I'm going to tell TropicalSplash on the Lewtwocord about this.
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(Little) Things that annoy you in Pokémon
- Thread starter BriarRose
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Realized how awful Cerulean city's map is.
The only exit is through a cut tree, the only other exit is through a grunt conveniently breaking and entering through the backyard... for a dig TM...
If that grunt robbed anyone else the player character would be stuck there
The only exit is through a cut tree, the only other exit is through a grunt conveniently breaking and entering through the backyard... for a dig TM...
If that grunt robbed anyone else the player character would be stuck there
So this is literally inverting "she took the kids" when Lillie leaves at the end of SM's version of the story.
I'm not sure I share Yung Dramps's read because Nebby spends so much more time with Lillie and away from you, compared to an interpretation like the Anime where Nebby bonds with Lillie in particular but is still familiar with the cast almost like a "Class Pet" vibe to fit the School setting.
I can go with it a little more in USUM where Lillie is still in Alola, where even besides the Necrozma thing, she acknowledges you can take better care of Nebby while she still has growing to do. At the same time USUM at least doesn't have her exit your and Nebby's life for the foreseeable future, as I don't think she needs to be a trainer to be bonded with a Pokemon, and you'd probably only be a marginally more qualified caretaker considering Nebby's literally Alien to everyone.
Slowpoke can be blamed on Ruby and Sapphire, it was the same color as Slowbro in Gen 2. Slowking is the fault of Diamond and Pearl, it was the same pink as shiny Slowpoke in Gen 3.
I think this has come up before, but the brief talk in the news thread & to an extent Pokemon Go has gotten me thinking about it again and
it's weird/annoying they don't really bother with giving out shiny mythics, right?
Like fine, whatever. They -outside of the miracle that is BDSP I guess- don't want you getting shinies of them in the wild. Sometimes that's maybe on how they set up their dumb system (SV comes to mind...) but otherwise it seems pretty purposeful (Phione in L:A....why tho....that's the one you can ALWAYS and forever get.....). And gifts in general seem to be in the same boat*. So sure, the events can be the main avenue of distribution.
but like....why not at least give them out as events? Seems an easy & fun way to do this kind of thing. But....
Shiny wild Mythic events (again we'll exclude BDSP for this) stopped being "a thing" with BW1. So let's just track from 2010 & skip Phione for obvious reasons:
Anyway point is: if you got them, maybe do something with them? Even with the older ones....like Shiny Mew was in Paldean Fates TCG set and you can't even link it up to the Pokemon Go Shiny Mew as a tie in; the "rerun" of the ticket was months earlier. There was a Shining Mew all the way back in a 2017 set and nothing to go with it...at that point the only way "Shiny Mew" existed at all was Gen 2 giveaways that can't be brought forward and a Japanese-exclusive event for Emerald that you had to SR for.
Do more stuff like Zeraora or just a fun giveaway out of the blue. Release Shiny Hoopa for Golden Week one year. Shiny Victini could be a yearly thing for Worlds, wouldn't that be fun? And so on and so forth.
*The fact we have shiny Solgaleo & Lunala but not Cosmog(/Cosmoem) because they keep being relegated to shiny-locked gift encounters (even in a game where you can hunt for shiny Solgaleo/Lunala....) is just...really silly.
it's weird/annoying they don't really bother with giving out shiny mythics, right?
Like fine, whatever. They -outside of the miracle that is BDSP I guess- don't want you getting shinies of them in the wild. Sometimes that's maybe on how they set up their dumb system (SV comes to mind...) but otherwise it seems pretty purposeful (Phione in L:A....why tho....that's the one you can ALWAYS and forever get.....). And gifts in general seem to be in the same boat*. So sure, the events can be the main avenue of distribution.
but like....why not at least give them out as events? Seems an easy & fun way to do this kind of thing. But....
Shiny wild Mythic events (again we'll exclude BDSP for this) stopped being "a thing" with BW1. So let's just track from 2010 & skip Phione for obvious reasons:
First the gen 1-4 ones you could at least get before the time period (Mew in Japanese Emerald, Jirachi with the colo bonus disc, Deoxys with Aurora Ticket, Darkrai & Manaphy with their event items, Manaphy if you jump through hella hoops & I'm not even sure if bank/home accepts it actually).
