Do scores in battle mean anything?

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Eternal

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Well, I made this thread in response to everyone that tries to be an arrogant fool when they state something like "I 6-0'd this person meaning that person is a complete noob."

Do scores in battles actually mean anything?

In my opinion scores mean nothing. The only thing that matters if you win or lose. Why? Because lets say you have a solid team. You lost 6-0 because you were swept by a mixed sweeper Infernape. While you had Tentacruel as your Infernape counter, but your Tentacruel haxed criticalled hitted and you lost your Infernape counter. So the other person who won 6-0 gets very arrogant and other people seeing you get 6-0'd makes you look like a bad battler.
I've seen this from many people that are ignorant towards others and do not understand how the game works.
Another example, a person uses an all offensive team and defeats someone that is a newbie in the game 1-0. And someone else uses a stall team and wins 6-0. In comparison, people might find the person that won 6-0 a better battler than the person who won 1-0. While all along a sweeper team can easily defeat a stall team.

Discuss.
 
To be honest, I feel this is more appropriate for Stark...
I don't USUALLY take the scores of matches into effect, but for something like tourney battles where the score is sometimes used for the purpose of determining points or something similar, it helps the player make smarter decisions, such as not sacrifising so hastily.
 
Well, that might be a bad example, because if you get 6-0 by Infernape you probably have a bad team since you had nothing faster that could revenge kill it and nothing bulky that could at least take one hit from it...
 
In Pokemon, I don't care about the score, seeing as it doesn't mean anything at all. Your win doesn't count more or less regardless of whether you win 6-0 or 1-0; it's still just one win.
 
How you win definitely makes a difference. You can tell from any battle whether it was close or if one person was winning the entire time. Score is not the best indicator, but the disparity definitely matters.
 
Scores are deceiving.

It all depends on what kind of team you run. An offensive team vs. offensive team can really mean you got your ass kicked if you lose 5-0 or 4-0. However, if you run a spike set-up team like I did a while back, your strategy is to get spikes out and shuffle until its time for your lategamer to come in. There were times where I would lose 5-0 because my lategamer missed a kill by 1%, and their entire team would be at 20% health also... in that case the score is VERY deceiving.
 
To be honest, in real life, it makes a huge difference for me about how far away I was from my goal. Losing a, I don't know, basketball game by 1 point in double overtime is a huuuge difference than being blown out easily. It makes me feel better that I'm able to compete with the person/team in general. Also, if you are losing by a little, you always know its possible to get over that gap and win eventually. Losing 1-0 to crithax is fine, being beat 6-0 is a different story.
 
if you're talking about pokemon, then it essentially doesn't matter. I doubt there's much correlation between "score" and actual performance, although there's probably some.
 
im just gonna apply this question to pokemon specifically since it's an interesting question imo

obviously as far as results go the "score" doesn't matter but in ascertaining the prowess of the team/battler it can be useful, but rl said, #pokemon alive is not the only parameter by which "competence" is measured and is largely a function of the team type matchups, e.g a successful stall team will on average have a higher number of pokemon left after a win.

it's a measure of "how well" your played your match in a way, if one neglects the overall effects of hax since that's the only "measurable" variation force on the sum of outcomes between two "competitive" battlers with "competitive" teams. it's hard because how well is a team with 5 boomers supposed to do if we only use score?

i guess the best parameter for "how well a team did in winning" would be "momentum", i.e. the less risks a team has to take throughout the match, the better it did, and the more it kept the opposing team fmor executing it's strategy the better it did.

when you maintain the execution of your strategy which in turn prevents the other player from executing his, it usually means that player has to make more risks in order to turn the tide.

i think team type matchups alone (which are essentially of near infinite (very large) variation) tend to make final scores too varied to be "useful data"

it's all ill defined i know x__x;
 
There are so many random elements in Pokemon that scores by themselves don't tell much about a player's battling prowess. They might have SOME use in analyzing your team, though; you'll definitely take notice if you consistently lose 3-0 or something like that.
 
I've never given any importance to the score of a pokemon battle. Sometimes you can increase your chances of winning by sacrificing a pokemon, so it would be the smarter move, and winning by a lower score shouldn't make it look like a worse win in that case.
 
In my opinion, a 6-0 reflects more strongly an earlier surprise sweep or a greatly exploited hole in an opponents team. That hole I mentioned more reflects you being lucky enough to have that breloom or whatever ready to sweep, rather than a mistake.

Although, it could be a critical error that allows for the 6-0.

I usually write off any 6-0s to inexperience or mistakes from the opponent, favoring much more the 2-0's or something from a long, well fought battle. It reflects my ability much more to beat a hard opponent 2-0 than to beat someone who was unprepared for my ledian 6-0.
 
Scores are probably one of the maybe indicators that show the skill of you and your opponent, but in most of the cases scores mean nothing because other factors probably influenced the outcome of the battle.
 
At this point in DPP, whenever I get a 4-0 or 5-0, shit even 6-0, I know 85% of the time its because of hax, so it does not really get me down.
 
It's really the same way in sports: If I beat someone 6-0; 6-0, or beat them 7-5; 5-7; 7-5, its still a win either way. However, I always like the close matches more than the blowouts. It's a sense of accomplishment when you win 1-0, because you planned carefully all game and it payed off. Sure, it may pad your ego temporarily, but only the close wins reveal flaws in your team.
 
We play the game to win. Not to 6-0 an opponent, but to win. If you're too busy worrying about how much you're going to beat your opponent by, you might take an unnecessary risk and end up losing, when if you had just not cared about the 6-0 and sacrificed something when you should have, you'd be just fine. So playing for the 6-0 isn't that important, but in some cases it can be a "decent" indicator of who's better than who and by how much. Or simply who got all the bullshit luck.
 
The score doesnt mean anything unless the battle itself is personal. If you beat a friend or someone you have been trying to beat or always beat 6-0 then it means more then just beating them 2-0 or 1-0. However, the point of the game is to have the last pokemon standing in which the ends justifying the means is true. Having to sacrifice a pokemon or two to win doesnt matter as long as you win. It does not show your skill as a player. If player A beats player B 6-0 but only wins 3-0 to player c that doesnt say anything. If player A wins 6-0 for 5 battles but for the next 5 battles get all the bad luck and gets 0-6 does that say anthing about his skill level or that the game decided to skrew him over. What if all the first 5 battles he was getting extra lucky. What if a top player suddenly gats 0-5ed by an Ash team including a pikachu on it, does that belittle his skill level?
 
I think score doesn't matter much, since some teams are just built to win with higher margins than others and at the endgame when I've seen their entire team, I usually just start sacrificing pokemon I no longer need to create free switch-ins. Also when playing Baton Pass teams, it generally ends in a 6-0 for one side.
 
Arin, it's like you read my mind... not really but anyway: I don't think score matters, and I hate it when someone keeps moaning about it. I do post it in a tournament or so, but for me it means far more why that happened.
EDIT: I do think this would be better in Stark to.
 
The score in pokemon is not important, but sometimes it is the consequence of doing mistakes or just having a poor assembled team, like with a lot of weakness to certain things, loosing vital pokemon for the team early etc.

So most 6-0 mean that in that particular battle one of the teams had the best performance while the other failed due to poor planing or mistakes of the trainer. It doesn't mean one of the trainers is worst than the other.
 
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