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Should we have Ubers slates?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 65.1%

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    Votes: 15 34.9%
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abismal

abismal

im just here for fun
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Garchompn't
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Abilities: Pastel Veil
HA: Intimidate
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Stats:
108 / 80 / 102 / 122 / 85 / 103
Loses: Earthquake, Earth Power, Scorching Sands, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Draco Meteor, Outrage, Dragon Breath, Dragon Rush, Dragon Rage, Scale Shot.
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Gains: Focus Blast, Aura Sphere, Moonblast, Dazzling Gleam, Ice Beam, Blizzard, Close Combat, Drain Punch, Mach Punch, Draining Kiss, Calm Mind.
Okay so I only have a bit of knowledge on what Garchomp does but I know its movesets consist of Earthquake, Scale Shot, Swords Dance, Stealth Rock, Toxic, Stone Edge, Fire Fang, Draco Meteor, Fire Blast etc.

Intimidate solves all of the moves on the physical side effortlessly, it also prevents Garchomp from getting too ahead of the game with swords dance. Being part fairy destroys any chance of it outspeeding and Stone edge is easily tanked. That only leaves moves like Iron Head and Poison Jab. But this alternate chomp outspeeds its base by 1 stat point anyway, either KO'ing the thing with Ice Beam or Moonblast.

Aside from the counter stuff It's useable on its own, being a fairy/fighting type with decent coverage, hitting as hard as it needs to with strong stab moves and taking care of some other pokemon like Landorus-T, Rillaboom, Tornadus and others with Ice Beam. For some gimmicky combinations if you're feeling bold you can always use Swords Dance + Stomping Tantrum for ground coverage, or you could just run mud shot since that's literally all of your good options... from what I remember.

Pastel Veil's just a generic option but it also helps wall Garchomp's Toxic sets.
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As for the calcs, I have basically none because I honestly don't care but I'll still provide them because its a requirement.

1): -1 252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 200+ Def Garchomp: 105-125 (25 - 29.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

2): 0 SpA Garchomp Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 352-416 (98.5 - 116.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

3): 252 SpA Garchomp Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tornadus-Therian: 206-244 (56.9 - 67.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

4): -1 252 Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 117-138 (27.8 - 32.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

 
G-Luke

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:ss/kartana:
Pokemon: Anti Kartana
New Stats: 59 HP / 59 Atk / 181 Def / 109 SpA / 131 SpD / 31 Spe
New Ability: Static / Competitive | HA: Volt Absorb
New Typing: Electric / Dragon
New Moves: Dragon Pulse, Aura Sphere, Draco Meteor, Volt Switch, Earth Power, Discharge, Slack Off, Ice Beam, Surf, Hydro Pump, Thunderbolt, Thunder
Removed Moves: Swords Dance, Smart Strike, Sacred Sword, All Grass type moves
Calcs: +2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Anti Kartana: 153-181 (47.5 - 56.2%) -- 81.6% chance to 2HKO

+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cyclohm: 165-195 (51.2 - 60.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anti Kartana is so bulky even +2 LO Kartana (the strongest a Kartana will reasonably be) has a hard time 2HKOing it. With that in mind, all Karts have trouble here, which gives it the leverage to swap into Kartana throughout the match and threaten an immediate KO via Aura Sphere. It can also take advantage of that switch it forces with Volt Switch.
 
Gravity Monkey

Gravity Monkey

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Pokemon: Anti-Landorus-Therian
Typing:

Abilities: Rough Skin
Stats: 89 / 130 / 120 / 95 / 70 / 96
New Moves: Thunder Punch, Ice Punch, Fire Punch, Flash Cannon, Roost, Iron Head, Steel Beam
Removed Moves: Earthquake, Fissure, Sand Tomb, Bulldoze, Earth Power, Knock Off, Rock Polish
(Anti-Lando is Skarmory here)
252 Atk Landorus-Therian Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Skarmory: 102-120 (31.9 - 37.6%) -- 91.5% chance to 3HKO
+2 252 Atk Landorus-Therian Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Skarmory: 202-238 (63.3 - 74.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Skarmory Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 12 Def Landorus-Therian: 356-420 (111.5 - 131.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Skarmory Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 112+ Def Landorus-Therian: 292-344 (76.4 - 90%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Lando can only do a handful of things against this. Either hit with Stone Edge, which does a chunk on a non-defensive set but nothing unroostable (remember that even if it's at +2, you can just roost on its face and mitigate the damage), either hit with hidden power which is rather uncommon and won't 2HKO even after rocks, and lastly maybe get toxified, in which case you have the niche option to bring heal bell. Meanwhile, the other lando is gonna get continuously chipped from u-turning and koffing on your rough skin. And worse case scenario, you have the option to run Ice Punch to just shut it down for good.

