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Legit hacks
- Thread starter Kenshin
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Thanks for this. This place was getting so repetitive but this thread is ever so refreshing with it's innovative "Is hacking okay?" angle.
Firstly, there's no such thing as a legit hack, by the very definition of the term. Legal hack might be better. Secondly, I guess as long as you tell the opponent beforehand, then I don't see a problem.
Firstly, there's no such thing as a legit hack, by the very definition of the term. Legal hack might be better. Secondly, I guess as long as you tell the opponent beforehand, then I don't see a problem.
This subject has been beaten to death and then some.
Looks like these threads have become more popular, I guess it's because we may haven't been taking hacking as seriously as we should...however, that's probably not even the case.
Hacking isn't by any means legit, however, some people allow battling with people who have Pokemon created by means of PokeSav, AR, and other hacking mediums. "Legit hacking" seems like an oxymoron, it's like a hooker in church, it just doesn't add up. :/ I guess we can call it "Fair hacking", as the Pokemon that has been hacked should have legitimate stats, not too perfect IVs (Double Perfect is pushing it), and the moveset and stats are completely within limits of said Pokemon.
I'm not saying that hacking should/shouldn't be allowed, I'm completely fine battling people who PokeSav'd reasonable Pokemon. Although it makes me laugh about Mewtwo, because he was PokeSav'd. :D
Hacking isn't by any means legit, however, some people allow battling with people who have Pokemon created by means of PokeSav, AR, and other hacking mediums. "Legit hacking" seems like an oxymoron, it's like a hooker in church, it just doesn't add up. :/ I guess we can call it "Fair hacking", as the Pokemon that has been hacked should have legitimate stats, not too perfect IVs (Double Perfect is pushing it), and the moveset and stats are completely within limits of said Pokemon.
I'm not saying that hacking should/shouldn't be allowed, I'm completely fine battling people who PokeSav'd reasonable Pokemon. Although it makes me laugh about Mewtwo, because he was PokeSav'd. :D
It may have legal moves and stats, but that doesn't mean it's legit.
If it has legal moves and stats within the legal limits of the game, it's perfectly fine.
This is Smogon. Basically everone here has played via netbattle, which is essentially playing Pokemon where ALL your pokemon are hacked.
The truth is anyone that plays a serious competitive game will hack their pokemon. Having to level your pokemon has nothing to do with competition. The best I can do is link you to Sirlin... http://www.sirlin.net/archive/playing-to-win-part-1/ That outlines the basics of competitive play for ALL games. Basically, there are always people willing to call "cheap" when they lose. These people are just making excuses. As long as you follow the rules(have all your stats set straight, don't add more than the max amount of EVs, only use abilities your pokemon are allowed to have) then you're doing alright. No one can even prove you're cheating, either.
The truth is anyone that plays a serious competitive game will hack their pokemon. Having to level your pokemon has nothing to do with competition. The best I can do is link you to Sirlin... http://www.sirlin.net/archive/playing-to-win-part-1/ That outlines the basics of competitive play for ALL games. Basically, there are always people willing to call "cheap" when they lose. These people are just making excuses. As long as you follow the rules(have all your stats set straight, don't add more than the max amount of EVs, only use abilities your pokemon are allowed to have) then you're doing alright. No one can even prove you're cheating, either.
qft, took the words out of my mouth. I have nothing more to say.
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Yeah, if you have to cheat to win, it doesn't really how good you are. And a lot of people are strictly against hacking so don't assume that thecheat like you presumably do. Netbattle and Shoddy exist for a reason, and they don't interfere with the real game. It's just like cheating in any other game. It's dishonest, and I personally think it can sometimes reflect in real life if you're willing to cheat at a game meant for not only competitive gamers, but for children as well, just to win. You want perfect 31 IVs and the best of egg moves? Use Shoddy and NB and don't interfere with the games. They're battle simulators, not the real, 100% thing. They're fair because your opponent will have the same broken IVs as you do, unlike the games, where they largely vary.
Quoted for truth. As long as you don't trade it, or anything else hacked.
What?! Listen, a person can hack Pokemon if they want (so long as they remain within the limits of the legit game, and they do not trade those Pokemon to others) but there are many people here who take Wi-Fi seriously, yet still choose not to use hacked Pokemon. The assumption that someone needs sextuple flawless IV's to remain competitive in Wi-Fi is naive at best, as is the assumption that breeding one competitive Pokemon and then trading for 5 others is a hard and long process.
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw/intermediates-guide/how-far-should-you-go-to-win/
I'm pretty sure most Tournaments say "no hacked stuff, nothing with AR/Pokesav" etc.
I think you completely missed the point of Sirlin's article if you can even make the statement that
Breeding is a part of the competition if you have not realized. It's almost like saying "Any serious Magic the Gathering player will play with proxy cards to win tournaments".
Also I recommend you read the last part of the article you linked to, about the part about self improvement.
As long as the pokemon is within it's bounderies there is nothing logically wrong with using it.Some people will complain that it's not fair cause he took longer to get his pokemon then you but that's usually all they come up with.
