CAP 9 CAP 9 - Sprite Submissions

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Here's my first draft of my backsprite. It's very unlikely this is going to be in my final but feedback will help all the same. It'll be interesting to know if opinions differ or not.

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I also made a few tweaks to the front sprite again. Just the front male since if I make more changes i'd rather do everything at the end. Changes are, extra shading on drills, shortening and thickening of right fin to match left, some extra shading on the ground using darkest brown from body, made some earth come up between left fin and little more shade on belly.

I think i'll keep the female scarless with yellow eye in future. It works well and the shorter horns/drills is starting to get a bit bland for me.
 
Chaos, I think I actually liked the fin better, perhaps if only because its position complimented the line of action better. Yours is still one of my favorite in the thread though.

I'm not sure how people felt about my colours, considering the talk that's been going around concerning the green back.
Lord Jesseus was kind enough to send me a slight color edit here:
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with the original on the left.
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I'd also made a color edit of my own.

Anyone think these alterations are necessary? Or should I stick with the first color scheme?

I've also made a version of the fairer sex with the inevitable shortening of the horn.
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I really like the added red tones to your brown. It looks less pastel and more "Dark". Aside from that though, I think they're really too close to be of too much consequence. Also, I like the "inevitable" small-horned female. Good work. :)

@pkmn-taicho321: The fact that it was even called the "pumpkin-shiny" cemenys its vote for me, that's just awesome.

@Wyverii: your back sprite is one bad-ass dude, I think the shortened features work for it. I know it's all about perspective, but perhaps those shortened features would work for your front sprite too. The face just looks a little too long to me.
 
The drill seems a little off-center, maybe because of the shape of the mouth....maybe move the drill a bit to the left?

Yeah, i'm with A B-C (teehee...) the drill is off. I don't know much about teeth though...

EDIT: @pkmn-taicho: i like the orange and black one, which is hopefully not the "pumpkin" one because then I'll feel stupid, and I'm allergic to pumpkins...




jk i'm not
 
Chaos, I think I actually liked the fin better, perhaps if only because its position complimented the line of action better. Yours is still one of my favorite in the thread though.

I'm not sure how people felt about my colours, considering the talk that's been going around concerning the green back.
Lord Jesseus was kind enough to send me a slight color edit here:
narwhal.png

with the original on the left.
diggymon6.png

I'd also made a color edit of my own.

Anyone think these alterations are necessary? Or should I stick with the first color scheme?

I've also made a version of the fairer sex with the inevitable shortening of the horn.
diggymonf.png

Easily my favorite, and please, Dear God, Please, choose your final submission as one of your sprites with the original blockish shading and not the granulated shading. Fits so much better with the D/P/Pt and HG/SS sprites.
 
Here's an update to my sprite. I have filled in some details and put in some shading. I also set the colors in line with Cyzir's original design. The colors I was using on previous WIP's had deviated quite a bit from the design.

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I'm still not sure about the colors, but I think these are better than the ones I was previously using. Like Cartoons, I'm debating how much red to put in the body color. The base design is fairly washed out, almost pastel. Normally sprites are a bit more vivid. The colors above are copied from Cyzir's design, but I'm considering making the body slightly more brown. As always, opinions are welcome.
 
I wouldn't mind "washed out" colors too much Doug. This beastie is of the earth after all and doesn't require vibrant colors as it is like the dull earth it burrows under.

Anywho, tried making him look less menacing and improved the palette once again. If no one has any objections, I will commence the backsprite now...

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Easily my favorite, and please, Dear God, Please, choose your final submission as one of your sprites with the original blockish shading and not the granulated shading. Fits so much better with the D/P/Pt and HG/SS sprites.
But the blocky shading makes it looks almost cubic; the granulated one makes it look a little rounder.

By the way, Cartoons!, one thing I noticed about the sprite is that the left (our right) arm looks a little... iffy somehow, something doesn't look quite right about the colour.
 
