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Look At What I Chained - Mark II

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Sudo said:
Lorak uses a sheet of cellophane to make his special Sandstorm glasses. Go-Goggles, anyone? :P

Edit: lol Lorak beat me to it!

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About your patch question, ShinyHunter.

4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4
4 3 2 2 2 2 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 1 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 Y 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 1 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 2 2 2 2 3 4
4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4
4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4

I usually notice that most of the time I use the Pokeradar, 4 patches usually fall into a 1,2,3, and 4 position, although I didn't notice if this happens every time. I should make a log about which patch formations I see.

About that ideal patch formation, it's fine if the 2 patch and the 4 patch are lined up in the same row; I don't recall breaking my chains when entering such a formation. It's imperative though that you don't go into a 4 patch that is touching a 3 patch because it never fails to break my freakin' chain! (lol)



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That Teddiursa is sweet, GengisTron! Those extras would make pretty sweet parents, too. And I know what you mean about all of the green shinies! (Seriously, Gamefreak, get some color sense!!)

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_zl, that Luxray is godly, but then I saw the Dusk Ball... :P

lol, it's still a great catch all the same! (I sometimes wonder why Gamefreak doesn't give us a chance to swap the types of pokeballs of our pokemon..)

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Aahhhhh, Diesel, you're reigniting my passion to chain for Eevees again!! I had stopped chaining for Buneary after I caught a shiny, Jolly one (will figure IVs soon). The fact that it only learns Switcheroo by breeding has made it worthless to me, lol. Then I started chaining Seedots for a shiny Shiftry, but I lost interest after like breaking chains a bajillion times in a row. I felt like I lost my touch, but maybe now I'll try again!!
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Meh the guy wanted it in a Dusk Ball so nothing I could do about it :naughty:
 
Hey Diesel, about the Edges breaking the chain. I was chaining my Absol, and at around 30 shinies, I was like, what the hell, I'll try it. So I started entering the patches on the edge that I was too worried to before. And...! No problem. I never broke my chain. I did like 5 or 6 on the edge too. I'll test more, and let you know how it goes.
 
If I understand why edgepatches break your chain, the chance is pretty low. All you need is at least one patch within the grass. So, let's say you have an infinite edge. The chance of the 1 coming in the grass is (5/8), the chance for the 2 is (9/16), for 3 it is (13/24) and for 4 (17/32).

If I am indeed correct and your chain only breaks when all patches are outside the grass, then the chance of your chain breaking on an infinite edge is:

(3/8)*(7/16)*(11/24)*(15/32) = ~0.03524780273438

Of course, most edges have lower chance because they're also near a corner, but anyway, chances are it most likely won't break.
 
Griffin said:
If I understand why edgepatches break your chain, the chance is pretty low. All you need is at least one patch within the grass. So, let's say you have an infinite edge. The chance of the 1 coming in the grass is (5/8), the chance for the 2 is (9/16), for 3 it is (13/24) and for 4 (17/32).

If I am indeed correct and your chain only breaks when all patches are outside the grass, then the chance of your chain breaking on an infinite edge is:

(3/8)*(7/16)*(11/24)*(15/32) = ~0.03524780273438

Of course, most edges have lower chance because they're also near a corner, but anyway, chances are it most likely won't break.
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You're talking about using the radar when on the edge of a patch, correct? Well, that's not exactly addressing the problem. The instance Diesel and Pink are referring to is when you use the radar in a grass field, a patch appears on one of the edges, you enter it, and then the chain is broken because you suddenly encounter another pokemon specimen.

I've broken a chain like this numerous times so I'd like to think the rate of failure is higher than .03%. :P

Or maybe I'm just that unlucky. ._.
 
Sudo said:
You're talking about using the radar when on the edge of a patch, correct? Well, that's not exactly addressing the problem. The instance Diesel and Pink are referring to is when you use the radar in a grass field, a patch appears on one of the edges, you enter it, and then the chain is broken because you suddenly encounter another pokemon specimen.

I've broken a chain like this numerous times so I'd like to think the rate of failure is higher than .03%. :P

Or maybe I'm just that unlucky. ._.
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I always thought that as soon as you entered a patch, the DS calculated the new set of patches. If none of them were visible, your chain would already break.

Also, it's about 3.5%. The chance I calculated had a maximum of 1, not of 100. Another thing is that edge patches are almost always not on an infinite edge, almost always some more of the 4s or 3s aren't present either.
 
Griffin said:
I always thought that as soon as you entered a patch, the DS calculated the new set of patches. If none of them were visible, your chain would already break.

Also, it's about 3.5%. The chance I calculated had a maximum of 1, not of 100. Another thing is that edge patches are almost always not on an infinite edge, almost always some more of the 4s or 3s aren't present either.
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As you'll find earlier in this thread, I did and explained my calculation.
 
When(ever) I update the chaining guide, I'll add my formula in for the percent chance of your chain breaking due to all the patches falling outside the grass. It's basically the same as Lorak's (which as far as I know is how it works), so thank you Lorak.

Speaking of which, if anyone wants to do some chaining guide-related tasks I can't to get around to, feel free to PM me, or better yet add me on AIM (I'm rarely on, so PM me too). Maybe someone will actually respond this time?
 
i have a question concerning chaining that I don't believe that i saw in your thread.

I was chaining cubone, and right now, my highest chain ever was a 27, by chaining shinx. so, while chaining cubone, i was trying to make it to the big 40. at first i could only get a little past 10 before i made a silly mistake and had it broken. Finally, i get the chain to 25, and it's going really well. I'm resetting the radar, because the patches i got weren't really tickling my fancy, and in the middle of resetting, i had to use a super repel. So i do so, and i move about 4 more steps to the left so i can finally reset my radar, and my chain just...disappears. for no reason. Can someone please explain this for me?
 
One possible explanation that I can think of is you went out of the radars' range, or in simpler terms, the shaking patches all went off your DS's screen.
 
You might have accidentally moved to where all of the patches you last activated are not visible on screen. Only possible explanation.

EDIT: Beaten~
 
yeahh, that might have been it. thanks guys.


i'm not really all that great at chaining. anything easy you guys would recommend? I play competitively too, so anything i could use would be helpful as well.
 
Dusk looks great on them. :p

My mankey chain of like, 27 got broken by a primeape. seriously, that shouldn't be able to happen. ;-;

Is primeape/mankey worth chaining without egg moves? And would brave banette be useful?
 
Lorak said:
As you'll find earlier in this thread, I did and explained my calculation.
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Ninja'd =P

You made a very small mistake there though (which isn't really relevant to your conclusion, but still), in the first two formations you showed, you said there was a 10/24 chance that the 3 patch would be outside the grass, while it is actually 11/24. In the first formation you showed, you said that the chance of the 4 being outside the grass was 17/32, while that is actually the chance it is in the grass. 15/32 is the chance it's outside the grass.
 
Griffin said:
Ninja'd =P

You made a very small mistake there though (which isn't really relevant to your conclusion, but still), in the first two formations you showed, you said there was a 10/24 chance that the 3 patch would be outside the grass, while it is actually 11/24. In the first formation you showed, you said that the chance of the 4 being outside the grass was 17/32, while that is actually the chance it is in the grass. 15/32 is the chance it's outside the grass.
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So I did, my mistake. Fixing time.
 
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