BurningMan
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scarf, because quick powder loses its effect once your transformed.umm would quick powder or scarf be better on ditto??
scarf, because quick powder loses its effect once your transformed.umm would quick powder or scarf be better on ditto??
If the Swimming goggles exist, it's the only one I can think of, and of course, it too is unreliable. With Quick Claw, assuming both of you can OHKO your opponent with their own move, you have a 59.375% chance of winning, anyways (unless they can KO you with a priority move but you must use a regular move to KO them).Is their an item that boosts speed that DOESN'T lock up move selection (that's not haxing like Quick Claw) and works after the transformation?
Ditto doesn't really need the entire increase in speed and prefers having move selection.
Probably a bad idea. It could work in theory if the Substitute is bulky enough. That being said, Ditto will probably be forced out really quickly anyway. Besides, if you have a Pokemon on your team that can Pass a Sub, then it would be better to Pass to a Pokemon that can make full use of it, such as a setup sweeper.Baton Pass a Sub to a new Ditto...
good idea of bad idea?
Last page but still I feel the need to retort. Not every Dragon type does, nor does every Ghost type, but obviously the vast majority of Dragon and Ghost types hit themselves super effectively because their main STAB is weak to itself. Going by Smogon sets, Metagross doesn't always use Earthquake, and Tyranitar doesn't always use Focus Punch, Superpower, Earthquake, or Aqua Tail. Some Heatran sets don't use Earth Power. Sometimes Dragonite doesn't carry a Dragon attack, the same goes for Rayquaza. Also, Dialga is often found without Earth Power, Aura Sphere, Brick Break or Earthquake. And on Pokémon like Starmie, Thunderbolt isn't so it can hit Starmie, but because it provides good coverage with Starmie's other moves.Every pseudo legendary does. Every dragon does. Also Lucario, Gengar, Doryuuzu, Heatran and Starmie do. I indeed would say that "most sweepers" do. And while not all of them can OHKO themselves (to be exact: Metagross and some Tyranitar from this list. But then again, Infernape can OHKO himself without any SE attack), even a 2HKO means that the non-Ditto user will have to switch out if Ditto comes in for a revenge kill.
ummm is it just me or does ditto now seem COMPLETELY broken and OP...i may just be me...kingdra comes in and does 3 dragon dances and a rain dance...ditto comes with choice scarf and sweeps opp with outrage XD
JUST ONE example
hey i have a set idea
Ditto w/Eccentric
252 HP
-Transform
Ditto's speed and HP don't change when it transforms iirc, but Eccentric does copy stat boosts. The reason everyone's making a big deal about CS Ditto is that it can come in on, say, a +2/+2 DDMence, copy it's boosts, outspeed and start sweeping with Outrage (although you run the risk of their own CS Ditto stealing your boosts and speed tying). It's completely helpless against faster Scarfers though.If you run something like LO on ditto, that makes set up sweepers pretty damn risky, because if you lose the speed tie you have to be able to deal with your own sweeper.
Fixed. It does copy speed, just not the speed that an item (choice scarf) gives the opponent.Ditto's HP doesn't change when it transforms iirc, but Eccentric does copy stat boosts. The reason everyone's making a big deal about CS Ditto is that it can come in on, say, a +2/+2 DDMence, copy it's boosts, outspeed and start sweeping with Outrage (although you run the risk of their own CS Ditto stealing your boosts and speed tying). It's 50% against Scarfers though.
that sounds SO sweet. if electivire got jack of all trades... oooh.Weird, the data we have so far says that his Dream World ability is "Jack of All Trades", which boosts non-STAB attacks. I was wondering if Transform changed somehow so that Ditto retains his own ability. Eccentric makes much more sense, though, and it's exactly what I was hoping for.
lol a team full of dittos :)...also even with two dragon dances you can sweep i thin its better than pokemon like salamenceDitto isn't broken. But if we compare Eccentric Ditto to classic Ditto... hey, it seems much more broken than if Arceus were allowed in OU
It now has uses everywhere, in every tier with the same chance of success. Will Ditto have its own tier, much like it has 'its own Egg group'?
Good job, just now understanding what the entire thread is about.I actually like Ditto's new ability. Since Ditto is slow and frail, it doesn't have time to Transform into its opponent, unless it's holding a Choice Scarf. For instance, Ditto can switch into a Ghost Pokemon, then take advantage of that Pokemon's Shadow Ball to hit the opposing Pokemon for super effective damage.