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Welcome to Justification, a Pet Mod that focuses on correcting things that a lot of Pokemon fans have questioned why Game Freak did not do? Along with things that the community as a whole decides on to change and justify. For example, why does Snorlax not get Slack Off? Why do so many Pokemon get such great Special movepools but are physical attacker? Well, that's what this Pet Mod is about, we're going to go through and find these little changes and make the perfect game. This is also great for competitive, as we can fix many Pokemon in the process. I'll make an initial change log and we'll then decide what to do from there! So, without further ado, let's get into this!

Initial Changelog

  • Venusaur now learns Dragon Pulse by TM, as it is a dinosaur thing, and it makes sense.
  • Blastoise now learns Shell Smash, it breaks its shell.
  • Blastoise has its Speed lowered to 68 to not make it overpowered with Shell Smash.
  • Butterfree now has base 90 Speed
  • Butterfree now has Compound Eyes changed to Tinted Lens; and Tinted Lens changed to Insectate
  • Butterfree now learns Tri-Attack at start.
  • Beedrill now has base 95 Speed
  • Beedrill now learns Quick Attack at start.
  • Beedrill now learns Megahorn.
  • Pidgeot has its Speed buffed to 141.
  • Raticate has its Hidden Ability changed to Strong Jaws.
  • Raticate now learns Ice Fang, Thunder Fang, and Fire Fang as egg moves.
  • Golduck is now Water / Psychic, as it is smart and its pre-evolution is Psyduck, so it makes sense.
  • Golduck's Hidden Ability is now Analytic, because it analyzes stuff and is smart.
  • Poliwrath now learns Drain Punch at level 60, why doesn't it?
  • Rapidash is now Fire / Fairy, as it is a pegasus.
  • Raipdash now learns Moonblast and Play Rough by level-up
  • Dodrio now learns Drill Run.
  • Electrode now learns Rapid Spin by level up.
  • Mr. Mime is now purely Psychic, as Fairy-type does not make sense.
  • Gyarados now learns Crunch at level 55, it has a huge mouth to Crunch with.
  • Aerodactyl now learns Brave Bird.
  • Snorlax now learns Slack Off through breeding with Slowpoke, Slowbro, or Slowking.
  • Dragonair is now Dragon / Fairy, as it is mythical and looks like a Fairy.
  • Dragonite is now Dragon / Fairy, as it is mythical and is always happy, it looks very Fairy-like.
  • Meganium now has its ability changed to Aroma Viel.
  • Meganium now has its Hidden Ability released.
  • Typhlosion now learns Earth Power by breeding with Numel.
  • Typhlosion's Hidden Ability is now released.
  • Feraligatr's Hidden Ability is now released.
  • Ledian's typing is changed to Bug / Fighting.
  • Ledian now has 45 Base Attack.
  • Ledian now has Huge Power as its Hidden Ability.
  • Unown now has Empathetic Mind as its Hidden Ability.
  • Forretress now has Instecitsite as its Hidden Ability.
  • Dunsparce is now a Dragon / Ground type Pokemon.
  • Dunsparce learns Dragon Claw, Draco Meteor, and Outrage.
  • Heracross now learns Icicle Spear.
  • Corsola now has its HP buffed up to 105.
  • Porygon2 now learns Techno Blast.
  • Miltank now has access to Rapid Spin through level up.
  • Blissey is now Normal / Fairy.
  • Raikou's Hidden Ability is released.
  • Raikou now learns Aura Sphere by level-up.
  • Raikou now learns Fusion Bolt.
  • Entei's Hidden Ability is released.
  • Entei now learns Extreme Speed by level-up.
  • Entei now learns Flare Blitz by level-up
  • Suicune's Hidden Ability is released.
  • Suicune now learns Aeroblast.
  • Tyranitar now learns both Sucker Punch and Knock Off.
  • Sceptile now has its Attack and Special Attack switched.
  • Swampert's Hidden Ability is changed to Adaptability, it's based on a mudskipper, a very adaptive animal.
  • Linoone now learns Extreme Speed by level-up
  • Delcatty is now Fairy / Normal.
  • Torkoal is now Rock / Fire.
  • Flygon now has its Hidden Ability changed to Tinted Lens
  • Flygon now has its Attack buffed to 115 and its Speed buffed to 107.
  • Anorith now learns Shell Smash.
  • Armaldo now learns Shell Smash.
  • Castform now has a sand form that is Rock-type.
  • Castform gets its stats buffed to 95 all-around when under the effect of Forecast.
  • Kecleon now learns all tutor moves from BW2 through breeding.
  • Latias is now Dragon / Fairy.
  • Latias-Mega is now Dragon / Fairy.
  • Torterra now learns Shell Smash
  • Empoleon's Hidden Ability is changed to Competitive.
  • Staraptor is now Fighting / Flying.
  • Rampardos now learns Paleolithic Flux at level 65.
  • Mismagius is now Ghost / Fairy type.
  • Mismagius now learns Boomburst at level one.
  • Bronzong now learns Heal Bell. (there ya go The Eevee General <3)
  • Garchomp now learns Extreme Speed.
  • Carnivine's Hidden Ability is changed to Entangle.
  • Magnezone has Sturdy changed to Levitate.
  • Tangrowth has Leaf Guard changed to Entangle.
  • Porygon-Z now learns Techno Blast.
  • Rotom-W now learns Hydro Pump and Surf.
  • Rotom-M now learns Leaf Storm and Giga Drain.
  • Rotom-F now learns Blizzard and Freeze-Dry.
  • Rotom-C now learns Air Slash and Hurricane.
  • Rotom-C now has its ability changed to Speed Boost.
  • Rotom-H now learns Overheat and Heat Wave.
  • Serperior is now Grass / Dragon.
