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Election 2008, United States

Who would you vote for if the presidential race is held now?

  • Barack Obama

    Votes: 415 72.4%
  • John McCain

    Votes: 130 22.7%
  • Other (Please specify)

    Votes: 28 4.9%

  • Total voters
    573
i would like to see one racist quote by jeremiah wright. i dont believe there are any.

hahahhaa. BARACK OBAMA: THE COKED-UP GAY.(also a negro)!!!

edit: wait you're a gimmick aren't you. nm.
 
If you're thinking about voting for Ron Paul think about this... If Ron Paul was forced to choose between Obama and McCain who would he pick? McCain.
I'm sorry, but the voting system as set forth by our Founding Fathers, among the most intelligent men of all-time, should not be a selection between two evils. It should be a selection of the best candidate for the job. I have my right to vote, and that right is to vote for the best candidate. To me, RP is the best candidate.

And I have a good feeling that RP would abstain from voting if given the choice. Conservatives really don't like McCain all that much.
 
Ok lets set somethings straight here ok?

Universal Health Care (a.k.a. "Hillary Care") -As a gamer you should be terrified of any of Hillary Clinton's ideas and anything she supports I mean she has made it very clear that she is not a fan of the video game industry and gamers. Now lets look at the concept behind universal health care shall we? Politicians love to whine about "universal health care" simply to help their careers, so you can't really trust anything they say. Who in their right mind would be opposed to "free health care" for "everyone" I wouldn't but the fact of the matter is that such health care IS IMPOSSIBLE! Where would we get the money for it? Would it be any good? Because government services are SOOO reliable right? I mean there is nothing better then an overworked, overtired, idiot who just got out of college operating on you with government issued rusty, poorly made, budget medical equipment right? And better yet he probably has a very thick accent and just came to America yesterday from India!- And thats why I am opposed to "Universal Health Care" not to mention the waiting lists, you probably would have to wait in line to get treated for a heart attack.

Barack Obama will not, cannot and should not win the general election, why? Because he is a terrorist sympathizer who advocates reverse racism! Did you know the pastor of the church that Obama has been going to for the past 20 years thinks America deserved 9/11? Did you know he shouts "God Damn America" constantly in Church, and Obama just sits in his all black, anti-american, RACIST church and smiles. Obama even dedicated a book to the man! Obama is also involved in mortgage fraud and is being accused and sued by a MAN named Lary Sinclair for doing crack and having an affair with him.
You forgot to mention that Obama eats kittens and that his wife douches with the blood of aborted fetuses. If you're going to cover every outlandish accusation about him, you might as well go big or go home.
 
im just going to proceed on the wright issue as if you are not a gimmick even though you probably are

America is a country controlled by rich white people: Fact

"US of KKK" = statement meaning America has poor race relations: Fact

How does acknowledging those well known facts constitute racism.
 
although it is untrue given how africans have been treated by the west, white people inventing AIDS as a means to control the african population as they raped them of their national resources is not as outlandish a theory as, say, the popular conservative theory that the free market works

'reverse racism' lol. white people have their own form of affirmative action, it's called being born white.
 
Though Ron Paul and McCain are in the same party, the differences between the two are huge. I really don't believe any Ron Paul supporter would vote for a Neo-Conservative.

Could you give legitimate evidence that Obama is racist, sympthasizes terrorists, and that he is anti american?

Everything you see on FOX News isn't true. >.>
 
You're right it should not be a selection between two evils, but in this case it is. See I don't like McCain that much, he's not bad but he's not great. I wanted Mitt Romney and Mitt Romney endorsed McCain so I'll vote for McCain. Now with Ron Paul and McCain being in the same party and all I would think that most Ron Paul supporters would vote for McCain, makes sense to me.

That's a bad attitude to take (and the reason why it IS a "choice of two evils" - people don't do the research to find candidates they like) - you're saying you're vote doesn't matter enough to vote for someone you truly agree with.

I truly agree with Ron Paul on just about everything, so if he's on the ballot I will for him, or if he's not I will write him in.

