OK IT'S SPIFFYNALYSIS TIME
I hate Spiffy's day 1. As has been stated multiple times before, he was extremely nonconfrontational and provided only the most vanilla and obvious of opinions (such as "SL is bandwagoning for no reason" or "More Cowbell didn't answer my question". Another thing I don't like about his Day 1 is the fact that he calls no lynch a scummy play. Now, no lynching is bad. We've established this. Hell, we argued about it for pretty much a full day. But is it really all that scummy? Coming from an experienced player, yea, I would find a no lynch suspicious. However, we're talking about the NOC newbies here. They wouldn't know any better, and I can see why they would think it's a good play, considering d1 ends in NL in a large number of 2v1 games.
So we've established that no lynch = bad, but not scummy. Why, then, would Spiffy call it a scummy play, especially coming from the generally inexperienced ShinySkarmory and the first time NOCer (I think) LightWolf? It could be that he really does think that someone who votes for no lynch is more likely to be mafia, in which case he's rather misguided. However, it's also very feasible for Spiffy to be pushing some cheap suspicion upon other players and shift the discussion away from his teammates. Hell, maybe the mafia has no daychat and this is Spiffy telling his team "stahp, you're dumbasses". Either way, I really don't like this.
...at least that was my thinking before I really read deeply into his day 2 posts.
Frankly, I'm not so sure that Spiffy's scum anymore. The pressure got laid onto him on Day 2, and he responded with a series of excellent posts that (gasp!) actually show that Spiffy has the ability to be argumentative and pressure people himself, an ability that I sadly lack. Obviously I don't like the fact that he's chosen me to go after, but I can't say that his points don't have some validity to them.
That being said, it's time to rebuff some points.
Spiffy said:
In this post you say you think SL is mafia, but you don't really commit to this by also acknowledging that Metal Sonic could be mafia too. You provided an escape route to use when SL flipped village. "Oh I thought Metal Sonic was suspicious too so I was not the ring leader."
Also you suggest lynching Metal Sonic would be a good idea if SL turned up village without even stating your reasons why. Just because one side of a huge argument turns up village doesn't mean the other is mafia by default (see Galladiator and UncleSam).
This argument is rather flimsy. Am I not allowed to have multiple scumreads at one time? So what if I feel that both Shining Latios and Metal Sonic are scum? There's 3 scum in the game IIRC (could be wrong, sue me if so), so having multiple scumreads can be quite beneficial.
Also, MS and SL aren't on opposite sides of a huge argument. They barely mentioned each other. This is a completely different dynamic than the US-Galladiator shitstorm (which was funny as hell btw).
Spiffy said:
"Askaninjask could be town but he posts so little, but he is probably town."
Not what I said at all. My post was intended to say "Aska's posts are good and protown, but I wish he would be less inactive".
You also misinterpreted my post about Jalmont. It meant something along the lines of "Empoof makes a lot of joke posts [which is similar to myself sometimes], and I wish he could cut down on those, but when he's serious he has good insight."
These posts were not intended to cast suspicion on either of those players.
Spiffy said:
All of this combined with his extremely shitty latter-half-of-Day-1 and Day 2 (which he admits was crappy but doesn't even attempt to justify it...) makes me think that Walrein is a better target than zorbees.
School happened, LoL happened, insert excuses here, but the bottom line is that real life happenings caused me to have less time to pay attention to the game. Thank god the weekend is coming up so I can get myself out of this mess ~_~
And yeah, that one post was really shitty. I have no justification for that. I'm bad at this game.
So what do I think? Frankly, I'm not sure. His day 1 made me suspect that he was pretty damn mafia, but his great day 2 play is making me question myself (YES I KNOW YOU WERE JUST GOING ON ABOUT MY CONTRADICTIONS AND INDECISIVENESS SHUT UP). For now though, my scumread on him is weak enough to make me
unvote Spiffy.
I'm going to bed now, I'm tired. Tomorrow I'm going to look at zorbees and his relationship with Spiffy, and especially try to figure out if there's any meaning behind them going from arguing with each other to starting a bandwagon together.