College Football 2010-2011

CaptKirby

CaptKirby

First day, and already one "upset". The ridiculous notion that preseason rankings should exist and the ridiculous notion that BCS busting did not already prove little schools can compete come to a head with Utah beating Pittsburgh 27-24 in overtime!

Meanwhile, the embarrassing practice of big bully schools bullying little schools for their precious BCS rankings continues with Ohio State 45 Marshall 7 and Miami 45 whatever FAMU is 0 :(
 
I don't understand why Big Name School need to bully the little guys =(, but yes, good job to Utah, hopefully the BCS goes down one day.

And go USC, fight on!
 
Utah is good though, so I wouldnt really call it an upset. The preseason rankins always fuck over schools from smaller conferences, and Utah hasnt lost at home in what, 22 games now?

Anyway, im just hoping Boise State doesnt blow their golden opportunity this year to actually play in the BCS championship. After Va Tech their schedule is pretty weak unless they threw another big out of conference opponent on there for later in the season
 
I wasn't really surprised to see Utah beat Pitt, because Utah tends to do big things. Pitt isn't really a top caliber team anyway. However, it is an upset worth talking about, congrats to Utah for kicking more BCS ass.

Saturday should be exciting with Vatech's match, TCU-OSU, and UNC-LSU. I think boise's got this thing. They have everything on the line week 1, and they know what they are playing for. TCU is just better than OSU, really, but LSU and UNC looks like a close game. I really dont see why LSU is good outside of the fact that they are consistant winners. I really dont think we will see them end up in the top 25 when the polls really matter, at the season's end. UNC wins it.

And of course my hawkeyes beat up on eastern Illinois. Go hawkeyes!
 
ShadowPikachuXD said:
I don't understand why Big Name School need to bully the little guys =(, but yes, good job to Utah, hopefully the BCS goes down one day.

And go USC, fight on!
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pfft fuck USC, they violated rules and I hope they go 7-6 (though the Heisman and Championship vacating is patently ridiculous)

Big name schools bully little schools because of the bowl system - why face every team in your conference when you could lose? much better to take 2-4 games to beat up a fringe division I school or I-AA school and go 2-0 to 4-0? If I recall correctly, only Stanford and USC do not pull this bullshit, kudos to both for that (Washington did not but just changed the policy I think?)

Lakers said:
Utah is good though, so I wouldnt really call it an upset. The preseason rankins always fuck over schools from smaller conferences, and Utah hasnt lost at home in what, 22 games now?
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I said "upset" for a reason! Utah has won when it counts time after time, they are completely legitimate. I just liked it, everyone was inflating the value of Pitt so randomly, and first game and down for the count (although they could still go 10-2 and be a top 10 team).

coolking49 said:
Saturday should be exciting with Vatech's match, TCU-OSU, and UNC-LSU. I think boise's got this thing. They have everything on the line week 1, and they know what they are playing for. TCU is just better than OSU, really, but LSU and UNC looks like a close game. I really dont see why LSU is good outside of the fact that they are consistant winners. I really dont think we will see them end up in the top 25 when the polls really matter, at the season's end. UNC wins it.

And of course my hawkeyes beat up on eastern Illinois. Go hawkeyes!
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TCU has balls. They were the last team to beat OU at home I think? They play OU, UT, Big 12 teams in general. They do not "have" to do that, they could play all little guy and get away with it.

WaterBomb said:
UVA continues to make me sad :(.
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hey buck up your school can go 6-6 and make a meaningless bowl!
 
Although I hate Lane Kiffin and the USC program, I do feel sorry for their players. Too bad they have to get punished for something they weren't involved in whatsoever.

Also we all know Boise state is going to get fucked over whether they beat the Hokies or not.

And yeah I don't really see Utah beating Pitt as some huge upset. Pre Season rankings are retarded bc Ohio State isn't ranked number 1.

Speaking of OSU, they're winning the National Championship and I'm not saying that because I am a student :)
 
HeroMasaki said:
Although I hate Lane Kiffin and the USC program, I do feel sorry for their players. Too bad they have to get punished for something they weren't involved in whatsoever.

Also we all know Boise state is going to get fucked over whether they beat the Hokies or not.

And yeah I don't really see Utah beating Pitt as some huge upset. Pre Season rankings are retarded bc Ohio State isn't ranked number 1.

