Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Okay, I'm really in a bind here, and help would be GREATLY appreciated. I've RNGed for shiny eggs/IVs in SoulSilver using Pikatimer, so I have a bit of experience.

The problem is I'm trying to RNG my ID/SID in Platinum. I used OmegaDonut's spreadsheet on the first page to locate a group of spreads that I like (for reference it is group 3619. I pulled a PID off of one of the spreads in my group, popped it in Pandora's Box, and got myself a seed (4D0B2014 works for this post). Using Seed to Time, I picked 7/1/2010, 11:20:50, delay 8202.

Now, the issue I have is with using Pikatimer at this point. It takes me roughly 90 seconds from soft reset to the point where the screen with the TV allows me to hit A and set my ID. I calibrated a delay of roughly 6500, but what should I put into the seconds box on Pikatimer since it won't take a number higher than 60? I am most likely misunderstanding the way the seconds function works on the Timer, but am at a loss as to where I'm going wrong. In order, my inputs in Pikatimer at this point are:
Calibrated delay: 6500
Wanted delay: 8202
Calibrated Second: ?????
Wanted Second: 50
I'm going to show you what I use when I do a SID RNG:

Calibrated delay: 600 which is roughly the calibrated delay of a Platinum game that already has a SID/OT. I use it as a standard for all DPPt SID RNG.
Wanted delay: 8202 (whatever happens to be the delay of your target SID/OT)
Calibrated Second: depends on if you have an AR, a flash cart or just the game. AR 16 or 15, flash cart 20, just the game 13 or 14
Wanted Second: 50 (depends on your chosen wanted seconds)

I am getting at least one or two minutes in the minutes before target box, so I'm setting my DS clock at 11:18 or 11:19 depending on what I put into seconds and what it tells me.

Resulting seconds from the seeds it appears I'm hitting are all over the place.

Anyone know what I am foolishly screwing up here?
I set my DS clock minutes to the same time as the RNG time. By your first results, find a delay that's near your target delay and also near your target seconds. Make a record of it somewhere so you don't forget the delay and seconds of this adjacent. Make a record of any other adjacent that might have been as close. Test your chosen result by putting the adjacent delay into other delay in pikatimer. Do not adjust your DS minutes yet because a huge change in the delay will result in a change in seconds when you arrive in the game. It's better to wait until the second attempt before you adjust your DS minutes.

Try and get your target SID again. Check to see if you got a result closer to your target delay. If yes, use that result and now adjust your DS minutes up or down depending on how wrong the seconds were on your latest test. One minute change on the DS results in a one second change getting into the game, so adjust up or down accordingly.

Try to get your SID again. If you choose your adjacent results intelligently, you will get closer to your target delay. If you adjust your DS minutes intelligently, you will get onto your target seconds. If you choose a bad delay and get bad results, backtrack to an earlier result. Keep track of your total change in Pikatimer so you can back track more easily.
 
Does anyone know if there's a thread with information on using PokeRng? I still need to get a shiny Torchic with an electric hidden power. I currently have version 1.2, and whenever I search for shiny spreads the only message I get back is "...........Done!" and then it asks me to input the desired nature again. If someone could give me some tips on how to use this I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
 
Does anyone know if there's a thread with information on using PokeRng? I still need to get a shiny Torchic with an electric hidden power. I currently have version 1.2, and whenever I search for shiny spreads the only message I get back is "...........Done!" and then it asks me to input the desired nature again. If someone could give me some tips on how to use this I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
There should be a couple files in the folder where you have the PokeRNG program titled "Spreads." Open them to view the results of your search.
 
Right now I'm just trying to get a shiny Torchic (rash nature, mischievous characteristic, all 31's except attack) with hidden power electric. I was told to use Pokerng to determine it's hidden power.
I would search something like Rash 30+/30+/30+/30+/30+/31+ HP Electric 70 and see what shows up, and choose a spread from there (answer n when asked if you want to search for exact IVs, then enter those numbers as the minimums). If that doesn't work you may have to lower your IVs a bit, because not all IV combinations exist for every different nature.
 
I would search something like Rash 30+/30+/30+/30+/30+/31+ HP Electric 70 and see what shows up, and choose a spread from there (answer n when asked if you want to search for exact IVs, then enter those numbers as the minimums). If that doesn't work you may have to lower your IVs a bit, because not all IV combinations exist for every different nature.
I'll give that a try. Thanks.
 
These pokemon with the lower frames have over 2400 delays.

Just to help you, if you want them, here are two spreads with frames below 100. Both are hp ice 70. If you use a synch, you'll get them as lower than the method 1 frame.

PID: 0287f22d (NAIVE, ability 1) 31/30/30/31/31/31 (Seed: 4f070985 Method 1: 6, J (synch): 5, J (no synch): None, K (synch): None, K (no synch): None) HP ICE 70

PID: c7529eb4 (NAIVE, ability 0) 31/31/31/31/31/30 (Seed: d816044b Method 1: 46, J (synch): 1, J (no synch): 17, K (synch): 3, K (no synch): None) HP ICE 70
It's impossible for me to get my delays that high. Cause if I can't get to 799 delays, then I can't get to over 2400. =/
 
I'll give that a try. Thanks.
Yeah that search didn't return any results. I think it would be best to lower the hidden power BP to 68, and search 28+ with 31 speed.

Edit:
PID: 2640ee9a (RASH, ability 0) 31/29/31/30/31/31 (Seed: f4100ddf Method 1: 9, J (synch): 2, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 2, K (no synch): None) HP ELECTRIC 68

I used a search with max delay of 5000, so if you don't use higher delays you may want to search that again to find a seed with a delay better suited for you, but yeah that's the best rash hp electric spread.
 

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These pokemon with the lower frames have over 2400 delays.



It's impossible for me to get my delays that high. Cause if I can't get to 799 delays, then I can't get to over 2400. =/
ok so I found this on on seed 5C1102C6 frame 922 with a naive synchronizer (a Pokemon with the ability synchronize and a naive nature) at the front of your party. The delay is 700 but since you want a low delay you're gonna have to go for a high frame. GO ask in simple requests if you don't have a naive synchronizer.
 
ok so I found this on on seed 5C1102C6 frame 922 with a naive synchronizer (a Pokemon with the ability synchronize and a naive nature) at the front of your party. The delay is 700 but since you want a low delay you're gonna have to go for a high frame. GO ask in simple requests if you don't have a naive synchronizer.
Well... do you know other ways on how I can lower the delays?

And yes, I do have a synchronizer. I'm using it right now.
 
Well... do you know other ways on how I can lower the delays?

And yes, I do have a synchronizer. I'm using it right now.
Sometimes you just can't have a low delay AND a low frame. pick one or the other.

i would suggest pikatimer and a high delay
just play around with it, everyone is different. if you dont get it, catch heatran, check its IVs and found out what delay you did hit. then adjust pikatimer. its really not as hard as you are making it out to be.

you've been trying for 3 days and you haven't even selected a spread yet.
 
Sometimes you just can't have a low delay AND a low frame. pick one or the other.

i would suggest pikatimer and a high delay
just play around with it, everyone is different. if you dont get it, catch heatran, check its IVs and found out what delay you did hit. then adjust pikatimer. its really not as hard as you are making it out to be.

you've been trying for 3 days and you haven't even selected a spread yet.
Sigh..... Alright. I'll start doing it tomorrow morning.
 

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