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I was under the impression that Skill Swap failed if either the user or target had the ability Wonder Guard, which would render this whole plan moot.
Just to help Onihunter93 out, this person speaks the truth: sturdy shedinja is not a hack, and can be done in-game. But, it is a gimmick, and difficult to pull off in a real match situation.
Not to mention that it's near-useless against a skilled player, since the setup requires a few turns, during which your choice of Pokémon completely give away what you're trying to do (and that even with Sturdy, there are dozens of things that can finish off Shedinja, and Wonder Guard Spiritomb can also be worn down or mashed with common Fairy moves). While it's cool to do against friends, it's not a recommended strategy against experienced battlers.
Yeah, it would be gimmicky even if Skill Swapping Sturdy over worked unaided, and needing to also use Worry Seed to get around not being able to Skill Swap with Wonder Guard Shedinja makes it even more so. But that was a fun video. In small doses, gimmicks can be enjoyable. Just don't expect a good winning percentage.
thanks for your support, and i deserve all the flak i get for this "team", as i have never played competitively before. i only wanted to try it just for fun. i'm a casual gamer and i only play for fun. it's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game. the only reason i wanted to try this is from the video i'll put below. funny as heck, and pretty good usage.
At all of you: They way it was described in the original post was simply as "Sturdinja"/"Wondertomb" there was no indication that this would be an actual strategy.
As of now, and his second post actually *explaining* what he meant with those terms, it made sense. Please be more clear in the future when throwing around things like "Wondertomb" or "Sturdinja". Those names are generally used to refer to the hacks around these very commonly made Pokemon.
This post explains what he meant, which is fine. Its perfectly legal. Again, I would suggest hitting up some of the battling forums for help with teams and the like, as this place (Orange Islands) is not for battling.
As of now, and his second post actually *explaining* what he meant with those terms, it made sense. Please be more clear in the future when throwing around things like "Wondertomb" or "Sturdinja". Those names are generally used to refer to the hacks around these very commonly made Pokemon.
This post explains what he meant, which is fine. Its perfectly legal. Again, I would suggest hitting up some of the battling forums for help with teams and the like, as this place (Orange Islands) is not for battling.
sorry DHR-107, i'm a noob when it comes to competitive battles, and i only recently created my account here on smogon. i've posted on the mentor ship to ask if anyone is willing to help me out in learning the basics of competitive battles. i'm sorry for any confusion I've caused you. i wont post on this page again until i have learned more about what each forum is dedicated to. thank you for your comments as they have given me experience. i wish you all luck, and i hope you'll do the same for me.
hehe... i just realized i made a few references to the game. hehe... caused confusion... gained experience... hehe
hehe... i just realized i made a few references to the game. hehe... caused confusion... gained experience... hehe
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What a let down. Why would they do that?
Well it's still good for a collector Pokémon. Maybe you're not going to use Holding Hands during your run of Pokémon X on your beloved Vivillon, but in a couple of years time you can say to your friends "HEY I HAVE HOLDING HANDS ON MY VIVILLON" and it will actually be an achievement.
If you want my advice on how to get the most out of the move, trade that Vivillon into Pokémon Bank or a file of X or Y that you don't use and keep it there for a couple of years!
Just like my notched eared pichu, right?
Hello. First time poster here. I apologize if this is in the wrong thread. I am currently playing x and was wanting to get my hands on my favorite pokemon heracross with moxie (female for breeding). If someone has it in there friend safari or is willing to trade please let me know. My friend code is 5069 5348 8678. I have emolga and electabuzz in my safari. Thank you so much and excited to have found smogon!
Hey Blacksen! One of the safaris that I have access to has Heracross. I can grab you a female. Do you want it caught in a specific Poke Ball for breeding?
Use an imaginary perfect color ball? : D
Dream Ball is my favourite, although hard to get your hands on. I could possibly help you out if you gave me some time, otherwise you can check the Simple Request Thread in the WiFi forum and see if anyone there can
So I've got a few questions about breeding in Gen V.
Power items guarantee the inheritance of one IV - is this 100% right because when I have (ie) one Electrike and one Ditto in Daycare, I have one offspring with neither of those (31) IVs passed down and a 30 in another unwanted stat (attack). How can this be?
With regards to egg moves, I'm rubbish at passing them in most cases. I believe this (along with most other aspects of breeding) is easier in XY where male and female can pass moves down? Can someone link me to the on site guide?
Does the inheritance of egg moves work well? I assume I couldn't teach a Sneasel Knock Off in BW2 and then breed it onto a Sneasel in XY.
Power items guarantee the inheritance of one IV - is this 100% right because when I have (ie) one Electrike and one Ditto in Daycare, I have one offspring with neither of those (31) IVs passed down and a 30 in another unwanted stat (attack). How can this be?
With regards to egg moves, I'm rubbish at passing them in most cases. I believe this (along with most other aspects of breeding) is easier in XY where male and female can pass moves down? Can someone link me to the on site guide?
Does the inheritance of egg moves work well? I assume I couldn't teach a Sneasel Knock Off in BW2 and then breed it onto a Sneasel in XY.
IV inheritance from power items fails when both Pokemon are equipped with power items. You can only have one Pokemon holding a power item during breeding. In BW, only male Pokemon can pass egg moves down to offspring. Only moves marked as egg moves on Serebii/Bulbapedia can be inherited via breeding. Tutor moves like Knock Off can not be passed on unless they are also egg moves. Male parents are also capable of passing on TM/HM moves. If both parents know a level up move, the offspring will know that move.
I've bolded the one bit I didn't know. It seems like I have blagged the good pokemon i have bred so far, I've almost exclusively used two power items in my BW breeding. I guess that's why the Destiny Knot was such a big deal in XY
maybe it increases happiness value?
turns out that you were right about skill swap failing on wonder guard. i tried it while playing with my younger brother, failed like a boss. i guess i'll just focus band. thank you for the help, sorry about your time.
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I'd recommend Focus Sash, it's guaranteed to let you survive one hit. Focus Band can activate multiple times, but it only has a 10% chance which is not reliable at all. (The same chance that an Ice Beam will freeze, for example)
thanks for the advice... where do i find a focus sash? i've been everywhere and i haven't found it yet. T_T
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