  • Serperior now has Contrary released.
  • Emboar now has Reckless released.
  • Samurott now has Shell Armor released.
  • Audino is now Normal / Fairy.
  • Lilligant is now Grass / Fairy.
  • Lilligant now learns Moonblast.
  • Krookodile has its Attack raised from 117 to 127.
  • Cinccino's Technician is changed to Fur Coat.
  • Ferrothorn now has its Hidden Ability changed to Bulletproof.
  • Klinklang is now Steel / Electric.
  • Klinklang has its ability changed to Levitate.
  • Chandelure has its Hidden Ability changed from Infiltrator to Shadow Tag.
  • Accelgor now learns Water Shuriken.
  • Bisharp now learns Sacred Sword.
  • Thundurus now learns Bolt Strike at level one.
  • Kyurem now learns Ice Punch through tutors.
  • Meloetta has its ability changed to Soundproof.
  • Chesnaught now learns Drain Punch.
  • Delphox's Hidden Ability is now Alchemy.
  • Delphox now learns Moonblast.
  • Delphox now learns Aura Sphere.
  • Pyroar now learns Boomburst.
  • Florges is now Fairy / Grass.
  • Aegislash now learns Secret Sword.
  • Slurpuff now learns Crux.
  • Dragalge now has Adaptability released.
  • Heliolisk now is Electric / Dragon.
  • Heliolisk now learns Dragon Pulse, Draco Meteor, and Dragon Rage.
  • Heliolisk's Sand Veil is changed too Fluxuation.
  • Tyrantrum now has Rock Head released.
  • Aurorus now has Snow Warning released.
  • Goodra now has typed as Dragon / Poison.
  • Gourgeist now learns Perish Song.
  • Rattata has its hidden ability changed to Strong Jaw
  • Rattata now gets Ice Fang, Fire Fang, and Thunder Fang as egg moves
  • Psyduck's Hidden Ability is now Unaware
  • Ponyta now learns Play Rough by level-up
  • Magnemite has Sturdy changed to Levitate.
  • Voltorb now learns Rapid Spin by level-up
  • Tangela now has Entangled over Leaf Guard (Tangela is still banned from LC)
  • Eevee now learns Play Rough through breeding with Phanpy, Donphan, Poochyena, Mightyena, Linoone, Absol, Stunky, Skuntank, Snubbull, Granbull, Mawile, or Dedenne.
  • Dratini now learns Coil.
  • Chikorita's Hidden Ability is now Aroma Veil
  • Chikorita's Hidden Ability is now released
  • Cyndaquil now gets Earth Power as an egg move
  • Cyndaquil's Hidden Ability is now released
  • Totodile's Hidden Ability is now release.
  • Ledyba's typing is changed to Bug / Fighting.
  • Ledyba's Attack is now 25
  • Ledyba now has Huge Power as its hidden ability
  • Misdreavus is now Ghost / Fairy type.
  • Misdreavus now learns Boomburst at level one.
  • Pineco now has Insectate as its hidden ability
  • Mudkip's Hidden Ability is changed to Adaptability, it's based on a mudskipper, an animal that has adapted very much
  • Zigzagoon now gets ExtremeSpeed by level-up
  • Seedot is now Grass / Dark.
  • Ralts is now pure Psychic.
  • Skitty is now Fairy / Normal
  • Turtwig now learns Shell Smash
  • Piplup's Hidden Ability is changed to Thick Fat..
  • Mime Jr. is now purely Psychic to match Mr. Mime's typing
  • Munchlax now gets Slack Off as an egg move.
  • Snivy now has Contrary released
  • Tepig now has Thick Fat released
  • Oshawott now has Shell Armor released
  • Petilil is now Grass / Fairy
  • Petilil now learns Moonblast
  • Minccino's Technician is changed to Pickup
  • Ferroseed now has its Hidden Ability changed to Bulletproof.
  • Klink is now Steel / Electric
  • Klink has its abilities changed to Levitate
  • Litwick now has Shadow Tag as its Hidden Ability
  • Fennekin's Hidden Ability is now Alchemy.
  • Litleo now gets Boomburst as an egg move
  • Honedge now learns Head Smash.
  • Skrelp now has Adaptability released.
  • Tyrunt now has Sturdy released.
  • Amaura now has Snow Warning released.
  • Helioptile's Sand Veil is changed to Fluxuation.
  • Goomy is now Poison
  • Goomy can no longer learn Draco Meteor
  • Pumpkaboo now learns Perish Song
  • Magneton now has Levitate over Sturdy
  • Dragonair now learns Coil.
  • Bayleaf's Hidden Ability is now Aroma Veil
  • Bayleaf's Hidden Ability is now released
  • Quilava now gets Earth Power from Cindaquil
  • Quilava's Hidden Ability is now released
  • Croconaw's Hidden Ability is now released
  • Marshtomp's Hidden Ability is changed to Adaptability, it's based on a mudskipper, an animal that has adapted very much.
  • Kirlia is now pure Psychic.
  • Vibrava has its Hidden Ability changed to Sheer Force.
  • Grotle now learns Shell Smash
  • Prinplup's Hidden Ability is changed to Thick Fat.
  • Servine now has Contrary released
  • Pignite now has Thick Fat released
  • Dewott now has Shell Armor released
  • Klang is now Steel / Electric
  • Klang's abilities are now Levitate
  • Lampent's Hidden Ability is now Shadow Tag
  • Braixen's Hidden Ability is now Alchemy.
  • Doublade now learns Head Smash.
  • Sliggoo is now Poison / Dragon
  • Mega Mewtwo X has its ability changed to Limber.
  • Lugia now learns Hurricane.
  • Crux - Fire-type - Physical - 20 PP - 90% Accuracy - 100 Power - May lower opponent's Defense
  • Paleolithic Flux - Rock-type - Special - 20 PP - 100% Accuracy - 90 Power - May lower opponent's Special Defense.
  • Water Shuriken - Special > Physical
  • Shadow Ball + Flash Cannon - 80 ----> 90
  • Empathetic Mind - Doubles Special Attack (Huge Power, but Specially based)

