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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Read the OP a little more carefully, but here's the CliffNotes version:

You use the journal to advance your frame, then try to collect the egg as quickly as possible so you limit the interference from the NPCs. That's what the frame calibration phase is for - to see what frame you get when you collect the egg as quickly as possible WITHOUT journal taps. Then you use journal taps to get the frame you want.

Try it out, and solve problems one at time. You don't have to try to figure it out all at once, that'll just give you a headache.
 
All method J spreads can be hit by method 1 (as they are method 1 frames at their root).

About half of the method 1 frames canNOT be hit by Method J (when there is no syncher).

A very small amount of method 1 frames canNOT be hit by J (with sycnher).
 
mingot said:
All method J spreads can be hit by method 1 (as they are method 1 frames at their root).

About half of the method 1 frames canNOT be hit by Method J (when there is no syncher).

A very small amount of method 1 frames canNOT be hit by J (with sycnher).
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Thanks, mingot.

BTW, it seems the trainer's name, rival's name and your ID/SID are generated AFTER the rival comes by your house. At least Pokésav didn't show any of them before that. I'll check if they are already determined before that or not.
 
MrSableye said:
This probably seems like a stupid question (and it probably is) but, I might as well ask.

For Method J, where is the output place where it shows me the coin flips? The only time I see it is under the breeding parts of RNG reporter.
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The coin flips you want to look at is the PID normal for it.
 
I again got invalid stats:
Roselia Adamant
lvl 48
often scatters things
hp 118
att 78
def 60
sp.atk 91
sp. def 82
spd 69

the rng rep said that all stats were invalid
 
Ive read over the OP manhy times and cant figure out how to RNG for legends still. If anyone could possibly be nice enough to explain how to RNG for legends it would be greatly appreciated.
 
Shinymilotic13 said:
Right ok, I don't really know what to do now, I've got this:

Shiny egg in day care,

Found spread:

D90D0261 2009 05 31 13:50:12 600 29 31 30 31 A B A H,T,H,T,H,H,H,H,H,T

I can hit delay 600 easily, but I don't really get what I have to do next. Do I set my date to 2009 05 31, 13:50:00? It takes me 12 seconds to reset. So then what do I do with all that journal flips and stuff?
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I would put the time to 13:48:00 syncronize with the comp orso.
Then start the game.
When you see the time on the comp hitting 13:50:00 you reset at that time.
Then u need to hit A at the continue screen at 13:50:12.
 
That you'll need to count te number of walks.

First find your starting frame.
for example your starting frame is 3.

Then you will need to count in total 26 steps and then talk to the old man. At the same time you will need delay 600 and the correct time you hit 13:50:12 (That is the (Ds-)time you'll need to hit A at)
 
Shinymilotic13 said:
I need frame 29 so what does that mean?
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Just to clarify you need to do some more testing now. What you need to do is save in front of the day-care man, then just start up your game at any time as long as you know the minute, mash A and grab the egg as fast as you can.

Then go and catch a pokemon, check its IVs and enter them to find your initial seed. Then using that seed generate a list of spreads using "Breeding DPPt" Then hatch your egg and check the IVs of the hatched pokemon.

Then locate those IVs on the list you generated. This tells you your frame.

Do this 3 or so times, then try and find a spread on that frame with the time finder tool, if there is nothing on your current frame add two to it and generate again, until you find a suitable spread.

You then change the date to your target date, which should make the journal pop up. Then go for that time, and if you need to go for a higher frame than the one you are locked into then you do journal flips to get up to that frame (one flip to a page with a pokemon caught or defeated is +2), then collect your egg and hope that you got the correct seed by either checking the IVs of the egg or catching a pokemon to check your seed and see how far off you were.


Luna Moon said:
That you'll need to count te number of walks.

First find your starting frame.
for example your starting frame is 3.

Then you will need to count in total 26 steps and then talk to the old man. At the same time you will need delay 600 and the correct time you hit 13:50:12 (That is the (Ds-)time you'll need to hit A at)
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You're confusing him/her =(. I assume you mean journal flips, or you have no idea. If you meant journal flips then your math is way off. Say your starting frame IS 3 and your target is 29, assuming you hit the correct seed you would have to flip to a page with a pokemon caught/defeated, whether it be back or forward 13 times. 13x2= 26 +3 (your initial frame) = 29, your target frame.
 
Ok, I'm having problems with the RNG reporter.

1. It has slowed my computer down by a whole lot. Why would this happen?

2. When I tried to uninstall it, I couldn't find the program anywhere so I could uninstall it, where do I find it?
 
FearthePika said:
Ok, I'm having problems with the RNG reporter.

