Project Monotype Core Laddering Challenge Season 2 [INDEX THREAD]

Example registration:
PS! Name: Namranan
Laddering Alts: CCS2No3 Harsh, CCS2Fa3 Words
HoF Rankings: none
Peak(s): none
W/L ratio: none
 

Shokkking

No man can walk out on his own story
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taken over from Illama and approved by Eien.
hosted by Namranan , co-hosted by Perish Song


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Monotype Core Laddering Challenge Season 2 Cycle 3
2 Cores, November 19 - December 3

Electric

Galvantula + Xurkitree
Tag : CCS2El3
Hall of Fame Rankings:

Platinum: 1600+
Gold: 1450+
Silver: 1325+
Bronze: 1250+
Galvantula - Galvantula has a unique niche on electric in the form of providing Sticky Webs. This allows you to run more offensive Pokemon and not have to worry as much about speed control. Pokemon like Tapu Koko can run Choice specs to take advantage of this as well. Galvantula also hits pretty hard on its own with electric terrain boosted thunder's, and also often runs energy ball and Hidden Power ice to help deal with Water-grounds and Dragons respectively. This coverage is appreciated by the team, and makes Galvantula a solid niche pokemon to use.
Xurkitree - Xurkitree on its debut was clamored about because of its absurdly high Special Attack Stat. While its speed leaves much to be desired, its raw power and sweep potential with Beast Boost allows it to effectively be a more niche option on Electric teams. It often runs a choice scarf or Psychium Z with Hypnosis to help with its speed problem and still take advantage of that incredibly high Special Attack. With Galvantula, Xurkitree doesn't need to run a choice scarf, so it opens up more options.



Ice

Piloswine + Rotom-Frost
Tag: CCS2Ic3
Hall of Fame Rankings:

Platinum: 1550+
Gold: 1425+
Silver: 1300+
Bronze: 1200+
Piloswine - Piloswine is a great pokemon on ice because of its amazing bulk with eviolite and ability to always set up rocks and be a soft check to some fire types. There isn't a whole lot to say about the Pokemon itself, but it allows you to run Balanced or Bulky Offense Ice teams that can take advantage of its ability to keep setting up rocks and check incoming sweepers.
Rotom-Frost - Rotom-Frost is a niche Scizor-check that also role compresses Hazard Removal. While it does check non-superpower variants of scizor thanks to its typing and bulk it can also help against other steel types like Ferrothorn. With Volt switch, Rotom-Frost can also be a good slow pivot that allows you to switch into walls and revenge killers easier, making it a great niche pokemon for Ice-type teams.


Note: This project is now lead by Namranan and cohosted by Perish Song. So now all questions and suggestions regarding to CLC should be directed towards us now and not Illama, the former leader.

To register to participate in a core challenge, you must reply to this forum with the proper information to be eligible! See the example post below for details. This also applies for submitting peaks (with that said please keep all of your information onto 1 post)! Otherwise, refer to the Index Thread for the official rules and info on this project. Please make sure to post replays of your Hall of Fame Rankings, failure to do so will result in your post being ignored.

In order to win this challenge, one player must obtain the highest ladder peak with the given core. In order to be eligible for winning the challenge you have to either post a replay of your peak (Highest elo reached) or take a screenshot of your accounts highest rank on ladder. The person with the highest rank at the end of the week is the winner of the challenge and will get posted in a new hall of fame in the Index thread along with the team they were using. If you win, please PM the team to Perishing Song or Namranan along with a brief description of the team and how you got the elo you got to. (Replays are much appreciated)

Remember to keep track of your Win/Loss ratio because the person with the best ratio out of 30 games can get a shoutout after the challenge has ended. To submit your Win/Loss ratio just take a screenshot of your record and post it in your registration. The team with the best record will be added to its own Hall of Fame.

Have Fun!​
 
Example registration:
PS! Name: Namranan
Laddering Alts: CCS2El3 Dank, CCS2Ic3 Soft
HoF Rankings: none
Peak(s): none
W/L ratio: none
 
PS! Name: ChrFal
Laddering Alts: CCS2E13 Chill, CCS2E13 Bolt

HoF Rankings:

Bronze
Silver
Peak: 1438
Win Loss ratio: 24 wins, 6 losses
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Bronze
Silver
Peak: 1339
W/L Ratio: 21:9
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My thoughts on the cores

Electric

Honestly, Xurkitree is pretty bad. While it can decimate stall, against offensive teams it really struggles due to its underwhelming Speed. If it had 103 base Speed (could lose 10 in each defence stat to compensate) it would be great, but alas it's just too slow and too frail. While Sticky Web does mitigate this to an extent, there are plenty of airborne Pokemon that are faster like Charizard Y, Aerodactyl, Landorus etc. Galvantula was underwhelming too, as on Bug its big USP is being able to set Sticky Web and beat most common Defoggers. But Electric already beats most of those Pokemon anyway.

