Fusion Evolution V5 (Submission Phase)

[Tuthur]

Zorian

Parents: Zoroark / Passimian
Shared egg group: Field
Offspring name: Zorian
New type: Dark / Fighting
New base stats: 90 / 122 / 85 / 90 / 70 / 102 | 549
New ability and desc: Mimicry (Illusion + Defiant) - Copy the ability of the last Pokemon in your team.
Notable moves: Physical: Close Combat, Knock Off, Sucker Punch, U-turn, Earthquake, Gunk Shot
Set up: Swords Dance
Role Identification: Zorian isn't a Pokemon that can fit in every team. It needs a teammate with a very potent ability (like Huge Power) to be threatening. Zorian stats are for most part below average, but it doesn't prevent it from being very good with the good ability.

Ninjachu

DNA Donors: Greninja / Pikachu-Starter
Offspring name: Ninjachu
New Type: Electric / Dark
Base Stats: 58 / 107 / 58 / 107 / 65 / 123| 518 (+20 Atk, +18 SpA, +2 Spe)
Ash Stats: 58 / 157 / 58 / 157 / 65 / 133 | 628
New ability and desc: Pika Bond (Lightning Rod + Battle Bond) - If this Pokemon knocks out another Pokemon or is targeted by an Electric-move, it transforms into Ninjachu-Ash. Electric-immunity.
Notable Moves: Physical: Knock Off, Volt-Tackle, Zippy Zap, Floaty Fall, Gunk Shot, Low Kick
Special: Dark Pulse, Pika Papow, Volt-Switch, Water Shuriken, Ice Beam, Grass Knot
Set-up: Nasty Plot
Utility: Spikes, U-turn
Role Identification: Glass Cannon

Sample sets

Ninjachu @ Choice Band
Ability: Pika Bond
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Knock Off
- Volt Tackle
- Zippy Zap
- Volt Switch / Spikes

Ninjachu @ Choice Specs
Ability: Pika Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Pika Papow
- Volt Switch
- Water Shuriken / Spikes

Ninjachu @ Darkinium Z
Ability: Pika Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Pika Papow
- Dark Pulse
- Water Shuriken

 

[AquaticPanic]

Alright, we from the council have decided that there's some fusions that need to be addressed


Tecnical Errors

Pika Xreme Garborem-Black's ability's name, Tera Armor, already exist as Kromork's ability name. Just change that and it's all good
Bigrob8917 Kikamp needs to have +5 bst added in all of its stats since both parents are giving the fusion the same ability
DatHeatmor We'd like some clarity on Tapu Owo's ability. Terrains only affect grounded mons, then it'd give the mons the levitating effect, at which point they would not be in contact with the terrain anymore so they would love the Levitate effect, touching the ground and beginning the cycle again
OPStellar Meditana's ability doesn't make sense considering its components. Neither telepathy or Beast Boost activate at the end of a turn


Broken Power Level

Anaconja Gog is too strong. Reduce the ammount of stages it lowers upon switch-in
Origin0 Lugfisk's 100% Paralyzis chance when at full HP is broken.
MacChaeger Just as a heads up, Blabla's Mega would be banned (But base allowed) if the fusion wins
colourcodedchaos Superhuman is extremamly broken with its ability, specially with access to Heal Bell
Pika Xreme Tombfisk's 100% paralyzis chance is broken
OPStellar Comfeena's immunity to moves that inflict status conditions or lower stats grant it immunity to too many moves, making it broken
Tuthur1 Zorian's ability opens up space for too many broken possibilities


Please fix these before we move on to Voting Phase

 

[Origin0]

Origin0 Lugfisk's 100% Paralyzis chance when at full HP is broken.

I reduced it to 30% from contact or when attacking it when Lugfisk is at full hitpoints.

 

[Bigrob8917]

Ah, I totally forgot about the +5 BST. Thank you for reminding, AquaticPanic.

 

[AquaticPanic]

I have a very important announcement to make.






























it's nut's birthday

please wish him a happy birthday​

 

[KeeganSkymin4444]

Happy Birthday Nut.

