SPOILERS! [Crown Tundra!] List of Movepool Changes

Serperior probably will get Scale Shot at least, a number of other reptiles and snakes in particulars do.
and Grassy Glide too

Typhlosion with scorching sand, Muk with tear shot, Frostmoth with Powder

Feraligatr and scale shot anybody??? Jaw lock???

Torterra will be interesting in future if it gets Grassy Glide, Scorching sand.... (and accelrock maybe)
 
For the remaining starters I can see them getting these tutor moves
Meganium: Grassy Glide
Typhlosion: Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands
Feraligatr: Scale Shot
Sceptile: Grassy Glide, Scale Shot
Blaziken: Burning Jealousy, Coaching, Scorching Sands
Swampert: Flip Turn, Lash Out
Torterra: Steel Roller
Infernape: Coaching, Scorching Sands
Empoleon: Flip Turn, Lash Out
Serperior: Grassy Glide, Scale Shot, Terrain Pulse
Emboar: Burning Jealousy, Coaching, Scorching Sands, Steel Roller
Samurott: Scale Shot
Chesnaught: Coaching, Grassy Glide, Steel Roller
Delphox: Expanding Force, Scorching Sands
Greninja: Lash Out, Triple Axel
 
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A day late, but with the leak of the new Hidden Ability item, we have more additions to movepools of old Pokemon! Previously illegal combinations of moves and hidden abilities are now legal, expanding the options of Pokemon who really needed it, like Clefable.

Shoutouts to the other Matt and those who discovered it!
Thanks to readytolose for compiling a list! It's linked in the OP as well: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threa...datamine-thread.3656143/page-115#post-8543091

To see these new options (and a cursed thumbnail) in video form, click here:
 
A day late, but with the leak of the new Hidden Ability item, we have more additions to movepools of old Pokemon! Previously illegal combinations of moves and hidden abilities are now legal, expanding the options of Pokemon who really needed it, like Clefable.
So I have an actual curiosity on this and that is... does doing this on a pokemon with unreleased HA (like gen 8 fossils) flag them as illegal in VGC/battle spot?
 
So I have an actual curiosity on this and that is... does doing this on a pokemon with unreleased HA (like gen 8 fossils) flag them as illegal in VGC/battle spot?
It shouldn't, because the NPC only wipes out your moves, not change abilities, and by that time. The Hidden Abilities of every single available Pokémon will be legal, thus usable in Battle Stadium and VGC
 
It shouldn't, because the NPC only wipes out your moves, not change abilities, and by that time. The Hidden Abilities of every single available Pokémon will be legal, thus usable in Battle Stadium and VGC
I don't mean once Tundra releases, I mean right now :psynervous:
Since the item is tecnically available but isn't meant to be, and there are a handful of unreleased HAs (like gen 8 fossils) that would become available with it.
 
I don't mean once Tundra releases, I mean right now :psynervous:
Since the item is tecnically available but isn't meant to be, and there are a handful of unreleased HAs (like gen 8 fossils) that would become available with it.
My guess is that the game would flag them as illegal and not allow them to be usable in BSS / VGC, just as BW/ B2W2 did with Pokemon with unreleased HAs.

On the other hand, however, given the huge amount of people running around in raids with obviously hacked shiny legendaries and people using Libero Cinderace in BSS months before its official release and GF botching their own shiny Zeraora distribution (it was fixed in less than a day, but it was still pretty glaring since it was an official distribution that triggered their own hack check), I have my doubts :blobshrug:.
 
