Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

To be honest neither of you could probably do it successfully without asking questions so please stop posting questions not related to research, not asking questions on how to do something, or not replying to help someone.
 
I can do all the other stuff in the OP, so why shouldn't I be able to do something a little more difficult?
It's like a big secret to talk of PokéRadar stuff, apparently. Oh well, I guess I'll experiment.
If there was some sort of a foundation built, I just wanted to know what it was so I could make better attempts, is all.

*shrug*

EDIT:
It's cool, I should probably get better at the normal stuff for now anyway.
I'd like to be able to hit my delay like once every 3 or 4 times instead of ~10-15 times.
 
Can anyone verify if the Encounter Slots listed for Wayward Cave (Main) are correct? http://www.eggmove.com/encounterdiamond.htm


I'm fairly certain they're all wrong as I've caught 3 different pokemon from various spreads, non of which match the encounter slots that comes listed with RNG Reporter. The IVs are all correct.

Make that 4 pokemon with the correct spread IVs but the wrong Encounter Slot.

Bump, I'll test out a few more later, but I'm fairly certain at this point the chart is wrong...
 
I'm having a big problem could someone please shed some light on my situtation.
Ok, basically ive RNG abused many pokes previuosly with very little problem but lately im having the same reoccuring problem which is driving me mad!
Currently I am soft resetting on a Shiny Gastly egg, i have my calibration times sorted this is not the problem, i have a target frame which suits the supposed frame im saved on but heres the problem;
Everytime i work out my saved frame before recieving the egg from the old man its been very consistant and 5-10 tests all end up being 85%ish the same frame i figure the varied 15ish of frames are caused by the NPC's, next i proceed to soft reset for my target frame. Although everytime i soft reset and do the correct amount of journal flips (current frame-target frame/2 correct????) the frame i land on always decreases by 1. So reading through previous pages..... and relating similar problems to this before asking for advice, i re-saved and considered it may be just random NPC's off screen effecting this, although after many attempts at this, it still resulted in the target frame always decreasing by 1. Next, i decided to find a target frame on that decreased frame i seemed to be currently hitting proceeding to find a spread, soft reset and again the frame decreases by 1, i have tried over and over with this problem and keep recieving the same results could someone please advise me on what i may be doing wrong or how i can correct this problem.
Thanks in advance for any response.
 
-Poke Radar Abuse-

The pokeradar advances the RNG based on the number of patches that show up.

4 Patches = 10
3 Patches = 8
2 Patches = 6
1 Patch = 4

The pokemon for the patch is based off the same as the Sweet scent encounter slot. The pokemon radar slot for the encounter slots does not always get the radar pokemon. As of right now, I am unsure what determines if it will be the radar pokemon or not, but the best odds to get your target radar pokemon and the right frame, is to catch one first, getting you a chain of one.

- How to Abuse -

Getting prepared
- Choose a frame that is high. Peferably over 700.
- Bring a Syncher and a Flyer only! Or add 1 extra pokemon only.
- Go to the route your pokemon is on.
- Battle every moving NPC that you can that affects the RNG.
- Use any repel, the higher the better.
- Save in the middle of a big patch. Set the pokeradar so you don't have to open the menu every time.

Reset your game until you hit your seed, verifing by coin flips, or in weather by catching a pokemon.

What you want to do is pokeradar, and go into a patch that is sparkling. For reference in this guide:
shiny patch = shiny
sparkling patch = radar pokemon
plain patch = no radar pokemon

You want to try catching your radar pokemon and thus starting a chain of one. Keep radaring and walk into the sparkling patches until you battle the radar pokemon. Any other pokemon run from. If it is your target pokemon, catch it. Notice where the patches are and find the sparkling patch. That is the patch you will walk in to. Note the amount of steps it takes to get there and all the advancement that will occur. Walking forward is one advancement and turning is one advancement. In some cases, forward steps randomly advance by 2. I suggest doing a turn+walk, which is 2 advancements, and seems not to occur the random additional advancement for walking forward. Calculate the amount of advancements for you to walk to that patch. This will be used to calculate the journal flips required later on.

If there is no sparkling patch, try radaring again and you must capture the radar pokemon to find out what frame you are on.

Check the frame of the caught pokemon, and find out the actual frame. This will be coloumn two. Now you have everything to do the calculations for the journal flips.

~Calculations for journal flip

Target frame - Actual frame - Steps advancement - Radar advancement - 6

If this number is odd, you have to do an extra turn while walking to your patch. If even, divide by 2 for the amount of journal flips.

The -6 is from 5 for battling and 1 for the monster frame.

After performing your journal flips, walk to the patch and hopefully it should be your target pokemon with the target frame. There are many things that can go wrong. You can get the random advancement. You can reach the 128 step counter and thus advance the steps counter. It may be better to bring 3 pokes, because once you catch the radar pokemon, that would be 4 advancements from the step counter and thus can still hit your target spread.