 

[T.I.A.]

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Rules: No BST rules and you can quad fuse things, or 5. Also, no restrictions to fuse and any form can be used. You can even make your own moves, Z-moves, and items related to your monstrosity.

 

[anaconja]

well it had to be done

DNA Donors: Deoxys / Deoxys-Attack / Deoxys-Defense / Deoxys-Speed
Offspring name: DeoxysDeoxysDeoxysDeoxys
New Type: Psychic/Psychic/Psychic/Psychic/Bird
Base Stats: 80/254/2/254/2/253 (+30 HP, +130 Atk, -80 Def, +130 SpA, -80 SpD, +110 Spe)
New ability and desc: PPPPrrrreeeessssuuuurrrreeee (Pressure + Pressure + Pressure + Pressure) - If this Pokemon is the target of a foe's move, that move loses fifteen additional PP.
Notable Moves: Wrap, Bind, Mud-Slap, Cut, Snore
Super Epic Huge Pure Psycho Large Humongous Meteor (Toxic + Swagger + Stealth Rock + Endure) - sets Stealth Rock on self. Badly poisons self. Opponent's Attack is raised 2 stages. Confuses self. Opponent always lives hits with at least 1 hp.
Role Identification: Don't vote for this.

TOP SECRET

im just saying dont vote for it so people will vote for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Cookie Butter]

Voting phase begins!
Notes:

Superhuman (Camerupt/Musharna)
Tombfisk (Stunfisk/Spiritomb)
Zorian (Zoroark/Passimian)
Disqualified for being too broken.

Cthulu Fani (Cloyster/Tapu Fini)
Disqualified for exceeding the sub limit.

Mood (Mewtwo/Electrode)
Disqualified because Electrode can't fuse with Mewtwo (high BST).

 

[anaconja]

Yanmega / Volcanion
Forretress / Lunala
Staravia / Regigigas
Slowbro / Bronzong
Blacephalon / Blaziken
Guzzlord / Tyranitar
Deoxys / Deoxys-Attack / Deoxys-Defense / Deoxys-Speed

 

[KirbyRider1337]

Beedrill / Ninjask
Guzzlord / Tyranitar
Omastar / Octillery
Ninjask / Solgaleo
Klinklang / Ampharos
Bewear / Dhelmise
Tapu Fini / Articuno
Mewtwo / Absol
Slaking / Minior
Kyogre / Dusclops

 

[Bigrob8917]

Let's see here...

Bewear/Dhelmise
Slaking/Minior
Diglett/Rayquaza
Yanmega/Volcanion
Octillery/Omastar
Klinklang/Ampharos
Tapu Fini/Articuno

 

[T.I.A.]

Deoxys / Deoxys-Attack / Deoxys-Defense / Deoxys-Speed
The best Deoxys
Slaking / Minior
Diglett / Rayquaza
Yanmega / Volcanion
Medicham / Kartana
Beedrill / Ninjask
Guzzlord / Tyranitar
Omastar / Octillery

 

[Origin0]

Diglett / Rayquaza
Tapu Fini / Articuno
Slaking / Minior
Yanmega / Volcanion
Guzzlord / Tyranitar
Staravia / Regigigas
Slowbro / Bronzong
Milotic / Rotom-Wash
Piloswine / Giratina-Origin
Gardevoir / Darkrai

 

[T.I.A.]

So, uh, is voting over?

 

[AquaticPanic]

So, uh, is voting over?

no. it's been barely a few days, please stop rushing us.

 

[T.I.A.]

no. it's been barely a few days, please stop rushing us.

OK then. Its just the lack of votes I'm bothered about.

