well manamorphose is good enough already. this is just going to make storm+pyromaster's ascension absolutely bonkers in modern.
there's still rite of flame (?) and shit which is good enough really.
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there's still rite of flame (?) and shit which is good enough really.
Oh I was just thinking of standard, modern is already full of very fast combos, this card probably goes in some of them but it doesn't make any new decks.
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Well, idk about breaking it, but it has nice synergy with Charmbreaker Devils, I'd say. Especially since you can use Past to "get rid" of the spells you don't want to bring back (by casting them again).
And Geosurge is still legal, as well as the new Infernal Plunge, so that's nice. Not to mention Galvanoth.....
Really, it's like a new twist on replicating burns. Just bring stuff back and cast it ftw.
Now I really want to try that in Standard...
If you're going to use another color, probably blue. Casting Tezzeret's Gambit over and over would be nice, not to mention the Phyrexian Metamorph you can use to make another Rage Extractor. Gitaxian Probe is there too; it might not be the strongest effect, but being able to recast it so you can know your opponent's hand and draw (not to mention that its flashback could be 2 life, in case you're backed into a corner).
still making an edh deck but it seems to be going somewhere finally. i'm at 86 cards now without most lands, so help would be appreciated.
general: jaya ballard, task mage
creatures (35):
adamaro, first to desire
akki lavarunner
akki underminer
akroma, angel of fury
aladdin
anarchist
anger
avalanche riders
avatar of fury
barbarian riftcutter
barbed shocker
bloodfire colossus
chancellor of the forge
chandra's phoenix
chandra's spitfire
dragon mage
dragonmaster outcast
duplicant
fire servant
flametongue kavu
greater gargadon
hoarding dragon
kargan dragonlord
knollspine dragon
kozilek, butcher of truth
magma phoenix
painter's servant
pitchstone wall
reckless wurm
shard phoenix
skarrgan firebird
solemn simulacrum
squee, goblin nabob
stuffy doll
war elemental
artifacts (19):
basilisk collar
caged sun
extraplanar lens
fire diamond
gauntlet of might
gauntlet of power
gilded lotus
magebane armor
memory jar
mind's eye
planar portal
ruby medallion
skullclamp
sol ring
sword of feast and famine
sword of fire and ice
sword of light and shadow
thran dynamo
urza's blueprints
planeswalkers (3):
chandra ablaze
chandra, the firemind
koth of the hammer
other spells (26):
aggravated assault
amok
antagonism
blood moon
braid of fire
bulwark
furnace of rath
gratuitous violence
repercussion
artillerize
cinder cloud
fissure
reiterate
reverberate
wild ricochet
aftershock
apocalypse
banefire
breaking point
browbeat
burning inquiry
control of the court
gamble
mana geyser
wheel of fate
wheel of fortune
land (3):
kher keep
teetering peaks
valakut, the molten pinnacle
creatures (35):
adamaro, first to desire
akki lavarunner
akki underminer
akroma, angel of fury
aladdin
anarchist
anger
avalanche riders
avatar of fury
barbarian riftcutter
barbed shocker
bloodfire colossus
chancellor of the forge
chandra's phoenix
chandra's spitfire
dragon mage
dragonmaster outcast
duplicant
fire servant
flametongue kavu
greater gargadon
hoarding dragon
kargan dragonlord
knollspine dragon
kozilek, butcher of truth
magma phoenix
painter's servant
pitchstone wall
reckless wurm
shard phoenix
skarrgan firebird
solemn simulacrum
squee, goblin nabob
stuffy doll
war elemental
artifacts (19):
basilisk collar
caged sun
extraplanar lens
fire diamond
gauntlet of might
gauntlet of power
gilded lotus
magebane armor
memory jar
mind's eye
planar portal
ruby medallion
skullclamp
sol ring
sword of feast and famine
sword of fire and ice
sword of light and shadow
thran dynamo
urza's blueprints
planeswalkers (3):
chandra ablaze
chandra, the firemind
koth of the hammer
other spells (26):
aggravated assault
amok
antagonism
blood moon
braid of fire
bulwark
furnace of rath
gratuitous violence
repercussion
artillerize
cinder cloud
fissure
reiterate
reverberate
wild ricochet
aftershock
apocalypse
banefire
breaking point
browbeat
burning inquiry
control of the court
gamble
mana geyser
wheel of fate
wheel of fortune
land (3):
kher keep
teetering peaks
valakut, the molten pinnacle
Ban List Update
This only serves to reinforce how much WotC hates anything that's not aggro. I mean seriously, Ponder AND Preordain? Might as well of just said "combo is banned." And I'm still sort of perplexed about the whole Green Sun's Zenith thing. I thought toolboxing increased variety.
I'm talking about Modern of course.
This only serves to reinforce how much WotC hates anything that's not aggro. I mean seriously, Ponder AND Preordain? Might as well of just said "combo is banned." And I'm still sort of perplexed about the whole Green Sun's Zenith thing. I thought toolboxing increased variety.
I'm talking about Modern of course.
Because Misstep doesn't actually stop the combo decks where as Force of Will does? I think Misstep was definitely constraining the metagame (look at top 8s of recent events), but it was not impossible to innovate. Regardless, I think it will be interesting to see if the removal of Misstep will allow my favorite archetype to resurface: Counterbalance.