(praying you're not a gimmick)
 
although it is untrue given how africans have been treated by the west, white people inventing AIDS as a means to control the african population as they raped them of their national resources is not as outlandish a theory as, say, the popular conservative theory that the free market works

I have liberal opinions and generally agree with your posts, but claiming that humans invented AIDS is just plain silly, albeit no more nonsensical than the belief that AIDS was created by God to kill gay people. I don't think Jeremiah Wright is a racist or otherwise threatening, but the idea is still stupid no matter who expresses it. However, this isn't something Obama himself believes, and even if that were the case it's hard to see how it would be translated into an actual policy position.

On the subject of this supposed 'pastor problem', please remember John Hagee, who believes Adolph Hilter was carrying out the 'will of God' and wants to start a war with Iran to bring about the apocalypse.
 
saying that white people invented AIDS is untrue, as i said, but given the historic relationship between the west and africa, it's not all that far-fetched all things considered
 
saying that white people invented AIDS is untrue, as i said, but given the historic relationship between the west and africa, it's not all that far-fetched all things considered
To say it's not far-fetched is a little far-fetched, especially since whites were affected by it almost as much as blacks were at the beginning.

To say it's less far-fetched than the free market system being able to work is outright insane.
 
although it is untrue given how africans have been treated by the west, white people inventing AIDS as a means to control the african population as they raped them of their national resources is not as outlandish a theory as, say, the popular conservative theory that the free market works

okay shut up

the idea that white people inventing AIDS is a credible theory to you utterly robs of you of any credibility period.
 
i didnt say it is a credible theory, i said that given the history of western exploitation of africa there are tons of popular theories which are more outlandish. free markets working on their own for the betterment of society/the invisible hand is certainly one of them.
 
Europeans gave Native Americans blankets laced with smallpox to decimate their populations. World War I saw the prominent use of mustard gas, basically the first widespread instance of biochemical warfare. All God. is saying is that humans unleashing AIDS (whether knowingly or accidentally) wouldn't exactly set a precedence.
 
Giving someone a blanket infected with an already existing disease is far different from CREATING a micro-organism/virus.

Yes, in essence, but not in practice. Plus you'd have to be completely naive to think that they haven't done something like that already.
 
Being completely naive is thinking that Osama bin Laden just wants to destroy America because we're not Muslim.

Being completely realistic is not believing the government had the technology in the late '70s to CREATE a virus. Not replicate, but CREATE a virus.
 
I don't care who helps us, I will not let Texas become a Blue state - as much as I may love blue for my birthstone, Texas cannot become blue-Democrat.


Lets look at whats going on here...
McCain wants to drill for oil as a temporary fix for the problems. YAY.
Obama wants to invest in Corn ethanol - aside from sugar cane, biofuels will actually put more Greenhouse gasses than oil, coal, and nuclear plants, due to the fact that they neep more processing.

McCain wants to immediately stimulte the economy by issuing tax breaks to the upper class, and encouraging employment.
Obama wants to invest in Education, where we won't see results for 10 - 15 years.

McCain is providing for health care to simply be more affordable, only forcing businesses with more than 100 workers to provide healthcare. Those not receiving health care under this will receive it from either low-cost national health plan, or pay for it themselves and receive a tax deduction.
Obama wants to force small businesses to provide health insurance to all workers. This is extremely expensive, and will put a bigger strain on the employers - most of whom can barely afford insurance for themselves and their families, let alone their employees and their families with prior health issues, and bad habits such as smoking.


Being completely naive is thinking that Osama bin Laden just wants to destroy America because we're not Muslim.
No, they want to anihilate us for being such idiots, and owning banned things in the eyes of god, such as pornography, a stock market, and evil dictators, while we kill them for being "inferior".


The AIDS Question
We all know that HIV/AIDS ame into the world from chimpanzees. Do not say otherwise, as I can draw differences between Africa and the Americas

Africa's rainforest has diseased animals, carrying only terrible, deadly infections and animals.
South America's Amazon Rainforest has beneficial cures, such as those to Diabetes, Cancers, and some serious illnesses.