 

[KeeganSkymin4444]

Ninjask/Solgaleo
Tapu Koko/Garchomp
Tapu Fini/Garchomp
Guzzlord/Tyranitar (I get the reference)
Dusclops/Kyogre
Slaking/Minior
Togedemaru/Lunala

 

[Reviloja753]

Minior / Lunala
Walrein / Empoleon
Yanmega / Volcanion
Garchomp / Tapu Fini
Garchomp / Tapu Koko
Staravia / Regigigas
Diglett / Rayquaza
Tapu Fini / Articuno
Ninjask / Solgaleo
Dusclops / Kyogre

 

[Cookie Butter]

Ninjask/Solgaleo
Tapu Koko/Garchomp
Tapu Fini/Garchomp
Guzzlord/Tyranitar
Dusclops/Kyogre
Slaking/Minior
Staravia/Regigigas
Diglett/Rayquaza
Walrein/Empoleon
Tapu Fini/Articuno

will add more votes later

 

[Tuthur]

I've looked over them thoroughly and I still don't see what's so special about Dusclops / Kyogre (bulky pivot... all you need is Thunder and a Spe above 57, because the Blue Orb will trigger Primordial Sea before Spirit Storm even gets a chance to be summoned), Guzzlord / Tyranitar (weakest Dragon type, even admitted so by Game Freak), and Tapu Fini / Articuno (just a higher BST spinoff of my Lapras / Alomomola fusion with the gimmick of Soak + Freeze-Dry...). Are we voting by which users we like, or by which fusions we think are the best?

You know you can run Kyogre without Blue Orb so the same applies to Dusclops/Kyogre. It's the only auto-setter of this weather.
Guzzlord is bad but it doesn't make the fusion with it bad (see Guzzbro). It has an amazing bulk. Tyranitar gives it a Mega and Dragon Dance. Also for your knowledge Guzzlord is a better Dragon than Drampa, Turtonator, Altaria and Silvally-Dragon.
First you didn't submitt Lapras+Alomomola. Second your fusion was way worst than Fini+Cuno, it gets STAB Freeze Dry, U-turn, reliable recovery (Wish is shaky) and better overall stats. I still don't get why people are voting for this since Soak+Freeze Dry seems far worse than bad gimmick like Mummy Slaking.
Also please think before posting. Every post makes you honestly look more ignorant about competitive Pokemon and more arrogant. It's no problem to be new but please try to ask why the other people are acting differently instead of claiming the others do wrong.

 

[anaconja]

I understand the bulk of Guzzlord + Tyranitar, but Rock + Dragon is worse than Dark + Dragon except in the area of Fairy weakness (which Rock does not compensate for!) The only weakness it cancels out is nil (it does nothing for it besides sandstorm immunity).

Rock not only grants sandstorm immunity, but also boosts Special Defense by 50% during sand. Additionally, Rock does give situational resistances to Flying, Normal, and Poison, but the better Special Defense is what sells it (if Tyranitar were Dragon/Dark it would be much worse at its job).

It's not a bad gimmick, it's just a show of power.

It is a bad gimmick. You're taking a turn to "set up," where something like Calm Mind or Nasty Plot would work more consistently, while the opponent can just switch out afterward to cancel your Soak. It's about as effective as Metal Sound.

Sure, it is better in most ways, but why is it such a success? Is the gimmick that good?

The thing is that Tapu Fini/Articuno actually has a good ability, giving a pseudo-Aurora Veil, compared to Lapras/Alomomola's paltry Hydration. Mygavolt probably noted Soak + Freeze-Dry on it as a joke.

More puzzling is that in spite of their lack of a selling point, their fusions are increasingly popular! I would not question anything if only it made sense.

Lack of selling point, huh?

New Type:

Base Stats: 97 / 110 / 87 / 110 / 87 / 97 (+10 HP, +0 Atk, +7 Def, +0 SpA, +7 SpD, +15 Spe) {588 BST}
New ability and desc: Foghorn (Forecast + Air Lock) - On switch-in, this Pokémon cancels out current weather conditions and summons Tailwind and Defog. Its primary type changes with each type of weather, according to the pattern of the move Weather Ball.

Base Stats: 97 / 140 / 97 / 140 / 97 / 117 (+10 HP, +0 Atk, +7 Def, +0 SpA, +7 SpD, +15 Spe) {688 BST}
New ability and desc: Delta Stream - On switch-in, the weather becomes strong winds that remove the weaknesses of the Flying type from Flying-type Pokemon

So it's basically a

with more speed and worse ability.

