Hi All,
I've finally got some time to get this sorted.
CaP Prevos can finally commence movepool updates following all of the CaP Propers being fully updated to include IoA Tutor moves. I would like to do movepool passes over all of the pre-Gen 8 prevos, and hopefully some of the super talented movepool makers can "adjust" some of the levels so they match up better with their parents. Currently most prevos are still on their Gen 7 movesets with maybe some Gen 8 added Egg Moves. I want to get these fully updated as the next part of CaP. The exception to this ofcourse would be already Gen 8 babies.
I'm making this thread for two reasons, A) to kick off this entire process and B) to get some quick ideas on what people would like to see. I feel like we could do a lot of this on Discord (I can get a channel made up for this), the main issue with this is that I am European and I know a lot of the CaP Regulars are American, so discussion time with me would be limited. I'm open to ideas on this one. We can make every movepool as a thread, or we can just discuss what would need to be removed from a parents movepool on Discord and go to a thread from there.
I do know that Nohface, Monohm and Duohm, Protowatt and our latest bouncing baby, Dorsoil all need movepools created from their parents. I think the easiest way to do this is to just make them as Gen 8 movepools and ignore the fact that they "existed" before. Obviously, we can go backwards at some point if we would like, but I think for right now to get them playable, we should just use their parents' Gen 8 movepools and create from there. This would finally complete the Gen 4 prevos.
I've spoken to a few people and they have highlighted some moves already which may be problematic to "Gen 8 CaPLC". One of these has already been half solved in that Cawmodore has had Belly Drum moved to an Evo move, which would allow us to remove it from Cawdet. I don't think many transfer moves of note would be lost outside of things like Toxic, but obviously Drum Cawdet was an issue previously to the point where it was "soft banned". I've also had Syclar mentioned to me as potential issues for CaPLC (Syclar's Physical movepool making it very difficult to handle). We would need to decide how we want to handle moves/scenarios like this. Especially where we have the opportunity to remove them entirely from the mon (or make some sort of complex ban because of it). If we decide no transfers, we screw Necturine but fix Cawdet for example.
All of the other prevos: Syclar, Embirch, Flarelm, Breezi, Rebble, Tactite, Privatyke, Voodoll, Scratchet, Necturine, Cupra, Argalis, Brattler, Cawdet, Volkritter, Snugglow, Floatoy, Caimanoe, Pluffle, Mumbao, Fawnifer, Electrelk, Smogecko, Smoguana, Swirlpool, Coribalis and Justyke will need to have updates completed and then put into Showdown. This is going to be a lot of work even after we manage to decide how we want to do this as the coding is not easy. These movepool passes should be much easier to complete as we have history of their existence and the new movepools from their parents. There's no strict time frame on this, but I can't see us taking much more than till the end of April to get this sorted.
I want to be clear here as well: The scope of this is just movepools. We aren't looking at power levels or ability changes at this time.
Let's get this done!
I've finally got some time to get this sorted.
CaP Prevos can finally commence movepool updates following all of the CaP Propers being fully updated to include IoA Tutor moves. I would like to do movepool passes over all of the pre-Gen 8 prevos, and hopefully some of the super talented movepool makers can "adjust" some of the levels so they match up better with their parents. Currently most prevos are still on their Gen 7 movesets with maybe some Gen 8 added Egg Moves. I want to get these fully updated as the next part of CaP. The exception to this ofcourse would be already Gen 8 babies.
I'm making this thread for two reasons, A) to kick off this entire process and B) to get some quick ideas on what people would like to see. I feel like we could do a lot of this on Discord (I can get a channel made up for this), the main issue with this is that I am European and I know a lot of the CaP Regulars are American, so discussion time with me would be limited. I'm open to ideas on this one. We can make every movepool as a thread, or we can just discuss what would need to be removed from a parents movepool on Discord and go to a thread from there.
I do know that Nohface, Monohm and Duohm, Protowatt and our latest bouncing baby, Dorsoil all need movepools created from their parents. I think the easiest way to do this is to just make them as Gen 8 movepools and ignore the fact that they "existed" before. Obviously, we can go backwards at some point if we would like, but I think for right now to get them playable, we should just use their parents' Gen 8 movepools and create from there. This would finally complete the Gen 4 prevos.
I've spoken to a few people and they have highlighted some moves already which may be problematic to "Gen 8 CaPLC". One of these has already been half solved in that Cawmodore has had Belly Drum moved to an Evo move, which would allow us to remove it from Cawdet. I don't think many transfer moves of note would be lost outside of things like Toxic, but obviously Drum Cawdet was an issue previously to the point where it was "soft banned". I've also had Syclar mentioned to me as potential issues for CaPLC (Syclar's Physical movepool making it very difficult to handle). We would need to decide how we want to handle moves/scenarios like this. Especially where we have the opportunity to remove them entirely from the mon (or make some sort of complex ban because of it). If we decide no transfers, we screw Necturine but fix Cawdet for example.
All of the other prevos: Syclar, Embirch, Flarelm, Breezi, Rebble, Tactite, Privatyke, Voodoll, Scratchet, Necturine, Cupra, Argalis, Brattler, Cawdet, Volkritter, Snugglow, Floatoy, Caimanoe, Pluffle, Mumbao, Fawnifer, Electrelk, Smogecko, Smoguana, Swirlpool, Coribalis and Justyke will need to have updates completed and then put into Showdown. This is going to be a lot of work even after we manage to decide how we want to do this as the coding is not easy. These movepool passes should be much easier to complete as we have history of their existence and the new movepools from their parents. There's no strict time frame on this, but I can't see us taking much more than till the end of April to get this sorted.
I want to be clear here as well: The scope of this is just movepools. We aren't looking at power levels or ability changes at this time.
Let's get this done!