Now that it's steel type the only thing Lando can do vs to do anything is +2 Z-Rock but if you switch in on the sword dance ur gonna be fine. Also can't be toxified anymore.

G-Luke said:
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cyclohm: 165-195 (51.2 - 60.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Bobsican

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:garchomp:
Pokemon: Anti-Garchomp
New Stats: 91 / 90 / 115 / 91 / 110 / 103
New Typing: Fairy/Flying
New Ability: Delta Stream
New Moves: Fairy Wind, Moonblast, Air Slash, Drill Peck, Brave Bird, Play Rough, Ice Beam, Blizzard, Icicle Crash, Calm Mind, Volt Switch, Thunderbolt, Thunder, Thunder Fang, Defog, Life Dew, Waterfall
Removed Moves: Earthquake, Bulldoze, Earth Power, Dragon Claw, Draco Meteor, Outrage, Dragon Rush, Breaking Swipe, Dragon Breath, Dragon Rage, Twister, Mud Shot, Mud Slap, Sand Attack, Fling, Iron Tail, Metal Claw
Calcs:

252 Atk Garchomp Continental Crush (180 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp-Anti in Strong Winds: 175-206 (54.1 - 63.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp-Anti in Strong Winds: 97-115 (30 - 35.6%) -- 30.8% chance to 3HKO

The two together just do at most 321 HP in damage, meaning that it always lives if unchipped as it has 323 HP, and you can invest a bit into bulk so it lives even after rocks, then again...

0 SpA Garchomp-Anti Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 218-258 (61 - 72.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Garchomp-Mega Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp-Anti: 115-136 (35.6 - 42.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Garchomp-Mega Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp-Anti in Strong Winds: 119-140 (36.8 - 43.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Overall, it is straight up immune to the STABs Garchomp can do, and can take on anything else it can do (Even remove its hazards or set your own) and because of this it can freely pivot with Volt Switch as Garchomp doesn't want to stay on it in fear of a Moonblast.
Delta Stream not only covers its weakness to Rock, it also prevents Mega Garchomp from using Sand Force at all, making this a very strong counter for it, especially considering that it can even outspeed it without needing to compromise its bulk for the task.

:kartana:
Pokemon: Anti-Kartana
New Stats: 83 / 161 / 143 / 61 / 11 / 111
New Typing: Fire/Flying
New Ability: Justified
New Moves: Ember, Incinerate, Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Flame Charge, Fire Punch, Flare Blitz, Curse, Solar Beam, Peck, Acrobatics, Meditate, Roost, Quiver Dance
Removed Moves: Giga Drain, Leaf Blade, Razor Leaf, Smart Strike, Steel Beam, X-Scissor, Swords Dance, Calm Mind, Sacred Sword, Brick Break, Fury Cutter, Knock Off, Detect, Night Slash
Calcs:
252 Atk Choice Band Kartana Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 196 Def Kartana-Anti: 130-153 (42.3 - 49.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0- SpA Kartana Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kartana-Anti: 128-151 (41.6 - 49.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 Atk Kartana-Anti Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kartana: 732-864 (282.6 - 333.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

While it looks like Kartana but even more minmaxed, there's also a catch - it has way worse coverage and mediocre Flying STAB, but beyond that, it's an offensive threat to prepare for, however, because of the above it can't do much to classic walls like Toxapex and Slowbro, and is easily OHKO'd by most special attacks, but regarding Kartana, the way that counters it is interesting. It resists all of the moves Kartana generally runs, except Knock Off, however, being Knocked Off triggers Justified, meaning that not only Kartana is going to die next turn, you may also end the game if the opposing team is weared down enought to fall to +1 Flare Blitz and can't revenge kill it.