1. It has slowed my computer down by a whole lot. Why would this happen?

2. When I tried to uninstall it, I couldn't find the program anywhere so I could uninstall it, where do I find it?
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If your computer sucks, RNG reporter may run more slowly, especially if searching for frames for legends. This is a problem on my laptop. Just be patient and it will finish. What are your computer specs?

2. RNGreporter doesn't need to be installed. Just delete the folder it's in.
 
I'm having the same problem as before, the Initial Seed Finder can't find my spread. But this time there's a huge difference.

I'm using the spreads directly for RNG Rep. itself.
It gave me a date of (dd/mm/yy) 1/6/2009 at 07:34:00.
The spread is 29 / 29 / 29 / 21 / 30 / 31 Impish.

I enter these, and they aren't correct. My date or time isn't right according to the Seed Finder, though RNG Rep. itself gave it to me.
 
bearsfan092 said:
If your computer sucks, RNG reporter may run more slowly, especially if searching for frames for legends. This is a problem on my laptop. Just be patient and it will finish. What are your computer specs?

2. RNGreporter doesn't need to be installed. Just delete the folder it's in.
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It's not the RNG reporter that's slow, it's my computer that's slower.
 
It may be that your computer is just old, slow, has little memory, or any combination. Or, it could be that something mingot put in simply doesn't work well on your computer. What version of RNGReporter do you have, and did you have this problem with any earlier versions?

edit: Is your computer slow while RNGReporter is up but not doing anything, up and running, or always whether RNGR is active or not?
 
Bas de Jong said:
I again got invalid stats:
Roselia Adamant
lvl 48
often scatters things
hp 118
att 78
def 60
sp.atk 91
sp. def 82
spd 69

the rng rep said that all stats were invalid
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Ah, thanks :)

It looks like I mixed up "often scatters things" and "scatters things often".

I'll have an update later tonight or tomorrow to correct it. Let me know if you find any others that don't calculate correctly.

FearthePika said:
Ok, I'm having problems with the RNG reporter.

1. It has slowed my computer down by a whole lot. Why would this happen?

2. When I tried to uninstall it, I couldn't find the program anywhere so I could uninstall it, where do I find it?
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You don't need to uninstall it, just delete the files. There are three of them in total:

rngreporter.exe
rngreporter.exe.config
readme.txt

When they are gone the all traces of the program are gone.

FearthePika said:
It's not the RNG reporter that's slow, it's my computer that's slower.
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That's not possible. Nothing is installed or runs in the background. When RNG Reporter runs it runs. When it does not, it is not.
 
Haile Selassie said:
I'm having the same problem as before, the Initial Seed Finder can't find my spread. But this time there's a huge difference.

I'm using the spreads directly for RNG Rep. itself.
It gave me a date of (dd/mm/yy) 1/6/2009 at 07:34:00.
The spread is 29 / 29 / 29 / 21 / 30 / 31 Impish.

I enter these, and they aren't correct. My date or time isn't right according to the Seed Finder, though RNG Rep. itself gave it to me.
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Is the seed of my spread, my initial seed? If that's the case, this doesn't matter that much except that it's just very strange I can't find it with this.


Other question: Is the North of Route 210 the same map as the South of Route 210? Because the wild pokémon are different.
And no, I can't test it. The level of those pokémon is far to low to check their IVs without AR and stuff.
 
The initial seed finder probably does not go back far enough to find that monster.

No idea what you are asking about with route 210 north/south.
 
I don't understand what you mean with "go back far enough". You mean my frame is too high? And the spread seed indeed seems to be the same as the initial seed, but the spread seed has an extra zero infront of it for some reasen, though that doesn't affect it.


About route 210.
Serebii's "Pokéarth" shows a north and southside of route 210. The pokémon encountered in the north differ from those in the south. So I was wondering, are they still the same map and are their NPC's the same? But I can't test it and hoped someone knew the answer.
 
mingot said:
You don't need to uninstall it, just delete the files. There are three of them in total:

rngreporter.exe
rngreporter.exe.config
readme.txt

When they are gone the all traces of the program are gone.

That's not possible. Nothing is installed or runs in the background. When RNG Reporter runs it runs. When it does not, it is not.
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Thanks, but it just seemed like it did make it slow, it only got slower after I installed it, but obviously it isn't the RNG reporter.
 
More messing around with getting "Defeated" entries in the journal suggests more strongly that you need to defeat five wild Pokemon.

@mingot: Do you think adding the Hidden Power column to the Wonder Card IVs section of RNG Reporter would be worthwhile?
 
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