Full Tutor Move Compatibility for every Pokémon currently not in Sword & Shield

:Beedrill: Dual Wingbeat, Skitter Smack
:Pidgeot: Dual Wingbeat
:Raticate-Alola: Burning Jealousy, Lash Out
:Fearow: Dual Wingbeat
:Arbok: Scale Shot, Skitter Smack
:Nidoqueen: Scorching Sands
:Nidoking: Scorching Sands
:Parasect: Grassy Glide, Skitter Smack
:Venomoth: Dual Wingbeat
:Primeape: Coaching, Lash Out
:Victreebel: Grassy Glide
:Golem: Meteor Beam, Scorching Sands, Steel Roller
:Golem-Alola: Meteor Beam, Rising Voltage, Scorching Sands, Steel Roller
:Dewgong: Flip Turn, Triple Axel
:Muk: Skitter Smack
:Muk-Alola: Skitter Smack
:Hypno: Expanding Force
:Electrode: Rising Voltage, Steel Roller
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Expanding Force, Triple Axel
:Omastar: Meteor Beam
:Kabutops: Meteor Beam
:Aerodactyl: Dual Wingbeat, Meteor Beam
:Articuno: Dual Wingbeat, Triple Axel
:Zapdos: Dual Wingbeat, Rising Voltage
:Moltres: Burning Jealousy, Dual Wingbeat, Scorching Sands
:Dragonite: Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot
:Meganium: Grassy Glide
:Typhlosion: Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands
:Feraligatr: Scale Shot
:Ledian: Dual Wingbeat
:Ariados: Skitter Smack
:Crobat: Dual Wingbeat
:Ampharos: Rising Voltage
:Sunflora: Grassy Glide
:Girafarig: Expanding Force
:Forretress: Steel Roller
:Magcargo: Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands, Skitter Smack
:Houndoom: Burning Jealousy, Lash Out, Scorching Sands
:Donphan: Scorching Sands, Steel Roller
:Raikou: Rising Voltage
:Entei: Scorching Sands
:Lugia: Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot
:Ho-Oh: Dual Wingbeat, Scorching Sands
:Sceptile: Grassy Glide, Scale Shot
:Blaziken: Coaching, Scorching Sands
:Mightyena: Burning Jealousy, Lash Out
:Beautifly: Dual Wingbeat, Skitter Smack
:Dustox: Dual Wingbeat, Skitter Smack
:Swellow: Dual Wingbeat
:Masquerain: Dual Wingbeat
:Breloom: Coaching, Grassy Glide
:Hariyama: Coaching
:Aggron: Meteor Beam, Steel Roller
:Medicham: Coaching, Expanding Force
:Plusle: Rising Voltage
:Minun: Rising Voltage
:Volbeat: Dual Wingbeat
:Illumise: Dual Wingbeat
:Swalot: Corrosive Gas, Skitter Smack
:Camerupt: Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands
:Grumpig: Expanding Force
:Cacturne: Grassy Glide
:Altaria: Dual Wingbeat
:Seviper: Scale Shot, Skitter Smack
:Cradily: Grassy Glide, Meteor Beam
:Armaldo: Meteor Beam
:Kecleon: Scale Shot
:Banette: Poltergeist, Skitter Smack
:Tropius: Dual Wingbeat
:Chimecho: Expanding Force
:Walrein: Steel Roller
:Huntail: Flip Turn, Scale Shot
:Gorebyss: Flip Turn, Scale Shot
:Relicanth: Meteor Beam, Scale Shot
:Luvdisc: Flip Turn, Scale Shot
:Salamence: Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot
:Metagross: Expanding Force, Meteor Beam, Steel Roller
:Regirock: Meteor Beam
:Registeel: Meteor Beam, Steel Roller
:Latias: Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot
:Latios: Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot
:Groudon: Scorching Sands
:Rayquaza: Meteor Beam, Scale Shot
:Deoxys: Expanding Force, Meteor Beam
:Torterra: Grassy Glide, Skitter Smack
:Infernape: Coaching, Scorching Sands
:Staraptor: Dual Wingbeat
:Rampardos: Meteor Beam
:Bastiodon: Meteor Beam, Steel Roller
:Wormadam: Dual Wingbeat, Grassy Glide
:Wormadam-Sandy: Dual Wingbeat
:Wormadam-Trash: Dual Wingbeat
:Mothim: Dual Wingbeat
:Pachirisu: Rising Voltage
:Floatzel: Flip Turn
:Mismagius: Poltergeist, Skitter Smack
:Honchkrow: Dual Wingbeat, Lash Out
:Chatot: Dual Wingbeat
:Spiritomb: Lash Out, Poltergeist
:Garchomp: Scale Shot, Scorching Sands
:Lumineon: Dual Wingbeat, Flip Turn, Scale Shot, Triple Axel
:Electivire: Rising Voltage
:Magmortar: Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands
:Yanmega: Dual Wingbeat
:Gliscor: Dual Wingbeat
:Probopass: Meteor Beam, Steel Roller
:Uxie: Expanding Force
:Mesprit: Expanding Force
:Azelf: Expanding Force
:Dialga: Scale Shot
:Palkia: Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot
:Heatran: Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands, Steel Roller
:Regigigas: Terrain Pulse
:Giratina: Dual Wingbeat, Poltergeist
:Cresselia: Expanding Force
:Phione: Flip Turn
:Manaphy: Flip Turn
:Darkrai: Lash Out
:Shaymin: Grassy Glide
:Arceus: Terrain Pulse
:Victini: Expanding Force, Scorching Sands
:Serperior: Grassy Glide, Scale Shot
:Emboar: Coaching, Scorching Sands
:Simisage: Grassy Glide
:Simisear: Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands
:Simipour: Flip Turn
:Zebstrika: Rising Voltage
:Leavanny: Grassy Glide, Skitter Smack
:Carracosta: Meteor Beam
:Archeops: Dual Wingbeat, Lash Out, Meteor Beam
:Swanna: Dual Wingbeat, Triple Axel
:Sawsbuck: Grassy Glide
:Alomomola: Scale Shot
:Eelektross: Rising Voltage
:Cryogonal: Triple Axel
:Tornadus: Lash Out
:Thundurus: Lash Out, Rising Voltage
:Landorus: Scorching Sands
:Meloetta: Coaching, Expanding Force, Triple Axel
:Chesnaught: Coaching, Grassy Glide, Steel Roller
:Delphox: Burning Jealousy, Expanding Force, Scorching Sands
:Greninja: Skitter Smack
:Vivillon: Dual Wingbeat, Skitter Smack
:Pyroar: Scorching Sands
:Florges: Grassy Glide
:Gogoat: Grassy Glide
:Tyrantrum: Lash Out, Meteor Beam, Scale Shot
:Aurorus: Meteor Beam
:Carbink: Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion
:Xerneas: Misty Explosion
:Yveltal: Dual Wingbeat, Lash Out
:Zygarde: Scale Shot, Scorching Sands, Skitter Smack
:Diancie: Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion
:Hoopa: Expanding Force, Lash Out, Poltergeist
:Volcanion: Scorching Sands
:Toucannon: Dual Wingbeat
:Crabominable: Coaching
:Oricorio: Dual Wingbeat
:Minior: Meteor Beam, Steel Roller
:Bruxish: Expanding Force, Scale Shot
:Tapu Koko: Misty Explosion, Rising Voltage, Terrain Pulse
:Tapu Lele: Expanding Force, Misty Explosion, Terrain Pulse
:Tapu Bulu: Grassy Glide, Misty Explosion, Terrain Pulse
:Tapu Fini: Flip Turn, Misty Explosion, Terrain Pulse
:Nihilego: Corrosive Gas, Meteor Beam
:Buzzwole: Coaching, Dual Wingbeat
:Pheromosa: Coaching, Skitter Smack
:Xurkitree: Rising Voltage
:Celesteela: Grassy Glide, Steel Roller
:Kartana: Grassy Glide
:Guzzlord: Lash Out, Steel Roller
:Naganadel: Dual Wingbeat
:Stakataka: Meteor Beam, Steel Roller
:Blacephalon: Expanding Force, Scorching Sands
 