Ice

I was pleasantly surprised by both mons. Piloswine is a great emergency check to the likes of Volcarona, Charziard X and Blacephalon, which normally have no trouble sweeping an Ice team. It's also an extremely consistent Stealth Rock setter, as it almost always got the Rocks up. Ice teams also beat most Defoggers, which is handy. Rotom-F was a great check to offensive Steel types like Scizor and Sand Rush Excadrill. I used a spread with enough Speed to outrun Adamant Mega Scizor, with max HP and the rest in Defence and the moves Volt Switch, Blizzard, Will-O-Wisp and Defog.[/HIDE]

Edit: I stupidly forgot to put the S in my alts, so had to ladder again. Kept running into Steel teams with Ice, which was incredibly frustrating. Fuck you Mega Scizor.
 
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Unfortunately there were no platinum ranks, which is unfortunate :(.

I will congratulate average fella for winning the Bug Challenge and also coveting the Win/Loss Ratio for Bug as well.

Tagging Eien to merge this with index thread. Thanks to all who participated!
 
PS! Name: average fella
Laddering Alts: ccs2ic3 xd
HoF Rankings: bronze https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7monotype-823873842
silver https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7monotype-823882541
gold https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7monotype-823887561 <---GAME OF THE CENTURY
platinum https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7monotype-824126903
Peak(s): http://prntscr.com/lm8l05
W/L ratio after 30 games: http://prntscr.com/lkzjmm a few mistakes and unwinnable matchups. bad wl. 25/5


these are both okay mons but rotom-f is not walrein. i dislike this fact.

i am finished so here's the team. frostom lives +2 bullet punch after sr. i am BIG on icicle spear, which is why it's on this team

mish (Rotom-Frost) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 76 Def / 136 SpA / 48 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Volt Switch
- Blizzard
- Trick

Piloswine @ Eviolite
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Toxic
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

CJK5H (Kyurem-Black) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Outrage
- Fusion Bolt
- Ice Beam
- Earth Power

ultramish (Ninetales-Alola) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Blizzard
- Moonblast
- Aurora Veil
- Freeze-Dry

Mamoswine @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Superpower

Avalugg @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Avalanche
- Recover
- Rapid Spin
- Roar
 
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Harpp

No rain, no flowers.
is a Pre-Contributor
PS! Name: Harpp
Laddering Alts:
CCS2El3 Tbolt, CCS2Ic3 Ice
HoF Rankings: none
Peak(s): none
W/L ratio: none
 
taken over from Illama and approved by Eien.
hosted by Namranan , co-hosted by Perish Song


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Monotype Core Laddering Challenge Season 2 Cycle 3
2 Cores, November 26 - December 10

Fire

Volcanion + Rotom-Heat
Tag : CCS2Fi3
Hall of Fame Rankings:

Platinum: 1550+
Gold: 1450+
Silver: 1325+
Bronze: 1225+
Volcanion - Volcanion is a niche pokemon to use on Fire because of its nifty water immunity and ability to take advantage of sun and its high special attack to act as an effective Azumarill check and Solar Beam user. This pokemon's movepool has quite a good amount of options in Earth power, Sludge Wave, Solar Beam, etc. While one may think that it should use its Water-STAB move in steam eruption more, it is unfortunately weakened by the sun that fire teams love to abuse, so it can find itself not using it sometimes, although it can still use it regardless. One may be curious as to why volcanion isn't used more on fire for these reasons, and unfrotunately it is because of its slow speed and ability to get worn down by Stealth Rocks relatively easily, not to mention that it gets forced out easily as well. Running volcanion also means not using volcarona or blacephelon, who are amazing special sweepers that can blast through balance teams better than volcanion can. Overall Volcanion is a niche pokemon to use on fire, but its niche is quite useful and can be very important to winning some key matches.
Rotom-Heat - Rotom-heat used to be used for primarily screens on fire teams. Thanks to USUM, it gained defog, which made it incredibly useful as both a hazard remover and a screen setter, while also being a decent pivot with volt switch. This pokemon has a lot of going for it and can immensely support its teammates thanks to screens and defog. It can also be run offensively or have an extremely niche trick set that allows it to cripple common checks like chansey. Overall, rotom-heat is always a great addition to have on a fire team, using it wisely can make fire seem hard to beat.