Mew? Nothing
Jirachi? 2014 in Japan, 2015 in Hong Kong
Deoxys? Never.
Manaphy? Never, and the BDSP egg was locked.
Darkrai? Never.
Shaymin? Never.
Then from here we'll shift away from "at least you COULD get them before this time period."
Celebi? 2020/2021 for the Zarude movie. Side note: Kinda funny that without this, the only post-gen 2 relese of this *at all* was with the VC Crystal re-release since I don't think the Colosseum Japanese disc let you roll for a shiny.
Arceus? 2015 in Japan (a random chance) (though, thanks to BDSP [& Legends] anyone can get this. Happy ending!)
Victini? Never
Keldeo? Never
Meloetta? Never
Genesect? 2013, for the movie.
Diancie? 2015 in Japan, 2016 in South Korea
Hoopa? Never
Volcanion? Never
Magearna? Never. SM didn't even have a shiny pallet for it, that was added in Gen 8 and based it on the anime's uncolored Magearna. Then promptly never released it.
Magearna Original Colors? Never. But to be fair the regular Original Color wasn't even given out until Home.
Marshadow? Never.
Zeraora? 2020, for the Max Raid event. Considering its contemporaries this honestly feels inexplicable.
Meltan/Melmetal? I thought about excluding these, since the way to obtain them is technically "in the wild" but also its only during special time periods. So equivalent in spirit?
Melmetal G-Max? Because you can't give Melmetal max soup, even though Shiny Melmetal exists you can't have it G-Max. I kind of wonder if this might change with the coming of Dynamax to Go....
Zarude, Dada Zarude & Pecharunt? Triple Never but like...they're still pretty recent. So fair. And hey good on dada zarude for getting released at all.
When we bring in Go, that only gives us Mew (a purchaseable ticket in 2021 & 2023), Celebi (a Zarude tie-in event and a 2024 purchaseable ticket), Jirachi (a 2022 purchaseblae ticket), Deoxys (when it's in Raids, last time was in 2022 I think), Shaymin (a 2023 purchaseable ticket), Darkrai (when it's in raids, was latest available earlier this year) & Genesect (when it's in raids, last around in 2023). The big hope point is that maybe Go will get to eventually release that big long list of "Nevers" but even if that does happen it is at best one a year and more likely than not locked to a ticket on top of the time gate. & if [meltan/melmetal aside] they're forever beholden to the main games releasing them first it may never happen!
Mew? Nothing
Jirachi? 2014 in Japan, 2015 in Hong Kong
Deoxys? Never.
Manaphy? Never, and the BDSP egg was locked.
Darkrai? Never.
Shaymin? Never.
Then from here we'll shift away from "at least you COULD get them before this time period."
Celebi? 2020/2021 for the Zarude movie. Side note: Kinda funny that without this, the only post-gen 2 relese of this *at all* was with the VC Crystal re-release since I don't think the Colosseum Japanese disc let you roll for a shiny.
Arceus? 2015 in Japan (a random chance) (though, thanks to BDSP [& Legends] anyone can get this. Happy ending!)
Victini? Never
Keldeo? Never
Meloetta? Never
Genesect? 2013, for the movie.
Diancie? 2015 in Japan, 2016 in South Korea
Hoopa? Never
Volcanion? Never
Magearna? Never. SM didn't even have a shiny pallet for it, that was added in Gen 8 and based it on the anime's uncolored Magearna. Then promptly never released it.
Magearna Original Colors? Never. But to be fair the regular Original Color wasn't even given out until Home.
Marshadow? Never.
Zeraora? 2020, for the Max Raid event. Considering its contemporaries this honestly feels inexplicable.
Meltan/Melmetal? I thought about excluding these, since the way to obtain them is technically "in the wild" but also its only during special time periods. So equivalent in spirit?
Melmetal G-Max? Because you can't give Melmetal max soup, even though Shiny Melmetal exists you can't have it G-Max. I kind of wonder if this might change with the coming of Dynamax to Go....
Zarude, Dada Zarude & Pecharunt? Triple Never but like...they're still pretty recent. So fair. And hey good on dada zarude for getting released at all.