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You know I'm pretty sure Volcarona is the only Fire type that didn't get Scorching Sands.... WHY!? balance is the only excuse but would Volcarona really be that op with ground coverage?
From an OU perspective (which gamefreak ignores, obviously), it would hit Toxapex, Heatran, and Tyranitar for SE damage in one moveslot. Only the pink blobs would be safe switch-ins. I'll edit this later with comments on which mons benefit most from the new moves.
 
From an OU perspective (which gamefreak ignores, obviously), it would hit Toxapex, Heatran, and Tyranitar for SE damage in one moveslot. Only the pink blobs would be safe switch-ins. I'll edit this later with comments on which mons benefit most from the new moves.
Isn't Bug Buzz already not enough for Tyranitar ?
 
Grassy Glide requires the user to be grounded for its effect, right? What's the point of giving it to Celesteela then? (Shaymin is at least grounded in its land forme)
There's no real reason. It's just that Celesteela is a non-Grass type plant lifeform, so it gets the plant tutor move.
 
But doesn’t get the usual terrain boost if you’re levitating
140 BP with no terrain boost is better than 90 BP with no terrain boost in the same way that 140 BP with a terrain boost is better than 90 BP with a terrain boost. If you have Electric Terrain set up anyway, Rising Voltage hits harder than Thunderbolt whether the user is grounded or not.
(Still weird that non-grounded Pokémon are getting Expanding Force and Grassy Glide, though - they actually do require the user to be grounded to get the added effect at all.)
 

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