South America > Africa.





Wright is an asshat, and it took Obama waaaaaaay too long to seperate himself. Wright is one of those African americans that says "poor me, I'm oppressed, I have no job, I am addicted to drugs, it is all whitey's fault". Meanwhile, there are plenty of jobs available if they want them - they just have to go find them. Baby-sitting isn't much, but it is better than just mooching off my tax dollars in terms of welfare.

What does the Wright situation mean? Most would say "oh, he's ignoring the situation, trying to appease everyone". What happens when a leader of some terrorist group pulls the same garbage, and actually threatens to kill Americans? Is Obama going to wait until say...we get attacked? This is why I don't trust this man - easily swayed, as he is a young politician (relatively), and still corrupt.



GO MCCAIN!
 
Thats his attitude, and you know it - Whitey owes black man for hundreds of years of tyranny and oppression. Black man has always been told to go look somewhere else when looking for a job.
 
well the white community does owe the black community for hundreds of years of tyranny and oppression. slavery ended about 150 years ago - that is not all that many generations ago. what has it been, two generations since the civil rights act? statistically blacks have lower incomes, worse graduation rates, worse college enrollment rates, etc than whites on average. you would have to be a spoiled, middle-class, white child with no knowledge of the world and a gaping sense of entitlement to think that is because too many blacks are 'lazy' and they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps or some such ayn rynd inspired shit.
 
I have knowledge. I've got news for you though...

1.) My family is not from 1800 US - my great grandparents from my mother's side didn't arrive until 1905. My grandparents from my father didn't arrive until 1948 - post WWII, as they lived through the concentration camps. If I go to Germany, can I demand that I deserve some crap of affirmative action because my family was "oppressed"?

In fact, did the Hebrews ask for reparations when they left Egyptian slavery? No - they left with their clothing (American Slaves had that), their beasts of burden (the Blacks did get that), and nothing else. They in fact refused the gold that they could have stolen, they refused anything that was not theirs.

2.)
statistically blacks have lower incomes, worse graduation rates, worse college enrollment rates, etc than whites on average. you would have to be a spoiled, middle-class, white child with no knowledge of the world and a gaping sense of entitlement to think that is because too many blacks are 'lazy' and they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps or some such ayn rynd inspired shit.

The families expose themselves to drugs, and refuse to take jobs that offer chances - what happened to working in a convenience store, or a restaurant, and living? What happened to wrking in the Postal service delivering mail? What happened to baby-sitting, or working late nights/weekends?

Also, have you noticed? Blacks are more sexually active, have less desires for school, and don't want to work? What happened to working in Dunkin Donuts, or Starbucks, and actually fixing their lives?

Half the blacks that are here today are not even descendants of slaves - they came here from Africa afterwards, or Guyana, or the Carribean, or somewhere.


BTW, my offer still stands - if you thinks its soooooooooooooooooo bad here in the US, feel free to contact me - I will forward money to an account, and send you right back to Africa, or the Carribean.
 
I have knowledge. I've got news for you though...

1.) My family is not from 1800 US - my great grandparents from my mother's side didn't arrive until 1905. My grandparents from my father didn't arrive until 1948 - post WWII, as they lived through the concentration camps. If I go to Germany, can I demand that I deserve some crap of affirmative action because my family was "oppressed"?

all white people in america benefit from slavery indirectly. you benefit from the american economy slavery created, and you benefit from america's racist society. as do i.

The families expose themselves to drugs, and refuse to take jobs that offer chances

why do you think this is so? is it because blacks a genetically pre-disposed to being lazy?


BTW, my offer still stands - if you thinks its soooooooooooooooooo bad here in the US, feel free to contact me - I will forward money to an account, and send you right back to Africa, or the Carribean.

well i am a white male so i wouldn't exactly be going back anywhere, but considering your profile says you are 17 years old this statement is pretty interesting.
 
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