Speaking of OSU, they're winning the National Championship and I'm not saying that because I am a student :)
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Yeah, I feel sorry for the USC people too, but what else could the NCAA do? its not like anyone cares if a team won the NC 5 years ago.

The BCS will do anything to stop BSU from playing in the title game. That bheing said, they can only do so much, and this is their year. I wouldnt be surprised if they didnt get picked after going undefeated, but with teams like Alabama playing Penn State AND going through the SEC schedule, OSU facing Miami AND playing IOwa and Wisconsin on the road, etc, I wouldnt be surprised to see the best teams having two losses by the end of the season.

Also, OSU will not win the big ten as long as Adrian Clayborn is on his feet.

Go hawks!
 
Damn straight OSU can't win the Big Ten. It's because of my Michigan Wolverines!

......

/me sobs

Hopefully we can at least beat Connecticut tomorrow...
 
im hoping Brian Kelly can at least somewhat prepare ND week in and out since Charlie Weiss might of been the worst coach ever in college football
 
ShadowPikachuXD said:
I don't understand why Big Name School need to bully the little guys =(, but yes, good job to Utah, hopefully the BCS goes down one day.

And go USC, fight on!
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the little schools get money for playing bigger schools. so it helps them out.

nnone of the games are really that interesting to me today except for Boise State v. V. Tech. I'm predicting Boise by a touchdown.
 
I don't get the point of official preseason rankings. Just wait for the second week to come up with your rankings. That way, teams don't get screwed over and overrated teams can get placed lower.

Happy that my Yellow Jackets won, but they probably will go either 9-3 or 10-2. Florida didn't look strong at all today, which I was hoping that the team would still look good, albeit differently compared to the Tebow era. For tonight, I hope LSU crushes UNC just for the fact that they're overrated as fuck even with their starters.

I don't really like Boise State, but I wish them the best of luck this year. All they have to do is beat Virginia Tech and Oregon State and they're in the NCG (I seriously doubt that Alabama will go undefeated this year, and who knows what tOSU will do). I'm actually thinking either UT or OU will make it to the NCG. Both really good teams, if a bit underrated. All in all, I expect the NCG to be Boise State and UT/OU. Me personally, I hoped that the Gators would make it in, but definitely not the way how they were playing today.
 
Alan said:
the little schools get money for playing bigger schools. so it helps them out.

nnone of the games are really that interesting to me today except for Boise State v. V. Tech. I'm predicting Boise by a touchdown.
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Making a person eat shit naked on national television would help them out, but it would still be an embarrassment for her/him and the world at large for it happening. You can take that as hyperbole if you want, but I really do not think it is - big name colleges bully the fuck out of little ones, throw them some pitiful cash, and say "we square right?" It is a gross embarrassment to all big name colleges and to the system. No big name college should play a SINGLE little guy. All Big 12 teams should all be playing each other and the like.

Lakers said:
im hoping Brian Kelly can at least somewhat prepare ND week in and out since Charlie Weiss might of been the worst coach ever in college football
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Huh? He was basically the same as Ty Willingham (right name?) in effectiveness. I think losing that USC game to bullshit kind of broke the spirit of the Weis era, unfortunately, not that it excuses how bad it was. Either way, nothing that indicates he was the worst college coach ever, he only had one super terrible year.
 
CaptKirby I think you are wrong. First off, the big name schools do not always win against the smaller schools (my Wolverines are proof of this...), and second, smaller schools LOVE that they can usually get a shot at getting National television exposure and a chance to prove themselves. On top of this, the money made from games like this is usually what helps the smaller programs keep going. I agree most of them are not interesting to watch as a fan, but if fans as a whole want to come and see the game, if the big name schools want it AND if the little schools want it, what's the problem?

Also my Wolverines might not be quite as bad as expected this year wooo!
 
Just because there are exceptions to the rule, what exactly do you think that proves? So 4 "big name" schools manage to lose a year out of like 200 games of these sorts. Holy upset, Batman! Why does it matter if it is some sort of a "chance" if it is a chance that works out at a ratio of 1% or 2% or 3%? That is terrible.