  • Instecitsite - Turns all Normal-type moves to Bug-types moves and gives a +33% to power. (Pixilate copycat)
  • Entangle - Lowers opponent's Speed by 0.5x when they strike with a contact move.
  • Alchemy - Boosts power of all Special moves on the field by 10%.
  • Fluxuation - Summons Electric Terrain for five turns when sent into battle.
  • Drought / Drizzle / Snow Warning / Sand Stream - Now revert back to Generation 5 mechanics, however, to balance them the weather only takes affect the turn after the Pokemon is sent in. (EX: Politoed is sent in, at the end of the turn after that it Drizzle is summoned.)

The Justification Council
Hello everybody! I'm happy to announce we officially have a 'Justification Council', this council will consist of users I trust and users I know will make the right decisions. I can't exactly run this thread all by myself, so I've invited these members to be a part of this council. Welcome, the Council:
These council members have been given access by me to do the following:
  • Accept ideas
  • Reject ideas
  • Submit move ideas
They will be allowed to accept ideas and let me know to add them to the OP, or reject them if they feel they are unjust. I'm going to only allow these members to submit move ideas, as I don't really feel all moves will be just and I trust them to only add reasonable moves and ideas! Starting from this post on, they partially run the thread alongside me! That's all, have a nice day!

P.S. If you feel you are deserving of being added to this council, please PM me! I'm happy to add new members as long as I see fit!