My thoughts so far:
KOA- Amazing, looking forward to the backsprite
DJD- I always love your sprites. It might just be me, but is there something wrong with the color of your horn? (ie no colors >.<) Also, the green looks really jagged.
Cartoons!- ...Fucking shit..
Wyverii- Love your front sprite. The back sprite's head should probably be tilted, like the front sprite. Also, it's body looks kinda slim.

Just as a side note, female Narwhals don't usually have a horn =O
 
KoA - I like the dynamic pose, but I'm not crazy about the shade of green; it is a little too Blue Green as opposed to Gray Green. I love the shinies though; they are perfect for CAP 9.

ChaosCrippler - I like the bulkiness of the sprite & the eye shape + scar, however the pose is not my favorite as I don't see a whale being able to make a U with its body outside the water, though this is a land whale, so who knows =).

Cartoons! - I love it =) I personally think the original color is the best for CAP 9; the second one strikes me as too bright, and the last one is slightly too Gray. Great job on the female =).

Wyverii - I love the pose its in; it captures Cyzir's art perfectly, and Cyzir's art was a great set up for a sprite. That being said, the green is too dark/bluish. This problem can be easily alleviated by making the tone of green grayer. The back sprite is fantastic.
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Just my two cents.
 

Cartoons i like this a lot (the one with the big drill, specifically). Honestly the oversized sprite reminds me of an RBY sprite, which I think is cool. It makes him look more fierce which is how pokemon should look, like monsters.
 
I'm really torn between Cartoons', KoA's, and Wyverii's.

And I really think an aboveground sprite should have legs. It may be based on a Narwhal but it's a land creature in the end. It really needs legs to justify that 95 base speed.

Cartoons i like this a lot (the one with the big drill, specifically). Honestly the oversized sprite reminds me of an RBY sprite, which I think is cool. It makes him look more fierce which is how pokemon should look, like monsters.
Or at least how Dark type Pokemon should look. Being intimidating is their whole gig.
 
@Superkid- CyzirVisheen specified it has no legs.

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WIP lineart,but it's too small for my liking (I know my pose is completely different) but am I the only one with a closed mouth?

C+C. I might make the head bigger.
 
Thanks, everyone, for you comments. I'm trying to strike a balance between some of the critiques I've been getting while trying to get across my own vision of the sprite. I'll keep the colors as they were originally, and will take a look at the shading on the arm.

In the meantime, here are the male and female juxtaposed beside each other, some possible shinies, and a backsprite.

diggymon7.png
diggymonf.png

digmonback.png



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Thanks, everyone, for you comments. I'm trying to strike a balance between some of the critiques I've been getting while trying to get across my own vision of the sprite. I'll keep the colors as they were originally, and will take a look at the shading on the arm.

In the meantime, here are the male and female juxtaposed beside each other, some possible shinies, and a backsprite.

diggymon7.png
diggymonf.png

digmonback.png



cap9shinies.png
Great job on the back sprite! I like the first two shinnies, but I don't like the third one.
 
Chaos, I think I actually liked the fin better, perhaps if only because its position complimented the line of action better. Yours is still one of my favorite in the thread though.

I'm not sure how people felt about my colours, considering the talk that's been going around concerning the green back.
Lord Jesseus was kind enough to send me a slight color edit here:
narwhal.png

with the original on the left.
diggymon6.png

I'd also made a color edit of my own.

Anyone think these alterations are necessary? Or should I stick with the first color scheme?

I've also made a version of the fairer sex with the inevitable shortening of the horn.
diggymonf.png

I like this one;
diggymon6.png


However, could you keep the orignal brown? It looks slightly darker. Your sprite is my favorite though. I like how grumpy it makes him look. It seems to fit what I would imagine its personality to be. You have my vote!
 
Thanks, everyone, for you comments. I'm trying to strike a balance between some of the critiques I've been getting while trying to get across my own vision of the sprite. I'll keep the colors as they were originally, and will take a look at the shading on the arm.

In the meantime, here are the male and female juxtaposed beside each other, some possible shinies, and a backsprite.

diggymon7.png
diggymonf.png

digmonback.png



cap9shinies.png

I like the one with the black drills but I think you should use a color other than blue for the top. maybe try a shade of tan or something?
 
