get rid of Ghost-types that can stand in E-Killers way like Mega Gengar and Lunala. Waterceus, scarf Mega Rayquaza, and Pdon are there to counter the bigger threats like Dusk Mane and Marshadow.
PurpleGatorade:
Holy Break:
MDB:
GarbodorIsHot:
Click on a nominee's username for a description of their core.
You have until this Wednesday at 11:59 PM EST to vote. Same rules apply!
This team is built around the two sweepers being Z-Refresh E-Killer and CM Steelceus. Pursuit trapping Marsh helps to get rid of Ghost-types that can stand in E-Killers way like Mega Gengar and Lunala. Waterceus, scarf Mega Rayquaza, and Pdon are there to counter the bigger threats like Dusk Mane and Marshadow.
Ho-Oh @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 SpD
Impish Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Recover
- Defog
- Toxic
Marshadow @ Marshadium Z
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Bulk Up
- Spectral Thief
- Shadow Sneak
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 SpD
Impish Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Recover
- Defog
- Toxic
Marshadow @ Marshadium Z
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Bulk Up
- Spectral Thief
- Shadow Sneak
Holy Break:
Ho-Oh @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 SpD
Impish Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Recover
- Toxic
- Defog
Celesteela @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Flame Charge
- Substitute
- Protect
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 SpD
Impish Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Recover
- Toxic
- Defog
Celesteela @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Flame Charge
- Substitute
- Protect
MDB:
Arceus-Water @ Splash Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Toxic
- Will-O-Wisp
Celesteela @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Flame Charge
- Substitute
- Protect
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Toxic
- Will-O-Wisp
Celesteela @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Flame Charge
- Substitute
- Protect
GarbodorIsHot:
Xerneas @ Power Herb
Ability: Fairy Aura
EVs: 108 Def / 252 SpA / 148 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Geomancy
- Moonblast
- Focus Blast
Dugtrio @ Groundium Z
Ability: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
Ability: Fairy Aura
EVs: 108 Def / 252 SpA / 148 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Geomancy
- Moonblast
- Focus Blast
Dugtrio @ Groundium Z
Ability: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
Click on a nominee's username for a description of their core.
You have until this Wednesday at 11:59 PM EST to vote. Same rules apply!
Purple and HB
purple and holybreak
It appears more people are liking the taste of purple drinks... 7 out of 8 in fact!
Congratulations to PurpleGatorade and his team for winning Round 5!
Round 6's team was edited and fixed by Skarpherim! I forgot the original owner of this team. If you were the one who pmed me a team like the one below tell me and I will verify!
This is a Gengar-Mega balance which utilizes two of the most offensive cores in the current metagame. Those being, M-Gar + Marshadow and M-Gar + Yveltal. Life Orb Yveltal and Z-Move Marshadow apply insane pressure to opposing teams when paired with M-Gar, who traps Arceus-Fairy. On the defensive side, Zygarde-Complete is one of the most reliable checks to many physical threats such as Ho-Oh, P-Don, M-Ray, Ekiller, and Marshadow. Defog Arceus-Fairy is the backbone of the team and neutralize significant threats like Yveltal, Marshadow, and Zygarde-Complete. Primal-Groudon helps keep Primal-Kyogre and Geomancy Xerneas at bay, while providing a good stealth rock setter. Some Techs this team uses are Thousand Waves Zygarde for trapping Arceus-Fairy and Focus Blast M-Gar which knocks out Tyranitar, who beats LO Yveltal.
The deadline for submitting cores is Friday February 8th at 11:59 PM EST!
Congratulations to PurpleGatorade and his team for winning Round 5!
Round 6's team was edited and fixed by Skarpherim! I forgot the original owner of this team. If you were the one who pmed me a team like the one below tell me and I will verify!
This is a Gengar-Mega balance which utilizes two of the most offensive cores in the current metagame. Those being, M-Gar + Marshadow and M-Gar + Yveltal. Life Orb Yveltal and Z-Move Marshadow apply insane pressure to opposing teams when paired with M-Gar, who traps Arceus-Fairy. On the defensive side, Zygarde-Complete is one of the most reliable checks to many physical threats such as Ho-Oh, P-Don, M-Ray, Ekiller, and Marshadow. Defog Arceus-Fairy is the backbone of the team and neutralize significant threats like Yveltal, Marshadow, and Zygarde-Complete. Primal-Groudon helps keep Primal-Kyogre and Geomancy Xerneas at bay, while providing a good stealth rock setter. Some Techs this team uses are Thousand Waves Zygarde for trapping Arceus-Fairy and Focus Blast M-Gar which knocks out Tyranitar, who beats LO Yveltal.
First Blood
https://pokepast.es/2a0067628e03de53 (I don't want to mess up sprites)
This team falls flat to psyspam
+2 deoxys ohkos everything on your team
Calcs:
+2 252 SpA Deoxys-Attack Psychic vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Groudon-Primal in Psychic Terrain: 435-513 (107.9 - 127.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Deoxys-Attack Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Yveltal: 510-602 (129.7 - 153.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Deoxys-Attack Ice Beam vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Zygarde-Complete: 1040-1224 (163.7 - 192.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Deoxys-Attack Psychic vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Arceus-Fairy in Psychic Terrain: 483-568 (109 - 128.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Deoxys-Attack Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gengar-Mega in Psychic Terrain: 1172-1380 (449 - 528.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Deoxys-Attack Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Marshadow in Psychic Terrain: 1232-1452 (383.8 - 452.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
All The psyspam team needs to do is make sure you don't get rocks up and it is really easy from there
https://pokepast.es/2a0067628e03de53 (I don't want to mess up sprites)
This team falls flat to psyspam
+2 deoxys ohkos everything on your team
Calcs:
+2 252 SpA Deoxys-Attack Psychic vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Groudon-Primal in Psychic Terrain: 435-513 (107.9 - 127.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Deoxys-Attack Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Yveltal: 510-602 (129.7 - 153.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Deoxys-Attack Ice Beam vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Zygarde-Complete: 1040-1224 (163.7 - 192.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Deoxys-Attack Psychic vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Arceus-Fairy in Psychic Terrain: 483-568 (109 - 128.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Deoxys-Attack Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gengar-Mega in Psychic Terrain: 1172-1380 (449 - 528.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Deoxys-Attack Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Marshadow in Psychic Terrain: 1232-1452 (383.8 - 452.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
All The psyspam team needs to do is make sure you don't get rocks up and it is really easy from there
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Arceus-Flying @ Sky Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Judgment
- Refresh
- Recover
- Calm Mind
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Judgment
- Refresh
- Recover
- Calm Mind
Why post a 2 Pokemon core when all you need is one? Because the team we're breaking has no Perish Song user it has very little counterplay to CM Arceus forms in a last-Pokemon scenario where phasing via Roar or Dragon Tail won't work. The only form of resistance it offers to a CM Arceus in this situation is Toxic from multiple Pokemon or revenge killing with Marshadow. Birdceus gets around both of these issues: it has Refresh to handle the team's Toxic users and isn't revenged by Marshadow. Provided it doesn't get crit by Marshadow's Z-move, Birdceus wins outright against this team with no support.
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