  • Levitate Klingklang
  • Levitate Magnezone
  • Knock Off Tyranitar
  • Sucker Punch Tyranitar
  • Normal / Fairy Blissey
  • Icicle Spear Heracross
  • Sacred Sword Bisharp
  • Special Water Shuriken
  • Water Shuriken Accelgor
  • Fire / Rock Torkoal
  • Relic Song Chimecho
  • Perish Song Gourgeist
  • Waterfall Barbaracle
  • 90 Base Power Shadow Ball
  • 90 Base Power Flash Cannon
  • Brave Bird Aerodactyl
  • Drill Run Dodrio
  • Techno Blast Porygon2
  • Techno Blast Porygon-Z
  • Ice Punch Kyurem
  • Hurricane Lugia
  • All of The Reptile's post found here: Link.
  • Flare Blitz Entei by Level-up
  • Ghost / Fairy Misdreavus / Mismagius
  • Boomburst Misdreavus / Mismagius
  • Bulletproof Ferroseed / Ferrothorn
  • Insectate Butterfree
  • Base 90 Speed Butterfree
  • Base 95 Speed Beedrill
  • Quick Attack Beedrill
  • Switched Attack and Special Attack Sceptile
  • Bolt Strike Thundurus
  • Coil Dratini
  • Coil Dragonair
  • Aura Sphere Raikou
  • Surf Rotom-W, Giga Drain Rotom-M, Ice Beam Rotom-F, Hurricane Rotom-C, Flamethrower Rotom-H
  • Sheer Force Vibrava
  • Tinted Lens Flygon
  • Simple Xerneas ;-;
  • Nasty Plot Gengar
  • Fairy / Fighting Gallade
  • Ice Punch Kingler
  • Water Shuriken Ninjask
  • Water Shuriken Sceptile
  • Rapid Spin Kirlia
  • Luvdisc evolving into Alomomola
  • Simple Luvdisc
  • Water / Fairy Luvdisc
  • Water / Fairy Alomomola
  • Dragon / Fairy Latios
  • High Jump Kick Emboar
  • Shell Smash Samurott
  • Shell Smash Chesnaught
  • Water Shuriken Cloyster
  • Dragon / Fairy Goodra
  • Muddy Water acting like Flying Press with Water / Ground
  • Water-type Hurricane
  • Removing Chatot's access to Boomburst
  • Fire / Flying Mega Charizard X
  • Fire-type immunity to Frozen
  • Insectate Beedrill
  • Ghost / Normal Misdreavus / Mismagius
  • Special Attack version of Moxie Pyroar
  • Water / Dragon Gyarados

If you see something you suggested not on either of these lists, it means I'm considering it and have not decided which to put it into! This is to help keep the thread organized by showing you guys what I am not allowing and what I'm changing! If you see anything on the list of rejected that you don't like there do not hesitate to tell me why you think it should be approved! Please do make a worthwhile argument on this regard, don't say 'well, _______ should be allowed because it would be cool', that won't cut it with me. Thanks guys, keep up all your great suggestions!

Be sure to suggest new things and comment on anything I've already changed! :)

RULES OF THIS THREAD:
  • You may suggest anything, but please provide a detailed explanation.
  • Don't suggest random shit like Gooey Ursaring because it eats honey.
  • All suggestions must be approved by me
  • Have fuN :)



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GlassGlaceon

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#1. Venusaur is a dino, not a dragon
#2. Tauros is a bull that rams into things, not conjures things, why would it be special ?_?
#3. Rampardos- See #2 except rampardos is a dino so it makes even less sense
#4. ok yeah stunfisk hype train and all but huge power makes no sense -.-
#5. Why is heliolisk a dragon at all

other than those things, looks pretty cool. good job
 

wishes

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#1. Venusaur is a dino, not a dragon
#2. Tauros is a bull that rams into things, not conjures things, why would it be special ?_?
#3. Rampardos- See #2 except rampardos is a dino so it makes even less sense
#4. ok yeah stunfisk hype train and all but huge power makes no sense -.-
#5. Why is heliolisk a dragon at all

other than those things, looks pretty cool. good job
1.) Yeah I read up on that a while after I made that and never changed it u.u
2.) Not everything has to conjure things to be special, see stuff like Mega Charizard Y, it doesn't conjure stuff, but its Special Attack is really high. It's mainly for the special movepool honestly, but I'd change it back if anyone else wants me too.
3.) See 2.)
4.)
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Its skin is very hard, so it is unhurt even if stepped on by sumo wrestlers. It smiles when transmitting electricity.
I mean that's pretty power. And it has enough power to conceal itself in hard mud, but yeah, mostly just for shits and giggles. Will remove if anyone else wants me too :P!
5.) Heliolisk is based off of lizards, which resemble Dragons. Why does Normal-type make sense? I really like this change, so I don't think I'll remove it unless I'm persuaded to :)!

You got this approved, right? It sems interesting, but I just want to make sure :p
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Specially Attacking Zebstrika please :o
I wanted to do this as well, but Zebstrika's whole thing was showcasing Wild Charge, I don't really know how much this would help it anyways. But maybe.
 

Monte Cristo

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nice new pet mod fren :] it seems to have some kalos 2 influences to it as it's quite the large scale pet mod but the way you do it is extremely unique and I very much so see this as another fresh breath of air in the pet mod community. I will comment on some of your changes later, although this looks good so far!
 