When we bring in Go, that only gives us Mew (a purchaseable ticket in 2021 & 2023), Celebi (a Zarude tie-in event and a 2024 purchaseable ticket), Jirachi (a 2022 purchaseblae ticket), Deoxys (when it's in Raids, last time was in 2022 I think), Shaymin (a 2023 purchaseable ticket), Darkrai (when it's in raids, was latest available earlier this year) & Genesect (when it's in raids, last around in 2023). The big hope point is that maybe Go will get to eventually release that big long list of "Nevers" but even if that does happen it is at best one a year and more likely than not locked to a ticket on top of the time gate. & if [meltan/melmetal aside] they're forever beholden to the main games releasing them first it may never happen!
Anyway point is: if you got them, maybe do something with them? Even with the older ones....like Shiny Mew was in Paldean Fates TCG set and you can't even link it up to the Pokemon Go Shiny Mew as a tie in; the "rerun" of the ticket was months earlier. There was a Shining Mew all the way back in a 2017 set and nothing to go with it...at that point the only way "Shiny Mew" existed at all was Gen 2 giveaways that can't be brought forward and a Japanese-exclusive event for Emerald that you had to SR for.
Do more stuff like Zeraora or just a fun giveaway out of the blue. Release Shiny Hoopa for Golden Week one year. Shiny Victini could be a yearly thing for Worlds, wouldn't that be fun? And so on and so forth.
*The fact we have shiny Solgaleo & Lunala but not Cosmog(/Cosmoem) because they keep being relegated to shiny-locked gift encounters (even in a game where you can hunt for shiny Solgaleo/Lunala....) is just...really silly.
Mmm, I don't think so? The Pokemon Go wiki doesn't list them, Serebii doesnt seem to list them (though this Previous Raid Battles page is absolutely awful). & I believe from the various infographics that all the legends (aside from the Go Fest related ones, obviously) this season have been focused on flying Pokemon, so the forces of natures, the birds, yveltal, etc.
Kirlia's base stats make me cringe. Why did a middle evolution have to end up COMPLETELY NONVIABLE in NFE? One of, if not the, most popular middle evolution mons in Gen 3? Hell, you can put it into LC and somehow it's still balanced for that tier.
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My brother in Arceus are you really thinking GameFreaks gives a shit about "LC" and "NFE" in their design?
EXPECIALLY in earlier gens when competitive pokemon didn't even exist, and more so in anything that isn't official competitive play?
And not like Kirlia is the only middle staged evolution that's completely unviable anywhere.
If anything they're probably asking "who is insane enough to try and use anything other than fully evolved pokemon in PvP?"
I suspect the point is less "how did gamefreak drop the ball like this for belvoed competitive format, NFE" and more "why is this middle stage so bad that EVEN IN THESE FAN FORMATS its trash"My brother in Arceus are you really thinking GameFreaks gives a shit about "LC" and "NFE" in their design?
EXPECIALLY in earlier gens when competitive pokemon didn't even exist, and more so in anything that isn't official competitive play?
And not like Kirlia is the only middle staged evolution that's completely unviable anywhere.
If anything they're probably asking "who is insane enough to try and use anything other than fully evolved pokemon in PvP?"
e: Kirlia, the Delcatty of middle stages
Almost like it's part of the line design, the growth of the weak vulnerable Ralts (basically a baby) into Kirlia who is slightly less delicate but still weak and in need of protection (like a young kid) and finally blooming in the beautiful and powerful Gardevoir (and Gallade later, both stated as being protective of their trainer) as reward for the time and effort the trainer invested in them.
As you know, I am of the opinion we should *praise* creative designs that aren't just "let's slap +30 to stats at every evo", not trash any time a Pokemon isn't viable in PvP because apparently every single pokemon has to be Landorus Therian.
Kirlia and Ralts being shit annoys me not for competitive reasons, but for "these things feel awful to use in-game" reasons. You wanna make Ralts hot trash to parallel Wally being weak and frail at the start of his journey? Sure, fine, whatever. You didn't need to also make Kirlia worse than Unown.
