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Marijuana Legality/Morality Discussion Thread

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Poppycock said:
man, nwo where do you live?

'They get even more high, and soon enough, they're on the streets, beggin for money which they use to get more weed instead of food. Its fucking ridiculous.'

i've never even HEARD of this kinda shit being ANYWHERE
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It's the place I live that's fucked, or your notion of what is happening in the world is fucked? This happens really often, generally with poor people, but happens a lot!

And it's not only in my country...
 
Vader said:
Gonna go ahead and say you can get addicted pretty badly to marijuana, so keep this in mind even if my evidence is just anecdotal.
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I think it's is down to what "addiction" really means. People may become self-dependant on MJ but apart from withdrawal symptoms when they can't access it, they aren't forced to "fix" themselves so to speak; unlike drugs such as meth/coke.

Vader said:
Then I purchased a portable vaporizer, and when you combined this with the fact that I had a steady income and I was an irresponsible teenaged punk, you had a disaster. I started vaping every hour. I would wake up and vape before and after breakfast. I vaped in the bathroom at school, during lunch, on the bus, at picnics, in Spanish. I was having the time of my life, blowing $60 a week on weed. I kicked dph, but I had a new mistress.
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I so wish I could get my hands on a vaporizer but times are hard, and getting hooked up each day becomes a struggle.

Vader said:
I couldn't sleep. I wasn't used to falling asleep sober, ever. I'd had difficulties getting to sleep before I vaped all the time, but never this bad. I never wanted to eat. Nothing had the same flavors, nothing was as fun. I stopped playing videogames, lost interest in writing and schoolwork, and generally suffered from a lack of motivation. All I wanted was to spark up a fat joint, sit back, and enjoy life.
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This I can relate to. MJ's stimulating effects can affect the way you percieve every waking moment to the point where YOU THINK that the next drag will cure all. The more you want to believe this, chances are you will feel (under the influence of course) that you've done the right thing.

Vader said:
And, you see, that was the problem. Weed had ingrained itself into my life, into my routine. It wasn't that my life revolved around it, it was that it made everything else I did better. And that was a problem when I couldn't use it anymore.
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This epitomizes everything that is wrong with MJ. It's a reality check for most tokers who know that perhaps it would be better for them to put down the joint. I will admit I've shared this exact thought over and over again, and you just have fit it in when you can and enjoy the high you have.


Vader said:
Then I got a bubbler and started smoking every day. If someone tells you that smoking weed doesn't hurt your lungs, they're full of shit. I smoked from 5-"multiple times an hour" times a day. I had a bad smoker's cough and got a clogged up nose. Incidentally, this never happened to me when I stuck to vapor, so if you're gonna get addicted at least blow the $100 on a portable vape.
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Smoking damages lungs, period. With joints, arguably because they aren't rolled with filters they can be as harmful as a normal cigarrette. Also coughing helps circulate the flow and is known for getting you higher.

Vader said:
As for legality, I am decidedly pro-legalization. I don't care about what happens with crime rates or the economy from legalizing it, tbh. I want to be able to smoke without worrying about a fine. I also want it legal so that I don't run the risk of buying low-grade weed, or weed laced with some horrible drug that I have to deal with. I'm interested purely in my own safety.
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Only god knows why it is still illegal. http://www.illuminati-news.com/marijuana-conspiracy.htm

This is an interesting conspiracy surrounding why weed is how it is today.
 
Poppycock said:
man, nwo where do you live?

'They get even more high, and soon enough, they're on the streets, beggin for money which they use to get more weed instead of food. Its fucking ridiculous.'

i've never even HEARD of this kinda shit being ANYWHERE
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I've heard Fiji is like that with the indigenous population there.
 
I found this http://www.marijuana-addiction.net/marijuana-dangers.htm

Another one of the marijuana dangers is physical dependence on the drug. Many people try to stop over and over but are overwhelmed by anxiety, irritability and sleeping difficulties. Physical dependence is marked by withdrawal symptoms when the drug is removed. The marijuana dangers include the bodies' adaptation to an almost continuous presence of the drug in its system. The brain adapts to the pain reducing reaction to the drug and its other analgesic effects like inducing sleep. Those who have only tried smoking pot once or twice might be amazed that anybody could function on the drug at all. But those who have been smoking the drug for months and years have become accustom to its effects and can often hide the fact that they are high at all.
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So yeah - I can buy that you can become addicted to Marijuana to an extent. These observations seem plausible to me. But I still doubt there are people who suck dick in alleyways just to get money for a joint.
 
As far as I'm concerned I treat it like I treat smoking. I don't do it but if you do it that's fine, just don't do it in a way/place where it will impact those who don't enjoy inhaling the smoke.
 
you cant smoke a pot, low fire ceramics catch on fire at like 4000 degrees, well over the 325 that most bic lighters can produce, and there wouldnt even be that much smoke! i call shenanigans, you cannot smoke 'pots'
 
"The case of the 14 year-old boy arrested in Bali for allegedly buying $25 worth (6.9 grams)"

what
 
Balinese drug laws are insanely strict.

We had a really highly publicised case involving Schapelle Corby - she was arrested and sentenced to an epic long jail term (almost got death) for bringing pot into Bali in a boogie-board case, which she claimed was planted by someone working at the airport baggage handling.

Not long afterwards, Michelle Leslie, a model, got arrested for possession of ecstasy. She got out after about 6 months by claiming she converted to Islam, only to renounce it when she got back to Australia.
 
Hey guys I was searching the Bible for my feelings on this subject but then I remembered that if you are doing something typically harmless that lots of religions think actually helps you find spirituality no one gives a fuck about Jesus this is a thread about smoking some fucking pot.

I hate pot smokers with their glazed over bullshit and the terrible stench that comes with it. I also think that it should be legal and maybe we could use pot taxes to fund some way to deal with how the smell might affect the public; I would say glade plug ins but that would be pretty bitchy to maintain!

For anyone with concerns about how pot would affect accident rates or something, ignore the fact alcohol is obviously a far worse issue even. What is more important, to me, is that there are various ways to improve safety (for instance lowering car horsepower) that would be much more effective. Raising speed limits would actually improve safety too! Road safety is not the issue; rather, irrational resistance to giving in to something "seedy" and "immoral" is all that is going on here.
 
i remember seeing that graph on cracked or gawker or something about a year ago. they pointed out that it looks like a penis.

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the canadian approval rate is like 75% and has been high for a while, so our graph would probably look like a vagina.
 
a weed related issue that i thought i'd pose in this thread:

my friend recently began smoking pot. he started about a month ago. i'm a little worried about him -- he's an extremely ambitious/creative person and originally just began smoking in order to see and experience more of the world than he felt he was getting sober. (i don't have strong opinions about weed in general in regards to legalization or health issues. i'm mainly just personally scared of it due to the fact that most of my relatives who have taken it and have weird brains have urged me not to try it). he promised me he wouldn't do it to the point of neglecting the stuff he does every day. since then his usage has gradually risen to the point where he's getting blazed every day right after school etc. he's bought a bong, other accessories and i haven't had a conversation with him in recent memory with him not stoned.

to clarify: if he was doing it in more spaced out intervals i wouldn't worry. my main issue is that he has a really fucked up life and i'm worried that his use of weed is more of a coping mechanism than what he intended it to be (a chance to experience the world in more creative ways). forgive me if this isn't the proper thread for this matter
 
Actually, if you look at the graph, the top and bottom numbers don't necessarily add up to 100%, so there must have been a "don't really care" or "idk" option...
 
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