Tournaments DPPPL VI Format Discussion

[gephicka]

Also I think if you were to include doubles, it should not just be one doubles slot and u probably want 2 because the doubles isolation thing is very much real.

i would like to note that this was done fairly successfully in ADVPL with both orre colosseum (ADV VGC) and ADV DOU featured

DPP DOU & 2009 both have very significant playerbases and could absolutely field a very high-quality pool, definitely worth including

 

[tko]

I vaguely remember planning Farc players was a bit annoying pre draft, we essentially were always going to spend big on friends we knew were good at the tier. If the ubers community thinks they can put up a solid 16 plays for both ubers and farc however, then it's worth keeping for sure.

10 slots worked just fine last year, and i really like the idea of dpp draft over the 2nd uu (or farc).
12 slots is cool if we think there's a sizable amount of vgc players that would join to play old vgc formats. I always like seeing communities mix in tours like this. similar thought process as adding dpp draft. maybe 1 dpp draft 1 vgc if we don't want to drop a uu slot / farc?

 

[violet river]

i would like to note that this was done fairly successfully in ADVPL with both orre colosseum (ADV VGC) and ADV DOU featured

DPP DOU & 2009 both have very significant playerbases and could absolutely field a very high-quality pool, definitely worth including

it absolutely was not, it was done in ADVLTPL. Very different.
personally, I pushed pretty hard to not just have one doubles slot - its a nightmare in teamtours for a billion reasons and I dont care to get into it for the nth time in this post. just want to say I think expanding to 12 to fit 2 doubles is the best way to have it.
i totally support draft being in - dpp draft was recently played in a major draft team tour(Draft Winter League) to a solid degree of success. the board was adapted for that tour so it shld be quote unquote up to date even if some people have their grumblings. it would be tuff. other than that - cut 2nd uu, cut farc if everyone hates it, add an extra ou - all seems good. if youre cutting 2nd uu and farc, and adding ou, and looking for a last slot - draft doesnt meaningfully detract from any of the other player pools, unless someone REALLY wanted to get me for ou. its easy to support, contribute to, draft for, sub into.

 

[Oathkeeper]

Im honestly in favor of dropping a UU slot (as much fun as the meta is) in favor of a ZU slot. DPP ZU has a pretty good fanbase and would fit very well here to give it more attention. I'd also want to make it so both managers can play. If the pricing needs to fit that structure, then that's fine. But a lot of times in these PLs, I'm seeing teams with 2 great managers that both are great players too. I'm sure I'm not the only one who agrees here. If we HAVE to do only 1 manager self-buy, then so be it.

Anyway, long story short: ZU > 2nd UU and 2 manager self-buys! Thank you =)

 

[RosebloomNixie]

I do want to add that I don't think player draft headaches are an inherently bad thing. Scouting, finding of talent, nurturing of talent are all things that are built into being a successful manager, something that I have both personally done, and seen great success in LC team tours when they have looked at promising unpolished talent, especially in old gens. For that point alone I would say that any argument of Farceus / Doubles + VGC / Draft being hard to prep a player draft for is actually a good thing.

The vitriol for Farceus is clearly not indicative of its supporters and functions similarly to many unliked but important tiers which people who dislike it will clearly not touch.

In an additional note, while I don't have a stake in it. Bo3 is historically a draining slot for teams in general due to the prep work required, it should definitely only be one slot.

I would say that format wise, I think something like replacing last year's with Draft over UU2 is strong, as would be an increase to 11 or 12 slots with additions of Both doubles (DOU/2009) and no draft for 11, and both doubles disciplines and draft for 12. (All of these assume 1 UU slot.)

As I mentioned before you could also just keep 2 UU slots and either add a second LC slot, or makes Farc a second LC slot. Or take any of the above replacing draft with a second LC slot as that has more than enough players to function.

 

[hex]

Saw Monotype brought up a few times in this thread, and while normally I'd support Monotype, DPP Monotype is unviable and should not be considered for DPP Premier League. It is not a standard tier in Monotype and is generally discarded as a meme because the tier is bring Steel or lose basically. Recently the only two people developing the tier unbanned evasion abilities to bring some life to the tier so, not a good sign. No one in the community talks / develops the tier and was recently moved to the Monotype OM category as a result.