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Simple Xerneas is an idea that just popped into my mind, who wants to break the game?
lol:
+4 252+ SpA Xerneas Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Chansey: 404-476 (57.3 - 67.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Ok, yeah, let's just leave Simple Xerneas ///away///
 
2.) Not everything has to conjure things to be special, see stuff like Mega Charizard Y, it doesn't conjure stuff, but its Special Attack is really high. It's mainly for the special movepool honestly, but I'd change it back if anyone else wants me too.
3.) See 2.)
Please, do. It doesn't have to conjure things, but it has to have lots of energy-related powers somehow. Bulls and head-smashing dinos do not have energy-related powers.
 

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This is a great idea, here are a few suggestions :
  • Nasty Plot Gengar would make sense flavour-wise, and have a lot of competitive implications behind it
  • Give Tyranitar Sucker Punch if you want it to be even better. Give Tyranitar Knock Off if you want it to be borderline broken.
  • Making Blissey a Normal/Fairy type, but keeping Chansey as a Normal-type, would be a good way to no longer make Blissey completely outclassed
  • A Fairy/Fighting Gallade would also make sense and make the Pokemon more useful overall
  • Cloyster seems like it could do with Water Shuriken
  • In fact, Icicle Spear would be fantastic on Heracross
That's all I can think of for now.
 
I may as well throw in some suggestions as well:
  • Bisharp should get Sacred Sword. I mean, come on, his whole body is covered with blades.
  • Also, give him, Aegislash-Blade, Samurott and maybe Gallade some sort of abilities that boost cutting-based moves.
  • Water Shuriken should totally have been special. Also, give Accelgor that.
  • Give Cryogonal an ability that reflects 50% (or maybe 33%) of the damage it received back to the attacker, if it is hit with a special move.
 
Give Kingler Ice Punch and Waterfall, because it needs moves to abuse sheer force with. Maybe Shell Smash as well.
In fact, give everything with Shell Armor as an ability Shell Smash. No way that could go wrong.
 
Agreeing on Water Shuriken being special and added to Accelgor. Also perhaps Sceptile, since it is rather ninja-inspired. [Ninjask for that matter too, but it would never use it]

I always found it strange that Torkoal was pure Fire and not Fire/Rock or Fire/Ground. I mean, it's pretty much a volcano turtle, and it's back is clearly rocks or something similar. It is even the 'coal' pokemon. I guess Fire/Rock because Numel line.

Kirlia should learn Rapid Spin. It is based on a ballerina, who do a lot of spinning.

Also, Luvdisc evolves into Alomomola, giving Alomomola access to Luvdisc's movepool. [Notable moves include Sweet Kiss and Charm]. They also both become Water/Fairy type, due to their heart shapes.
 
When will this be playable? I'm interested to play it, as I love these kinds of mods. :)

But... if you lower a speed by 1.5x (Entangle)... does that mean it has -50% speed?
I think you mean 0.5x. :P


Oh, and poor Meganium. It's hidden ability isn't released...

 
Granbull should be Fairy/Fighting, i mean look at em spiky bracelets and collar!
Luvdisk should get Simple, its just that simple.
Chimecho should get Relic Song as a move, its a windchime. Oh and along with the ability Lullaby, making you drowsy when she comes in.
Goodra should get Sticky Hold, look at all the goo!
Gourgeist should get Perish Song, read the dex.
 

Valmanway

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I'd like to nominate Shadow Ball and Flash Cannon getting 90 power instead of 80. My reason being Energy Ball. Energy Ball, Shadow Ball, and Flash Cannon were the same exact thing aside from being different offensive types for two generations in a row, and I was surprised to see Energy Ball get buffed to 90 power but not the other two. There's a lacking of strong special Ghost- and Steel-type moves, so this might be a good idea.

Also, I'd like to change Arcanine to a Normal-type, and replace Flash Fire with Guts. Arcanine just looks more like a Normal-type than a Fire-type, and it would still make sense if it has Flare Blitz since Normal-types have a wide variety of move types. Guts would replace Flash Fire for flavor reasons, and is a good ability for Arcanine in general.
 