:landorus_therian:
Pokemon: Anti-Landorus-Therian
New Stats: 70 / 98 / 130 / 100 / 110 / 92
New Typing: Steel/Ghost
New Ability: Levitate
New Moves: Mirror Shot, Flash Cannon, Steel Beam, Iron Head, Ice Beam, Blizzard, Ice Fang, Astonish, Shadow Ball, Poltergeist, Shadow Sneak, Shadow Claw, Work Up
Removed Moves: Earth Power, Earthquake, Bulldoze, Dig, Fissure, Mud Shot, Sand Tomb, Outrage, Psychic, Extrasensory, Gravity, Imprison, Role Play
Calcs:

252 Atk Landorus-Therian Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 228 HP / 252+ Def Landorus-Therian-Anti: 138-164 (40.8 - 48.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
24 SpA Landorus-Therian-Anti Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-Therian: 320-380 (100.3 - 119.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Lando-T can't really do anything to this, it's immune to Toxic, Superpower, Explosion and of course Earthquake, all while also resisting Z-Stone Edge and Z-Fly, allowing it to force it out without much thought.

Also, Gravity Monkey, your Anti-Lando dies to Z-Fly sets in general
252 Atk Landorus-Therian Supersonic Skystrike (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus-Therian-Anti: 530-626 (166.1 - 196.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Gyltia

Gyltia


Pokemon: Anti-Landorus-T
New Stats: 89 / 90 / 130 / 115 / 80 / 96 (600)
New Typing:

New Abilities: Competitive
New Moves: Spiky Shield, Giga Drain, Energy Ball, Power Whip, Seed Bomb, Synthesis, Leech Seed, Scorching Sands, Power Gem, Meteor Beam
Removed Moves: Explosion, Self-Destruct, Fly, Swords Dance, Superpower, U-Turn, Hammer Arm, Outrage, Rock Slide, Stone Edge
Calcs:
+2 252 Atk Landorus-Therian Supersonic Skystrike (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def protected Anti-LandoT: 186-219 (48.6 - 57.3%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Anti-LandoT: 105-125 (27.4 - 32.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+2 252 Atk Landorus-Therian Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Landorus: 137-162 (35.8 - 42.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

+2 0 SpA Anti-LandoT Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-Therian: 468-552 (122.5 - 144.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

This counters Lando-T sweeper sets particularly well, as it resists Edgequake and isn’t 2hKOed by +2 Knock Off. It has spiky shield to tank an eventual Z-Flying move, after which Lando can’t deal enough damage to win the duel. Additionally, it wins the lead battle by taking advantage of Intimidate to boost its SpA, meaning it can one-shot any Landorus set with hp ice without offensive investment.
 
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ChoiceScarfed

ChoiceScarfed

:ss/kartana:
Pokemon: Anti-Kartana
New Stats: 65/80/115/120/70/110
New Ability: Rough Skin
New Typing:

New Moves: Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Focus Blast, Aura Sphere, EMBER
Removed Moves: All grass moves, Smart Strike, Knock Off.
Calcs:
0 SpA Antikart Ember vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kartana: 480-568 (185.3 - 219.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Abomasnow Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Kartana: 296-350 (91.9 - 108.6%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Kartana Sacred Sword vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Antikart: 118-140 (36.7 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Antikart: 88-105 (27.4 - 32.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Kartana Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Antikart: 64-75 (19.9 - 23.3%) -- possible 5HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Kartana Sacred Sword vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Abomasnow: 235-278 (73.2 - 86.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
And EMBER OHKOs kartana, so... Do I even need to calc flamethrower or fire blast?

:ss/landorus-therian:
Pokemon: Anti-Landorus-Therian
New Stats: 90/60/100/130/90/130
New Ability: Competitive, Levitate
New Typing:

New Moves: Ice Beam, Flash Cannon, Ice Shard, Steel Beam, Nasty Plot, Blizzard
Removed Moves: All fighting moves, earthquake, rock slide.
Calcs:
252+ SpA AntiLando Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Landorus-Therian: 592-700 (154.9 - 183.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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zxgzxg