Just because small schools are as greedy for attention as big schools is supposed to make it all okay? Every time a school hangs 52-0 or 52-3 on another school it is an embarrassment to everyone involved, especially the hard working players being wrecked with "national" exposure. Just because people care more when the little team wins the 1/50 times than the big team winning the 49/50 times does not make this situation magically different, it makes people fucking terrible.
 
CaptKirby said:
Huh? He was basically the same as Ty Willingham (right name?) in effectiveness. I think losing that USC game to bullshit kind of broke the spirit of the Weis era, unfortunately, not that it excuses how bad it was. Either way, nothing that indicates he was the worst college coach ever, he only had one super terrible year.
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Effectiveness numbers clearly dont tell the whole story then. Charlie only won the first two seasons with Ty Will's recruits, and it was obvious in the post Brady Quinn Era that Weis was terrible. If you watched a majority of the ND games, you'd see how bad of a coach he actually was. ND was never prepared for a game ever, and it was shown weak in and out. oo and running it on 3rd and 2 and then 4th and 2 like he did a few games shows hes not much of a genius

And yes, that year it should've been ND vs Texas for the national ship although, its still ND's fault for allowing Leinart to convert on 4th and 10 for what was it, around a 60 yard pass on 4th and 10 to allow USC into the red zone?
 
weis was horrible, that team was poorly conditioned and did not play effectively at all. most notre dame fans realize how terrible he was.

im not sure what to think of notre dame yet, brian kelly seems like hes going to pay off big time but so much dissappointment over the years with better talent on the team makes me worry.

but 1-0 is a good start!
 
I just got home from the Florida/ Miami (OH) game. Oh my god, it was pitifull. If Pouncey has any preformance like that next week he's done. And what the hell was up with Urban's play calling? Going for it on all but 4th and 31? 2 out of 5 isn't that great, but importantly... why go for it 5 times?
 
Nozizaki, going for it every time on 4th and short at any place on the field will theoretically benefit any team or something like that, even moreso if a good one. If everyone realized this and followed this, of course, then that benefit would return back to neutral. It really works, especially past the 40 - a team should never punt at the opponents 40 or closer.
 
I understand, but Sturgis could have kicked it in for 2 of those 4th downs, one of them was for a touch down, so I guess it did pay off. Still, that was one ugly win.
 
If it's 4-1/2/3, and you have a strong running attack, why not go for it, especially if you're around midfield? Hell, even if you have a good passing attack, why not?
 
CaptKirby said:
Just because there are exceptions to the rule, what exactly do you think that proves? So 4 "big name" schools manage to lose a year out of like 200 games of these sorts. Holy upset, Batman! Why does it matter if it is some sort of a "chance" if it is a chance that works out at a ratio of 1% or 2% or 3%? That is terrible.

Just because small schools are as greedy for attention as big schools is supposed to make it all okay? Every time a school hangs 52-0 or 52-3 on another school it is an embarrassment to everyone involved, especially the hard working players being wrecked with "national" exposure. Just because people care more when the little team wins the 1/50 times than the big team winning the 49/50 times does not make this situation magically different, it makes people fucking terrible.
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Jacksonville State just beat Ole Miss in double overtime with a series of dramatic plays, in a game that will probably be remembered for a long time. But they probably shouldn't have been allowed to play Ole Miss because it would be equivalent to forcing them to "eat shit on National television", right?

Seriously, these games benefit everyone, even the majority of fans like them. I really don't see why the NCAA should discontinue them merely because most of them are not overly competitive.
 
UncleSam said:
Jacksonville State just beat Ole Miss in double overtime with a series of dramatic plays, in a game that will probably be remembered for a long time. But they probably shouldn't have been allowed to play Ole Miss because it would be equivalent to forcing them to "eat shit on National television", right?

Seriously, these games benefit everyone, even the majority of fans like them. I really don't see why the NCAA should discontinue them merely because most of them are not overly competitive.
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Why do you keep saying it benefits everyone? Please look at the number of 40 point wins today in the top 25 at the expense of hapless foes and tell me which of those 40 point losers was benefited. Some small % of upsets does not mean anything.

Nozizaki said:
Most were 4-4.
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Of course a 1/2 yard play is a higher conversion rate, but an average play is over 5 yards in the nfl, not sure about college (but I assume it is about the same). 4th and 4 is not a wild risk like everyone acts.
 
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