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  • Venusaur now learns Dragon Pulse by TM, as it is a dinosaur thing, and it makes sense. Is there even a Dragon Pulse TM? Good otherwise
  • Blastoise now learns Shell Smash, it breaks its shell.
  • Blastoise has its Speed lowered to 68 to not make it overpowered with Shell Smash.
  • Raticate has its Hidden Ability changed to Strong Jaws.
  • Golduck is now Water / Psychic, as it is smart and its pre-evolution is Psyduck, so it makes sense.
  • Golduck's Hidden Ability is now Analytic, because it analyzes stuff and is smart.
  • Poliwrath now learns Drain Punch at level 60, why doesn't it?
  • Rapidash is now Fire / Fairy, as it is a pegasus.
  • Electrode now learns Rapid Spin by level up.
  • Mr. Mime is now purely Psychic, as Fairy-type does not make sense.
  • Gyarados now learns Crunch at level 55, it has a huge mouth to Crunch with.
  • Snorlax now learns Slack Off through breeding with Slowpoke, Slowbro, or Slowking.
  • Dragonair is now Dragon / Fairy, as it is mythical and looks like a Fairy.
  • Dragonite is now Dragon / Fairy, as it is mythical and is always happy, it looks very Fairy-like. Nope. Flying already fits well Dragonite, and imo no type that fits well should be repleaced, even if some other type fits as good.
  • Typhlosion now learns Earth Power by breeding with Numel.
  • Typhlosion's Hidden Ability is now released.
  • Feraligatr's Hidden Ability is now released.
  • Ledian's typing is changed to Bug / Fighting.
  • Ledian now has 45 Base Attack.
  • Ledian now has Huge Power as its Hidden Ability.
  • Unown now has Empathetic Mind as its Hidden Ability. Lol
  • Forretress now has Instecitsite as its Hidden Ability.
  • Dunsparce is now a Dragon / Ground type Pokemon. Give Dragon moves, it hasn't any (LOL HP Dragon)
  • Miltank now has access to Rapid Spin through level up.
  • Raikou's Hidden Ability is released.
  • Raikou now learns Fusion Bolt. Why should it get Fusion Bolt? Unlike Entei, which is closely related to Ho-oh, Raikou lacks any relationship with Zekrom, plus Fusion Bolt won't help at all.
  • Entei's Hidden Ability is released.
  • Suicune's Hidden Ability is released.
  • Suicune now learns Aeroblast.
Give Doges access to Extreme Speed and their respective event moves by level up.
  • Swampert's Hidden Ability is changed to Adaptability, it's based on a mudskipper, a very adaptive animal.
  • Linoone now learns Extreme Speed by level-up
  • Swellow has its Attack and Special Attack swapped.
  • Delcatty is now Fairy / Normal.
  • Castform now has a sand form that is Rock-type.
  • Kecleon now learns all tutor moves from BW2 through breeding.
  • Latias is now Dragon / Fairy. What about Latios? Either both or none.
  • Latias-Mega is now Dragon / Fairy.
  • Prinplup's Hidden Ability is changed to Thick Fat.
  • Empoleon's Hidden Ability is changed to Competitive.
  • Staraptor is now Fighting / Flying.
  • Rampardos now learns Paleolithic Flux at level 65.
  • Bronzong now learns Heal Bell. (there ya go The Eevee General <3)
  • Garchomp now learns Extreme Speed.
  • Carnivine's Hidden Ability is changed to Entangle.
  • Tangrowth has Leaf Guard changed to Entangle.
  • Serperior is now Grass / Dragon.
  • Serperior now has Contrary released.
  • Emboar now has Reckless released. Maybe (High) Jump Kick?
  • Samurott now has Shell Armor released. Give a better ability at least. Or Shell Smash access.
  • Musharna's Hidden Ability is changed Magic Bounce.
  • Audino is now Normal / Fairy.
  • Lilligant is now Grass / Fairy.
  • Lilligant now learns Moonblast.
  • Krookodile has its Attack raised from 117 to 127.
  • Cinccino's Technician is changed to Fur Coat.
  • Klinklang is now Steel / Electric.
  • Chandelure has its Hidden Ability changed from Infiltrator to Shadow Tag. Please no. Seriously hasn't Mega Gengar taught you something?
  • Stunfisk has Limber changed to Huge Power. (fuck yeah)
  • Meloetta has its ability changed to Soundproof.
  • Chesnaught now learns Drain Punch. Also give Shell Smash. It has like the easiest shell to throw in the Pokémon world
  • Delphox's Hidden Ability is now Alchemy.
  • Pyroar now learns Boomburst.
  • Florges is now Fairy / Grass.
  • Slurpuff now learns Crux.
  • Dragalge now has Adaptability released.
  • Heliolisk now is Electric / Dragon.
  • Heliolisk now learns Dragon Pulse, Draco Meteor, and Dragon Rage. Should also have Heat Wave, Earth Power and Weather Ball
  • Heliolisk's Sand Veil is changed too Fluxuation.
  • Tyrantrum now has Rock Head released.
  • Aurorus now has Snow Warning released.
  • Goodra now has typed as Dragon / Poison.
  • Eevee now learns Play Rough through breeding with Phanpy, Donphan, Poochyena, Mightyena, Linoone, Absol, Stunky, Skuntank, Snubbull, Granbull, Mawile, or Dedenne.
  • Mudkip's Hidden Ability is changed to Adaptability, it's based on a mudskipper, an animal that has adapted very much
  • Seedot is now Grass / Dark.
  • Ralts is now pure Psychic.
  • Skitty is now Fairy / Normal.
  • Piplup's Hidden Ability is changed to Thick Fat.
  • Munna's Hidden Ability is changed to Magic Bounce.
  • Fennekin's Hidden Ability is now Alchemy.
  • Honedge now learns Head Smash.
  • Skrelp now has Adaptability released.
  • Tyrunt now has Sturdy released.
  • Amaura now has Snow Warning released.
  • Marshtomp's Hidden Ability is changed to Adaptability, it's based on a mudskipper, an animal that has adapted very much.
  • Kirlia is now pure Psychic.
  • Braixen's Hidden Ability is now Alchemy.
  • Doublade now learns Head Smash.
  • Mega Mewtwo X has its ability changed to Limber.
  • Crux - Fire-type - Physical - 20 PP - 90% Accuracy - 100 Power - May lower opponent's Defense Why the only Pokémon learning this is Slurpuff of all things? Give it to Arcanine or something.
  • Paleolithic Flux - Rock-type - Special - 20 PP - 100% Accuracy - 90 Power - May lower opponent's Special Defense. Give to every fossil Pokémon.
  • Focus Blast should be either 120 P/80% A like Gunk Shot or 110 P/70 A like Thunder.
  • All moves that cannot miss(Aerial Ace, Shadow Punch, Feint Attack etc.) should be buffed to 80 base power to follow Aura Sphere.
  • Empathetic Mind - Doubles Special Attack (Huge Power, but Specially based)