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:ss/kartana:
Pokemon: Anti-Kartana
Type: Grass/Fighting
Ability: Fluffy
Stats: 59 / 83 / 131 / 97 / 139 / 61
New Moves: Aura Sphere, Body Press, Close Combat, Focus Blast, Recover
Removed Moves: Flash Cannon, Iron Defense, Smart Strike, Steel Beam, Swords Dance
Description: Bulky physical wall with a really bad typing. Also doubles as a check to Rillaboom, non-Ice Beam Greninja-Ash, non-Dragonium Garchomp, and non-Flyinium Landorus-Therian
Defensive
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Smart Strike vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Kartana: 114-135 (35.5 - 42%) -- 84.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Sacred Sword vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Kartana: 97-115 (30.2 - 35.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Kartana: 73-86 (22.7 - 26.7%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Kartana: 53-62 (16.5 - 19.3%) -- possible 6HKO
Offensive
252+ Def Kartana Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kartana: 230-272 (88.8 - 105%) -- 31.3% chance to OH
 
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EeveeGirl1380

EeveeGirl1380

New Pokemon: Anti-Landorus-Therian
New Stats: 110/85/145/130/75/55
New Ability: Trace
New Type: Steel/Flying
New Moves: Flash Cannon, Steel Beam, Ice Beam, Blizzard, Iron Defense, Air Slash
ReMoved: All Ground type moves, all rock type moves, Hammer Arm
Calcs: +6 252+ Atk Landorus-Therian Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Anti-Landorus-Therian: 287-338 (75.1 - 88.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
0 SpA Anti-Landorus-Therian Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Landorus-Therian: 296-352 (77.4 - 92.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Summary: Steel/Flying is a great type to deal with Lando-T, only being hit with Stone Edge on its main sets, and resisting just about everything else. It has a massive defense stat and doesn't care about Intimidate. In fact, it can use Intimidate against Landorus-Therian by taking advantage of Trace. It also gets Ice Beam and Blizzard, which lets it bop Lando-T into the North Pole. It also has access to Calm Mind from its base from, which can let it set up if needed.

New Pokemon: Anti-Kartana
New Stats: 109/31/181/131/59/59
New Ability: Stamina/Intimidate
Type: Fire/Bug
New Moves: Heat Wave, Flamethrower, Bug Buzz, Flame Burst, Fire Blast, Morning Sun
ReMoved: All grass type moves, all steel type moves
Calcs: +2 252 Atk Choice Band Kartana Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Anti-Kartana: 242-285 (67.4 - 79.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Knock Off is really the only move that Kartana can hit this anti-Kartana with, resisting all of its other (normal) moves and being able to hit it back with Fire STAB.
0- SpA Kartana Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Kartana: 396-468 (122.9 - 145.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Kartana Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kartana: 291-343 (112.3 - 132.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Summary: It can take a hit from Kartana, and burn it to a crisp using any fire type move. It has 2 interesting abilities in Stamina, which gives it a defense buff every time it gets hit, which allows it to take more and more hits. It also has Intimidate to slow down Kartana’s Beast Boost.

New Pokemon: Anti-Garchomp
New Stats: 95/80/102/108/130/85
New Ability: Levitate
Type: Fairy/Steel
New Moves: Flash Cannon, Moonblast, Ice Beam, Calm Mind, Haze
ReMoved: All Ground type moves, all Dragon type moves
Calcs: +1 0 SpA Anti-Garchomp Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 374-444 (104.7 - 124.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO (The +1 is from CM)
252 SpA Anti-Garchomp Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 396-468 (110.9 - 131%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Garchomp Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Anti-Garchomp: 106-126 (29.6 - 35.2%) -- 17% chance to 3HKO Fire Blast is the only way that Garchomp can even really hit Anti-Garchomp
Summary: Anti-Garchomp can take all of Garchomp’s hits and fire back with a super effective Moonblast/Ice Beam. The best way that Chomp can hit this thing is Fire Blast, hence why it has higher SPD then DEF.
 
The Main Mon

The Main Mon

:swsh/garchomp:
Pokemon: Garchomp
New Stats: 108/80/130/95/102/85 BST: 600
New Ability: Swarm HA: Misty Surge
New Typing: Bug/Fairy
New Moves: Nasty Plot, Dark Pulse, Flash Cannon, Moonblast, Draining Kiss, Moonlight, Misty Terrain, Misty Explosion, Quiver Dance, Bug Buzz, Struggle Bug, Infestation, Pollen Puff, Giga Drain, Hurricane, Ice Beam, Psychic, Psyshock, Ancient Power, Tri Attack, Baton Pass, Shadow Ball, Focus Blast, Aura Sphere
Removed Moves: Crunch, Sandstorm, Swords Dance, Sand Tomb, Mud Slot, Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Dragon Claw, Bite, Dragon Rush, Slash, Take Down, Dig, Scale Shot, Iron Head, Poison Jab, Iron Tail, Outrage, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Stomping Tantrum, Fire Fang, Shadow Claw, Brick Break
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp: 341-403 (95.5 - 112.8%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp: 127-151 (35.5 - 42.2%) -- 89.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252 SpA Garchomp Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 428-506 (119.8 - 141.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252 SpA Garchomp Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 204-240 (57.1 - 67.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp: 172-203 (48.1 - 56.8%) -- 34% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp: 64-75 (17.9 - 21%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Garchomp Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 288-338 (80.6 - 94.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Garchomp Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 136-162 (38 - 45.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
(All of these are with Misty Terrain up from Misty Surge)