Fighting

Infernape + Breloom
Tag: CCS2Fg3
Hall of Fame Rankings:

Platinum: 1550+
Gold: 1425+
Silver: 1300+
Bronze: 1200+
Infernape - Infernape is unfortunately generally outclassed by Cobalion as an offnensive lead, and by Keldeo and Terrakion as speed control. However this doesn't stop infernape from having a few nifty niches. As a lead, it can use endeavor + mach punch to weaken opposing leads or defensive pokemon, and use taunt to prevent them from setting rocks, taunting back, or recovering health. This niche set can be very effective against some more offensive teams, however this is not the only thing infernape can do. Infernape still has a great speed tier and a nice STAB combination along with a decent movepool. This allows it to sometimes get away with running a choice scarf set when Keldeo is using a Z-move or if Kommo-o is not being used. These niches allow infernape to still have a solid presence in the fighting metagame.
Breloom - Breloom has fallen off from its former glory in recent times, but it is still a nasty Pokemon that can potentially be a win condition thanks to Spore and its technician boosted STAB moves in Bullet Seed and Mach Punch. It can also opt to use a substitute and Toxic Orb set to take advantage of more passive walls like celesteela and Toxapex, and threaten them just as bad. This also allows you to have a status absorber akin to the likes of gliscor. Breloom in general is still a solid choice for fighting teams, despite it having less viability as time has gone on.


Note: This project is now lead by Namranan and cohosted by Perish Song. So now all questions and suggestions regarding to CLC should be directed towards us now and not Illama, the former leader.

To register to participate in a core challenge, you must reply to this forum with the proper information to be eligible! See the example post below for details. This also applies for submitting peaks (with that said please keep all of your information onto 1 post)! Otherwise, refer to the Index Thread for the official rules and info on this project. Please make sure to post replays of your Hall of Fame Rankings, failure to do so will result in your post being ignored.

In order to win this challenge, one player must obtain the highest ladder peak with the given core. In order to be eligible for winning the challenge you have to either post a replay of your peak (Highest elo reached) or take a screenshot of your accounts highest rank on ladder. The person with the highest rank at the end of the week is the winner of the challenge and will get posted in a new hall of fame in the Index thread along with the team they were using. If you win, please PM the team to Perishing Song or Namranan along with a brief description of the team and how you got the elo you got to. (Replays are much appreciated)

Remember to keep track of your Win/Loss ratio because the person with the best ratio out of 30 games can get a shoutout after the challenge has ended. To submit your Win/Loss ratio just take a screenshot of your record and post it in your registration. The team with the best record will be added to its own Hall of Fame.

Have Fun!​
 
Example registration:
PS! Name: Namranan
Laddering Alts: CCS2Fi3 Master, CCS2Fg3 Crown
HoF Rankings: none
Peak(s): none
W/L ratio: none
 
PS! Name: ChrFal
Laddering Alts: CCS2Fi3 Blaze, CC2S2Fg3 Punch
HoF Rankings: None
Peak(s): 1407 (Fire). 1483 (Fighting)
W/L ratio: 23 W 7 L (Fire). 25 W 5 L (Fighting)





Thoughts on the cores:

Volcanion is actually pretty solid - great check to Water types, and it helps out somewhat in the Ground matchup too. Rotom-H, I didn't really like tbh - setting up the Screens was much harder than you might think, it's extremely passive, and Ground types stop it dead. Breloom is honestly pretty mediocre - it can wreck Water stall, which can be a hard matchup for Fighting, but other than that it doesn't do much. Wasn't too impressed with Infernape either - shame as it's really good on Fire. But it's just so frail and doesn't hit hard enough. I used it as a suicide lead, and it was OK, nothing spectacular.
 
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Shokkking

No man can walk out on his own story
is a Pre-Contributor
PS! Name: Shokkking
Laddering Alts: CCS2Fi3 Shokk
HoF Rankings:
Peak(s): none
W/L ratio:
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My opinion about fighting core: It isn't bad, but this type just sucks, you can't play one match without being totally countered by just ONE mon, no matter what you do, one Pokémon will always sweep your team and I can list one for each type. If you don't win the speed tie vs galvantula, you auto lose, there is no good Fighting Pokémon with a nice coverage for psychic, you also just lose to Lati@s. My peak is 1548, can't go higher than that, ladder is full of unexpected trash sets. The core is nice, unfort I can't say the same about the type.
 