  • Instecitsite - Turns all Normal-type moves to Bug-types moves and gives a +33% to power. (Pixilate copycat)
  • Entangle - Lowers opponent's Speed by 1.5x when they strike with a contact move.
  • Alchemy - Boosts power of all Special moves on the field by 10%.
  • Fluxuation - Summons Electric Terrain for five turns when sent into battle.
  • Drought / Drizzle / Snow Warning / Sand Stream - Now revert back to Generation 5 mechanics, however, to balance them the weather only takes affect the turn after the Pokemon is sent in. (EX: Politoed is sent in, at the end of the turn after that it Drizzle is summoned.)




 

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Latios should not be part fairy ,latias' "cutsey" and sisterly design make it a fairy type while latios is a much more telepathic twin focused on brute force. just cause they originally are twins doesn't mean they have to have the same everything.

Chesnaught doesn't get a shell, it's a shield. that's like saying shell smash aegislash.

Samurott has no shell to smash, it's armor, like escavalier.

Emboar has skipped leg day, it has the legs of a mega gengar, no way it's HJKing.

Dragonite is plausible since tbh fairy is extremely fitting (so is water but hey give kingdra aniche) but to avoid issues with latias i t shouldn't be fairy imo. I think it's wings aren't plausible enough for it to be a flying type, levitate as secondary ability over inner focus and pure dragon type make it a mixed back since now it counters landorus still however it can't both counter lando and multiscale at the same time. This gives mence a niche wit hthe fighting resist.
 

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Levitate Klingklang and Magnezone when

This is a neat pet mod tho.

Also, off topic, your post count is 2stron :o


This is a great idea, here are a few suggestions :
  • Nasty Plot Gengar would make sense flavour-wise, and have a lot of competitive implications behind it
  • Give Tyranitar Sucker Punch if you want it to be even better. Give Tyranitar Knock Off if you want it to be borderline broken.
  • Making Blissey a Normal/Fairy type, but keeping Chansey as a Normal-type, would be a good way to no longer make Blissey completely outclassed
  • A Fairy/Fighting Gallade would also make sense and make the Pokemon more useful overall
  • Cloyster seems like it could do with Water Shuriken
  • In fact, Icicle Spear would be fantastic on Heracross
That's all I can think of for now.
I love all these ideas except for Cloyster, Gengar, and Gallade. Gallade is a fighter, based off of a gladiator, and although it makes sense thanks to Gardevoir, I removed the Fairy-typing from Ralts and Kirlia so it wasn't awkward anymore. Cloyster may be a bit too strong with a priority +2 STAB move that breaks Subs, but it could be worth consideration, need input from others. Nasty Plot Gengar would be phenomenal! But, it would be broken beyond belief. I mean:
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Gengar Sludge Wave vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 257-304 (36.5 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Gengar Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Chansey: 317-374 (45 - 53.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
That's just freaking crazy. I'll add it for now, but if it proves to be broken, well... Also, Mega Gengar would be so strong I'd have to nerf Shadow Tag as well. Or ban it from Ubers lol u.u! Thanks for your ideas! :)

I may as well throw in some suggestions as well:
  • Bisharp should get Sacred Sword. I mean, come on, his whole body is covered with blades.
  • Also, give him, Aegislash-Blade, Samurott and maybe Gallade some sort of abilities that boost cutting-based moves.
  • Water Shuriken should totally have been special. Also, give Accelgor that.
  • Give Cryogonal an ability that reflects 50% (or maybe 33%) of the damage it received back to the attacker, if it is hit with a special move.
I'm liking these, but I don't understand the ability for Cryogonal, I'm a bit confused by how this is worded. Could you explain it a bit more? Thanks!