:swsh/kartana:
Pokemon: Kartana
New Stats: 59/31/181/109/59/131 BST: 570
New Ability: Beast Boost
New Typing: Fire/Bug
New Moves: Quiver Dance, Bug Buzz, Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Dark Pulse, Hurricane, Inferno, Aura Sphere, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Earth Power, Psychic, Flash Cannon
Removed Moves: Fury Cutter, Razor Leaf, Aerial Ace, Night Slash, Leaf Blade, Guillotine, Swords Dance, Sacred Sword, Solar Blade, Brick Break, Psycho Cut, Smart Strike, X-Scissor
252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 0+ Def Kartana: 32-39 (12.3 - 15%) -- possible 7HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Sacred Sword vs. 0 HP / 0+ Def Kartana: 44-52 (16.9 - 20%) -- possible 5HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0+ Def Kartana: 95-113 (36.6 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Smart Strike vs. 0 HP / 0+ Def Kartana: 52-62 (20 - 23.9%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Kartana Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kartana: 1612-1903 (622.3 - 734.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Kartana Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kartana: 269-317 (103.8 - 122.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Kartana Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kartana: 403-476 (155.5 - 183.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Kartana Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kartana: 224-264 (86.4 - 101.9%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

:swsh/landorus-therian:
Will get the moves later
Pokemon: Landorus Therian
New Stats: 105/80/145/90/91/89 BST: 600
New Ability: Clear Body
New Typing: Water/Ice
New Moves:
Removed Moves:
 
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Low-Key

Low-Key

Please tell me if I'm doing this correctly:
abismal's Anti-Garchomp, zxgzxg's Anti-Kartana, EeveeGirl1380's Anti-Lando-T, ChoiceScarf's Anti-Lando-T
 
G-Luke

G-Luke

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Bobsican's Anti Garchomp, my Anti Kartana, zxgzxg's anti Kartana, Gravity Monkey's Anti Landorus-T, abisal's anti Garchomp,
 
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zxgzxg

zxgzxg

scrabble
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Gyltia's Anti-Landorus-Therian, EeveeGirl1380's Anti-Landorus-Therian, zxgzxg's Anti-Kartana, abismal's Anti-Garchomp, Bobsican's Anti-Garchomp
 
Bobsican

Bobsican

NatDex Ubers TL
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Bobsican's Anti-Garchomp, Gravity Monkey's Landorus-Therian, EeveeGirl1380's Anti-Kartana, ChoiceScarfed's Kartana, G-Luke's Anti-Kartana
 
ChoiceScarfed

ChoiceScarfed

abismal said:
im just here for fun
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Garchompn't
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Type: View attachment 339617 / View attachment 339618
Abilities: Pastel Veil
HA: Intimidate
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Stats:
108 / 80 / 102 / 122 / 85 / 103
Loses: Earthquake, Earth Power, Scorching Sands, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Draco Meteor, Outrage, Dragon Breath, Dragon Rush, Dragon Rage, Scale Shot.
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Gains: Focus Blast, Aura Sphere, Moonblast, Dazzling Gleam, Ice Beam, Blizzard, Close Combat, Drain Punch, Mach Punch, Draining Kiss, Calm Mind.
Okay so I only have a bit of knowledge on what Garchomp does but I know its movesets consist of Earthquake, Scale Shot, Swords Dance, Stealth Rock, Toxic, Stone Edge, Fire Fang, Draco Meteor, Fire Blast etc.