Yeah Cartoons, you've been my favorite since the beginning, but Im not really a fan of the shinies, if you added black drills to the second one it would be amazing!
 
Well, it's been a few days in and, so, here's my two cents:

@ Wyverii- Out of all of the submissions that I am seeing thusfar, I would have to say that your set is one of my favorites. I agree that the shortening of the horn on the female is a little overdone and, thus, I find the idea of making the eyes a different color and taking away the scars on the female would be a clever new twist. The color choice for the shiny also is really good.

I do have a suggestion that you may consider: I am not sure if I find the yellow eyes on the female to be very... er... feminine on the regular colored female (its fine on the shiny since the yellow stands out), so I would suggest changing the eye color to make it seem a little more feminine (I was thinking a light blue to that end, but whatever) and seeing whether the yellow or the other color would look better. Either that, or you could keep the eyes red and remove the scars for the female. Just a thought.

@ chomzloh- I rather like this one as well. Although the teeth are missing at the moment (and I hope somebody can help you on that soon since you already mentioned that you're having issues with that), I can see this one comming out quite well. The posing of this guy seems give him a sort of taunting demeanor that I enjoy seeing.

I do have a few suggestions that I can offer.

My first suggestion is this: in regards to your issues with the teeth, I think if you have him grinning rather than having his mouth completely open like your sprite currently portrays, that might make things a little easier. At least, I would think that would be the case- I can't sprite since I don't know how, so I therefore would not know.

Also, while bold colors tend to be a halmark of the fourth gen sprites, I think that if you take a lighter tone of the brown you already have, then you should get a pretty good sprite that has the same sort of pastel appearence as Cyzir's art.

@ KoA- I'm not entirely sure what to say but that this sprite is a good demonstration of your skills as a spriter, which we all can appreciate. I also believe that you have a wonderful shiny coloration as well. I certianly would like to see a back sprite to this guy.

That said, I do have a major concern with yours that I need to address. While I do like the dynapic posing of your sprite, my fear is simply that the fact that the pose is so dynamic will make the sprite inconsistent with the official fourth generation sprites. What I would suggest instead of having such a dynamic pose is making the sprite animated (like Syclant's sprite is), where this fellow is bursting out from the ground like a bat out of Hell and ready to take on secondary effect users... exactly as this still sprite is positioned now.

@ Cartoons!- Yours seems to be the most popular, and the popularity is well-desevred. It totally gives the "just try something you little bastard" that you were going for with the expression and posing. Out of all of the back sprites avalible so far, I must say that yours is the best out there.

I just have two things that I need to comment upon.

First of all, I find his head a little too much of a cubical shape in comparison to Cyzir's original art. It is my opinion that you can vastly improve this sprite by going in and making the head a little rounder.

Second of all, out of these three possible shinies:


The one on the right is the best one, although the black drills on the leftmost one work too. I would actually would like to see what the one on the right looks like with black drills just for comparison's sake.

Overall, I must say that everyone is working hard to produce good sprites for our beloved CAP9. Good luck to you all.

Edit:

On the contrary, I believe this cubical style is what makes it seem like a whale, not a huge sand worm. Its the noticable angles that create the illusion of it looking "down" on you, not "at" you.

Elegy of Emptiness, you do provide good points and I agree with that analysis of the cubical shape. My only concern is that it is simply inconsistant with Cyzir's artwork, as previously stated. I merely pointed it out because I would be messing around trying to make it remain as imposing as it is while still making it consistant with said artwork.

I also would like to make a disclaimer and say this just in case my message was unclear: I don't post with the intention of saying that something MUST be done, but with the intention of saying that it is something that should be strongly CONSIDERED and, in this case, I certianly hope that I did not portray the former in all of my above comments towards the aforementioned artists. Obviously, what I post is an opinion and, therefore, open to disagreement (so long as you expect that I might say something.

I also would like to point out that I did adjust the wording slightly in my comment about the cubical shape to make my message a little more clear if anyone cares.
 
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