Give Kingler Ice Punch and Waterfall, because it needs moves to abuse sheer force with. Maybe Shell Smash as well.
In fact, give everything with Shell Armor as an ability Shell Smash. No way that could go wrong.
I don't like Ice Punch, but I buffed Crabhammer in return to make up for this. I don't get how it punches with crab claws, so I don't think I'll be doing this. And I'm considering a list of Shell Armor Pokemon to give it too, so I'll post that soon.

Agreeing on Water Shuriken being special and added to Accelgor. Also perhaps Sceptile, since it is rather ninja-inspired. [Ninjask for that matter too, but it would never use it]

I always found it strange that Torkoal was pure Fire and not Fire/Rock or Fire/Ground. I mean, it's pretty much a volcano turtle, and it's back is clearly rocks or something similar. It is even the 'coal' pokemon. I guess Fire/Rock because Numel line.

Kirlia should learn Rapid Spin. It is based on a ballerina, who do a lot of spinning.

Also, Luvdisc evolves into Alomomola, giving Alomomola access to Luvdisc's movepool. [Notable moves include Sweet Kiss and Charm]. They also both become Water/Fairy type, due to their heart shapes.
Sceptile and Ninjask will not be getting this move, sorry, but I just don't like it flavor wise and yeah, Accelgor is a ninja and it has Hydration, it makes perfect sense with Water, so. Torkoal, I'll be adding Rock-typing too, thanks! Kirlia is... well... I don't know to be honest. By this logic then so should Lilligant, I don't know, I like the idea, but it kind of is along the lines of Gooey Ursaring. And I'll not be doing evolutions in the mod, sorry, and I'm not making them Fairy-types either because I'm of the belief of Fairies being based off of mythology and such. Thanks a lot!

When will this be playable? I'm interested to play it, as I love these kinds of mods. :)

But... if you lower a speed by 1.5x (Entangle)... does that mean it has -50% speed?
I think you mean 0.5x. :P


Oh, and poor Meganium. It's hidden ability isn't released...

Oh yeah, thanks! And Meganium is one of my favorites, but its ability is shit ;-;.

Granbull should be Fairy/Fighting, i mean look at em spiky bracelets and collar!
Luvdisk should get Simple, its just that simple.
Chimecho should get Relic Song as a move, its a windchime. Oh and along with the ability Lullaby, making you drowsy when she comes in.
Goodra should get Sticky Hold, look at all the goo!
Gourgeist should get Perish Song, read the dex.
Granbull is no, I don't think its right to change its typing twice like that, not digging it very much. Its name means 'dog fairy' according to mythology, I don't see how Fighting-type fits with this very well. Chimecho should yeah, I'll add this! Goodra is just bleh, I don't like it and I don't think this helps at all, but it doesn't make more sense than any of its others ability, so I don't know which one to replace, I will if you tell me one though. Gourgeist I was super iffy on, then I read the dex descriptions. Definitely adding, thank you very much!

Will Serperior be able to learn Draco Meteor now that it's Dragon typed?
Yes.

give barbaracle waterfall
give every single physical poison type gunk shot (well maybe not the nido's for balance sake)
I'm not doing the second one, if they should learn Gunk Shot then they should, I don't see many that should, I will add Nidoqueen though, not Nidoking, for balance. Barbaracle doesn't get Waterfall? u.u?? Thanks, added!

  • Dragonite: It has wings, but so does Flygon. I'm keeping it unless more people disagree u.u
  • Dunsparce: o yeah, thx
  • Raikou: Because it is the 100 base power thing in share with Entei and Suicune, but like yeah, it's just for flavor.
  • Latias: It's the more feminine pinkish one, Latios is more masculine and makes more sense being the way it is, not changing sorry.
  • Emboar: Ain't got the legs, no thx.
  • Samurott: Doesn't have a Shell, see no need for Shell Smash.
  • Chandelure: We'll see how it goes, it may be banned, but we'll see.'
  • Chesnaught: Nah, it's Shell is armor, not a "shell" kind of, unlike its pre-evos, who may get it, maybe not.
  • Heliolisk: Now now, let's not overpower it.
Thanks for your input :)!
 

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