Intimidate solves all of the moves on the physical side effortlessly, it also prevents Garchomp from getting too ahead of the game with swords dance. Being part fairy destroys any chance of it outspeeding and Stone edge is easily tanked. That only leaves moves like Iron Head and Poison Jab. But this alternate chomp outspeeds its base by 1 stat point anyway, either KO'ing the thing with Ice Beam or Moonblast.

Aside from the counter stuff It's useable on its own, being a fairy/fighting type with decent coverage, hitting as hard as it needs to with strong stab moves and taking care of some other pokemon like Landorus-T, Rillaboom, Tornadus and others with Ice Beam. For some gimmicky combinations if you're feeling bold you can always use Swords Dance + Stomping Tantrum for ground coverage, or you could just run mud shot since that's literally all of your good options... from what I remember.

Pastel Veil's just a generic option but it also helps wall Garchomp's Toxic sets.
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As for the calcs, I have basically none because I honestly don't care but I'll still provide them because its a requirement.

1): -1 252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 200+ Def Garchomp: 105-125 (25 - 29.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

2): 0 SpA Garchomp Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 352-416 (98.5 - 116.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

3): 252 SpA Garchomp Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tornadus-Therian: 206-244 (56.9 - 67.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

4): -1 252 Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 117-138 (27.8 - 32.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
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zxgzxg said:
:ss/kartana:
Pokemon: Anti-Kartana
Type: Grass/Fighting
Ability: Fluffy
Stats: 59 / 83 / 131 / 97 / 139 / 61
New Moves: Aura Sphere, Body Press, Close Combat, Focus Blast, Recover
Removed Moves: Flash Cannon, Iron Defense, Smart Strike, Steel Beam, Swords Dance
Description: Bulky physical wall with a really bad typing. Also doubles as a check to Rillaboom, non-Ice Beam Greninja-Ash, non-Dragonium Garchomp, and non-Flyinium Landorus-Therian
Defensive
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Smart Strike vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Kartana: 114-135 (35.5 - 42%) -- 84.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Sacred Sword vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Kartana: 97-115 (30.2 - 35.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Kartana: 73-86 (22.7 - 26.7%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Kartana: 53-62 (16.5 - 19.3%) -- possible 6HKO
Offensive
252+ Def Kartana Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kartana: 230-272 (88.8 - 105%) -- 31.3% chance to OH
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EeveeGirl1380 said:
New Pokemon: Anti-Landorus-Therian
New Stats: 110/85/145/130/75/55
New Ability: Trace
New Type: Steel/Flying
New Moves: Flash Cannon, Steel Beam, Ice Beam, Blizzard, Iron Defense, Air Slash
ReMoved: All Ground type moves, all rock type moves, Hammer Arm
Calcs: +6 252+ Atk Landorus-Therian Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Anti-Landorus-Therian: 287-338 (75.1 - 88.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
0 SpA Anti-Landorus-Therian Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Landorus-Therian: 296-352 (77.4 - 92.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Summary: Steel/Flying is a great type to deal with Lando-T, only being hit with Stone Edge on its main sets, and resisting just about everything else. It has a massive defense stat and doesn't care about Intimidate. In fact, it can use Intimidate against Landorus-Therian by taking advantage of Trace. It also gets Ice Beam and Blizzard, which lets it bop Lando-T into the North Pole. It also has access to Calm Mind from its base from, which can let it set up if needed.
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Congrats, Abismal, zxgzxg, and EeveeGirl1380!
Also, because the people on the council are geniuses, we have a new voting system! (For designated slates)
Option 1: X, Y, Z
Option 2: X, Y, z
For example...
Magikarp: FloppyMagikarpMan, GyaradosForSomeReason, SplashyGuy109090908
 
Low-Key

Low-Key

Okay, this slate was full of defensive mons this time around, not gonna lie. All of the winning mons have a >100 Defense stat.
 
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SlowAndBruh said:
Okay, this slate was full of defensive mons this time around, not gonna lie. All of the winning mons have a >100 Defense stat.
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Yep, this slate was for the biggest physical attackers of NatDex OU, so that was to be expected. Next slate is gonna be defensive mons of NatDex OU, so you might want to start prepping!
 
ChoiceScarfed

ChoiceScarfed

Slate three is open now!
:ss/slowking::ss/blissey: :ss/ferrothorn:
Also, there's gonna be another pokemon that we need subs for...
Mega Garchomp!
So, basically take regular Anti-Chomp and add 100 to its stats to make it a counter to MegaChomp.
 
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