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Example registration:
PS! Name: Splashbrutha
Laddering Alts: CCS2Fi3 Splash, CCS2Fg3 Splash
HoF Rankings: none
Peak(s): none
W/L ratio: none
 
Congrats to Shokkking for winning the W/L ratio for Normal

There were no challenge winners this cycle :(

I will now shoutout the platinum ranks:
Harpp (Normal)
Shokkking (Normal)

Thank you to all who participated! Tagging Eien to merge this with index
 
Congrats to average fella for winning the Ice Challenge and Ice Win/Loss ratio!

Average fella was also the only person to get a platinum rank for Ice so congrats to him again!

Thank you to all who participated, tagging Eien to merge this with index thread.
 
taken over from Illama and approved by Eien.
hosted by Namranan , co-hosted by Perish Song


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Monotype Core Laddering Challenge Season 2 Cycle 3
2 Cores, December 3 - December 17

Steel

Stakataka + Jirachi
Tag : CCS2St3
Hall of Fame Rankings:

Platinum: 1600+
Gold: 1450+
Silver: 1350+
Bronze: 1200+
Stakataka - Stakataka is a rather niche mon on Steel teams for its ability to become a deadly lategame sweeper with its Offensive Trick Room set. It doesn't even need to be on a full Trick Room team in order to pull this off either, as Trick does not last that long and other common Pokemon on Steel can still utilize it somewhat. Stakataka's typing and high defenses and bulk can sometimes allow it to find oppurtunites to set up Trick Room, While its Steel-Rock typing is poor defensively, offensively it gives Stakataka very good coverage against a large portion of the metagame, allowing it to hit almost every single Pokemon in the meta very hard.
Jirachi - Jirachi is a great Pokemon on Steel and helps it out with some of its most problematic Matchups in water, Using a special oriented set, Jirachi can use moves like Thunderbolt and Psychic to wear down the defensive core of water and pressure all of its offensive pokemon with ease. There are plenty of ways to acheive this with Jirachi, as it can use a Z-move, Substitute, or even Calm Mind to accomplish this task. This allows it to fit on almost any team and make sure that it does not lose to water and poison.



Ground

Diggersby + Mamoswine
Tag: CCS2Gd3
Hall of Fame Rankings:

Platinum: 1600+
Gold: 1450+
Silver: 1350+
Bronze: 1200+
Diggersby - A rather uncommon Pokemon on Ground. You may know this thing from how effective it is as a wallbreaker on Normal Teams. Well it can do the same here, to varying levels of success. Diggersby is run the same way it normally is run on normal with options like Swords Dance Z-move or Choice Band sets. Huge Power still makes Diggersby a huge threat to certain teams, so dealing with threats like Mantine will no longer be an issue thanks to its great wallbreaking power.
Mamoswine - A rather nifty mon to put on a Ground team. Its ability to take Ice attacks and dish out some of its own is immensely useful for the type as it generally lacks that sort of coverage. It allows Ground teams to deal with Flying teams better and also have a good Wallbreaker and priority abuser, sound familiar? Working with another Wallbreaker gives Mamoswine the option to run a more niche Scarf set to surprise most of its usual checks, while still providing the great utility in being able to take ice attacks.


Note: This project is now lead by Namranan and cohosted by Perish Song. So now all questions and suggestions regarding to CLC should be directed towards us now and not Illama, the former leader.

To register to participate in a core challenge, you must reply to this forum with the proper information to be eligible! See the example post below for details. This also applies for submitting peaks (with that said please keep all of your information onto 1 post)! Otherwise, refer to the Index Thread for the official rules and info on this project. Please make sure to post replays of your Hall of Fame Rankings, failure to do so will result in your post being ignored.

In order to win this challenge, one player must obtain the highest ladder peak with the given core. In order to be eligible for winning the challenge you have to either post a replay of your peak (Highest elo reached) or take a screenshot of your accounts highest rank on ladder. The person with the highest rank at the end of the week is the winner of the challenge and will get posted in a new hall of fame in the Index thread along with the team they were using. If you win, please PM the team to Perishing Song or Namranan along with a brief description of the team and how you got the elo you got to. (Replays are much appreciated)

Remember to keep track of your Win/Loss ratio because the person with the best ratio out of 30 games can get a shoutout after the challenge has ended. To submit your Win/Loss ratio just take a screenshot of your record and post it in your registration. The team with the best record will be added to its own Hall of Fame.

Have Fun!

**Announcement**

After this challenge concludes we will be going on hiatus to not only celebrate the holidays, but to also allow people who are in MWP to have a break and focus on that instead of this. We will return once playoffs for MWP start. Until then, have fun laddering!
 

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