Yes, I gave its Mega-Evolution an additional feature in its ability. It's not a big difference, but considering how low the accuracy would be without weather conditions, it seemed okay.

yahahahhaha time to give everyone with focus blast or fire blast no guard jajajajajajaj

New Type:

Base Stats: 71 / 96 / 104 / 76 / 114 / 96 (557 BST)
New ability and desc: Tsar Flower (Flower Veil + Queenly Majesty) - Opponents' moves (not counting abilities) that have positive priority are prevented from having an effect when targeting Pokémon on this Pokémon's side while it is active. Any moves that may inflict a major status condition or/and lower stat stages targeting this Pokémon's side have -3 priority* and no secondary effect(s) will trigger (Sheer Force may bypass this Ability).

71/104/114 with a glorified Queenly Majesty (more effective on an attacking fusion) and Shield Dust is a good example of something with a lack of a selling point.
Don't like attacks with secondary effects? Try

. Don't like priority? Try

. Its bulk and offensive presence is less than Mew, so I don't see what niche this thing can have.
also lmao the notable moves made me shit myself (F E I N T and F L A I L and S W E E T S C E N T)

New Type:

Base Stats: 75 / 92 / 132 / 92 / 92 / 95 (578 BST)
New ability and desc: Liquid Armor (Shell Armor + Liquid Ooze) - This Pokémon ignores critical hits, and the extra damage is instead transferred as recoil.

So you made an inferior Toxapex. Good job.
(again, what the hell is Camouflage and Captivate and Torment and Mimic and Tickle and Safeguard doing here when SHELL SMASH ISN'T?)

In short, I find it hard to believe other fusions don't make sense when you have strategies like using Dragon Dance, which RAISES SPEED, and then using LOW-POWERED PRIORITY MOVES, LOW-POWERED NON-STAB, and NON-STAB NEGATIVE PRIORITY ATTACKS.

Notable Moves: Soak + Freeze-Dry + Rain Dance + Thunder, Dragon Dance + Aqua Jet + Ice Shard + Rage + Avalanche, Future Sight + Wish, Perish Song, Aqua Ring

 

[Reviloja753]

Also, technically, every move is useful.

Alright don’t be that guy. Not all moves are made equal. Are you saying to me that you would legitimately use Aurora Beam over Ice Beam? Flame Burst over Flamethrower? There are numerous other examples like this. Onto specifics...

Feint has equal priority to Extreme Speed, and I use it whenever I am facing sturdy/sash + recovery layouts, and has ended many a Chansey/Blissey. Sure, we all hate those, but that doesn't mean people don't use them. Sweet Scent is like a temporary double accuracy boost, for lack of Lock-On, and primarily in a Doubles/Triples situation (as noted, or didn't you read it).

Feint is literally 30 power. Sweet Scent never has room on any moveset ever. This is a singles metagame, so Doubles isn’t useful here. Also, there aren’t even triple battles this gen.

 

[T.I.A.]

Don't be that girl. Of course not all moves are made equal. Who would use Acid over Acid Spray? They all have their uses (Acid has more PP, so more useful in wild battles). Flame Burst is multi-target and ballistic, thus useful in a multiples setting.
You've made your point. But you designed this meta, so I'm sure you have imagination... (fusion evolution doubles/triples) (literally you made it you can slate it)

You have your methods here, but we just have different opinions than us. We just have singles here (much like almost every other meta out there) and we judge it by standards. And yes, Acid has more PP, but Acid Spray basically halves Special Defense, so its much better. Flame Burst just sucks. Mediocre power, plus not even having a chance to burn and a pretty useless side effect (really should have just done damage to all targets.) makes it useless even in doubles. You should just realize stuff is better off forgotten. Also, next time, actually use proper competitive movesets (like not using non-STAB priority unless its your only one.)

 

[AquaticPanic]

Please just let the arguement die here. It isn't going to get us anywhere. Let voting go on as usual