The problem is really that the Abra line is the barometer for psychics. Catch an Abra(TBF, not easy) and teach it any TM and you're better off than Ralts. And Abra evolves into Kadabra at 16, which is arguably better than Gardevoir(worse lvl-up moves and defenses, better sweeper stats and TMs). Meanwhile, Ralts evolves at 20 into a mon that has worse stats than Abra, and won't become useable until 30.
Now yes, that's partly because the Abra line is busted. But when a middle stage would be non-viable in LC because there's first stages that are clearly better, that's a concern. If I'm struggling with Budew's stats from lvls 20-30, the final evo better be INCREDIBLE, and Gardevoir is no better and arguably worse than any given Psychic final evo.
Go player, neither of these two have been in raids within the season, certainly not within July or August. One liner replies have progressed from "uh actually" to actual misinformation now.
Those are indeed incorrect, unless this is including some very specific in-person event, which they’ve done with stuff like Latios and Latias megas.
Apologies if that felt more snide than deserved, I didn’t realize you had a should-be-trustworthy source to cite in this case
Seems to be a database-wide error. Looks like literally every dex page currently lists July 22-24 as the most recent raid availability.
For deoxys and genesect specifically, I think deoxys was last available during Hoenn tour (Feb 2023) and Genesect was available around Nov 2023. (Though it's possible they've been back since and I just didn't raid them since I got the shiny the previous run)
With regard to the availability of mythicals, given that they are not all making it into each game, it would be nice if TPC would let Niantic release shiny mythicals that haven't been released in the main series yet. Like, unless we get some pleasant surprises with LZA's dex or out-of-order BW remakes, we're not seeing Keldeo or Victini until gen 10, just let Niantic release them for Unova tour next February.
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Overblown.
Kirlia is more than serviceable in RSE because of how insane early Calm Mind is, and it gets Psychic just in time for that last push towards evolution.
Gen 6 Kirlia can also pull its weight with better moves and Fairy-type.
Even in Platinum's higher power level, it turns out fine despite being food against Fantina.
Gallade doesn't have a Kirlia phase. The earlier it evolves, the better.
In newer games, Exp. All and candy carry anything.
Kirlia is never a problem in-game. Even Ralts only kind of starts to fall off around lv. 18. The main issue with using it is the Slow Exp. Group, but that persists on evolution anyway.
Been playing Red Rescue Team on NSO and I gotta say, Abilities like Poison Point and Flame Body proccing off attacks like Thunder Shock and the like really runs counter to my core series player sensibilities.
Relying on Calm Mind means "useless against Route trainers", since by the time it sets up it's taken multiple hits and anything else would have killed already. And you can't exactly set up against Flannery(Magnitude, Light Screen, poison) or Wattson(Status spam) anyway. Unless you spam healing items, but anything can win with enough Super Potions shoved down it's throat. Same with EXP Candy, if you're using them, you're admitting the mon sucks.
Yes, Gardevoir is good, but mons known for requiring an excess of training, like Gyarados and Kadabra, have been busted for 10+ levels by the time Gard is online. Until that point, why did GF think 278 BST on a middle stage was a good idea?
Calm Mind is for bosses. No one actually uses or needs to use Calm Mind unless they plan on making sure they're sweeping those 6 mon breeder trainers. Regular trainer encounters are too short to set up, most of them have 2 mons.
Only absolute shitmons like Unown and Ledian have issues with route clearing, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Ledian being able to hold its own. Hell, I'm smoking GS trainers with Lick Gastly as we speak.
Kirlia isn't amazing, but it's not the deadweight people paint it as.
Blueballs In Four Acts
>"It's the Legends Arceus tie-in special! Except, actually, 4 Hisui Pokemon just cameo briefly in a fantasy sequence. Dawn doesn't even put on the Survey Corps uniform"
>"Ash, Goh and Dawn get the Hisui starters! Except, actually, these are just temporary catches which are never used again and never evolve into their final forms"
>"Team Galactic opens a dimensional portal! No, this isn't used to bring in any additional new Pokemon or characters, why would we show off Volo or Laventon?"
>"We're never touching on this game again for the rest of this series btw."
I know this started releasing before PLA came out but they could've just... Not done that? God I hope Horizons does a proper New Lumiose City arc instead of whatever this is.