I like the bannings for Modern. I'll be frank; before the bannings, Modern was fairly shitty and only a narrow selection of decks could actually 'get there'. Now, combo was nerfed and 12post murdered. Several combo decks were left untouched completely, and some are only less consistent (Kiki/Pestermite/Splinter/Exarch is still viable). 12post already hurt the RPS of Aggo/Combo/Control, and it was rather non interactive beyond Through the Breach being able to be countered. The combo decks that are actually dead weren't healthy for the meta to begin with; Blazing Shoal was really hit or miss and required no skill entry level and storm was incredibly non-interactive.
People are worried about Aggro, but I'm not. New decks will emerge to fill the gap left and sideboards will be reworked to deal with the new top decks. If aggro seems to be the new 'thing', just expect more disruption geared for dealing with those kinds of decks.
It seems like it successfully shaken things up. No need for knee jerk reactions. We'll know for sure when the dust settles and the butthurt dies down.
EDH banlist changes were tame, and I agree with them. Hermit Druid could have gotten the boot, too, and Koko puffs unbanned, but there is no urgency for either of those things. Mental Misstep being banned in legacy seems like a positive thing.
People are worried about Aggro, but I'm not. New decks will emerge to fill the gap left and sideboards will be reworked to deal with the new top decks. If aggro seems to be the new 'thing', just expect more disruption geared for dealing with those kinds of decks.
It seems like it successfully shaken things up. No need for knee jerk reactions. We'll know for sure when the dust settles and the butthurt dies down.
EDH banlist changes were tame, and I agree with them. Hermit Druid could have gotten the boot, too, and Koko puffs unbanned, but there is no urgency for either of those things. Mental Misstep being banned in legacy seems like a positive thing.
if they're going to give storm / pyromaster's that much of a "fuck you" they may as well have just banned pyromaster's / grapeshot / that goblin storm card. blazing shoal is fair enough since they wanted there to be no t3 kills in modern; cloudpost is perhaps a tad excessive and maybe vesuva would've been a better card to ban; green sun's zenith really came out of nowhere, i mean wtf?
Try turn 2.
But Ponder, Preordain and Zenith were really unnecessary.
So, what'll be the new "it" draw cards?
Idk. Cerulean Whisps or Fleeting Distraction could work, I guess.
I think Cloudpost might have been unnecessary - the Pro Tour had Cloudpost decks with less than 50% against the field, and less than 50% against every other major deck in the format.
That said, if they ban Preordain and Ponder and Rite to cut combo out of the format, it's entirely possible that Cloudpost would beat everything-but-Zoo.
I don't think Green Zenith was a BAD ban, but I don't like when they ban for ubiquity, especially in a single colour[/c]. Yes, every green deck was (and should have been) playing 4 Green Sun's Zenith. But it wasn't so powerful that your deck HAD to run Green for it, which I think is quite a significant factor.
I think Mental Misstep's ban in Legacy was a mistake; the format wasn't becoming less diverse because of that card; it was because Legacy has been full of terrible decks for YEARS and now the format is getting official recognition, the quality of the deck is improving and the bad lists are being pushed out.
Before Misstep, the format was basically Control Jank and Combo Jank v Merfolk with Merfolk winning all the time. I think removing Misstep causes more problems than it fixes, to be honest. And again, it was a ban-for-ubiquity, not really a ban-for-format-ruining.
That said, if they ban Preordain and Ponder and Rite to cut combo out of the format, it's entirely possible that Cloudpost would beat everything-but-Zoo.
I don't think Green Zenith was a BAD ban, but I don't like when they ban for ubiquity, especially in a single colour[/c]. Yes, every green deck was (and should have been) playing 4 Green Sun's Zenith. But it wasn't so powerful that your deck HAD to run Green for it, which I think is quite a significant factor.
I think Mental Misstep's ban in Legacy was a mistake; the format wasn't becoming less diverse because of that card; it was because Legacy has been full of terrible decks for YEARS and now the format is getting official recognition, the quality of the deck is improving and the bad lists are being pushed out.
Before Misstep, the format was basically Control Jank and Combo Jank v Merfolk with Merfolk winning all the time. I think removing Misstep causes more problems than it fixes, to be honest. And again, it was a ban-for-ubiquity, not really a ban-for-format-ruining.
With the prerelease having been a thing, Cockatrice now supports Innistrad cards. Anyone trying anything new?
I've been trying to fiind a good way to abuse Tree of Redemption; only thing I've gotten so far is a Disciple of Gristlebrand/Tree of Redemption combo, and trying to abuse Morbid to make Tree saccing useful. Though anything that works well with that costs a fair amount of mana...(going from EDH to Standard isn't as fluid as I thought it'd be).
I've been trying to fiind a good way to abuse Tree of Redemption; only thing I've gotten so far is a Disciple of Gristlebrand/Tree of Redemption combo, and trying to abuse Morbid to make Tree saccing useful. Though anything that works well with that costs a fair amount of mana...(going from EDH to Standard isn't as fluid as I thought it'd be).