Sorry for the long wait. Sorry for giving you two people a rough time, a joke for me and to keep order in the thread while mingot is away :) Do not post here any questions unless there is a noticable gap in the instructions. If you want any help, going on IRC is easier to contact me.
 
I want to catch Giratina in Turnback Cave because it's easier to encounter it's shiny form there.

My question is: Are his values permanent when you encounter him in Distortion World?
 
Hmm, I'm getting some really bizarre results here with my coin flips. I'm not missing my seconds (as far as I can tell), yet I'm not getting matching coin flip results between 610 and 650, which is a huge range, and one that I'm typically right in the middle of. I'm landed inside that range twice out of like 10 resets. Could there be anything affecting this that I don't know about?
 
Hmm, I'm getting some really bizarre results here with my coin flips. I'm not missing my seconds (as far as I can tell), yet I'm not getting matching coin flip results between 610 and 650, which is a huge range, and one that I'm typically right in the middle of. I'm landed inside that range twice out of like 10 resets. Could there be anything affecting this that I don't know about?


Catch a pokemon and find the initial seed. This will tell you how off you were from your target seed. If you are in any environmental location where there is weather, it will mess up your flips.
 
if i have no roamers do I always start at frame 0? The frame i'm trying to get is frame 1. The coin flips match but then i rare candy up and IV check and none of the 3 seeds that having matching 10 coin flips have matching IV's to the guy i have. So i can't figure where i'm going wrong.

Any advice?
 
if i have no roamers do I always start at frame 0? The frame i'm trying to get is frame 1. The coin flips match but then i rare candy up and IV check and none of the 3 seeds that having matching 10 coin flips have matching IV's to the guy i have. So i can't figure where i'm going wrong.

Any advice?

You start on frame 1, so if you Sweet scent you can only catch frame 2. Next time try finding the seed, generating the list, then finding out what frame you got yourself.
 
*pats LF on the back* No hard feelings :D
Now I'm gonna be trying for the rest of the night to get a Luxury Ball'd Shiny Calm good stats Togekiss XD
Thanks a lot for posting that! I will go forth and (hopefully) conquer, but I'm gonna need some fried rice, first.

RNG Abuse! AWAY!!!!
 
You start on frame 1, so if you Sweet scent you can only catch frame 2. Next time try finding the seed, generating the list, then finding out what frame you got yourself.


So I guess I'm sounding stupid, but this is my second attempt at this so some things I'm pretty clueless on. Thanks for helping anyway. So you mentioned sweet scent, but I'm past the point of that. I'm standing at the day care right beside the dude with the egg. I know the seed i want, and it is at frame 1. so i keep doing the SR thing until i got the 10 coin flips that match but the pokes IV's don't match any on the list of "generate adjacent results".

So either i am way off, or i'm donig something completely wrong. What does sweet scent have to do with anything at this point?
 
So I guess I'm sounding stupid, but this is my second attempt at this so some things I'm pretty clueless on. Thanks for helping anyway. So you mentioned sweet scent, but I'm past the point of that. I'm standing at the day care right beside the dude with the egg. I know the seed i want, and it is at frame 1. so i keep doing the SR thing until i got the 10 coin flips that match but the pokes IV's don't match any on the list of "generate adjacent results".

So either i am way off, or i'm donig something completely wrong. What does sweet scent have to do with anything at this point?


Mention you are doing eggs next time. You start on frame one, but just because you get the egg as fast as possible doesn't mean it comes up on frame 1. The NPCs advance it. You have to do the egg calibration phase to find out what frame your egg is on.
 
Can anyone verify if the Encounter Slots listed for Wayward Cave (Main) are correct? http://www.eggmove.com/encounterdiamond.htm


I'm fairly certain they're all wrong as I've caught 3 different pokemon from various spreads, non of which match the encounter slots that comes listed with RNG Reporter. The IVs are all correct.

Make that 4 pokemon with the correct spread IVs but the wrong Encounter Slot.

Bump and make that 5 different spreads. Who created this Encounter Slot chart? I can help in changing it to the correct slots whoever it is....just pm me.
 
I did :P (Well, they are from the rom dumps from the actual games)

What location? What method of capture?

Oh, interesting. It's the Wayward Cave (Main), using Method J. I've had no problems anywhere else so far. And it's odd that the ROM might be wrong.

I don't remember all the trials exactly but I do remember that the cave itself, for whatever reason, always advances the frame by 2. On three separate occasions, I hit my seed and sweet scented, sometimes immediately, other times waiting around 1 minute.

I expected to land on frame 3 (1 roamer), but I have landed on frame 5. Furthermore, the pokemon I caught all three times were Bronzors, when they should have been Zubats. The nature and IVs all match up. I then tried a few more times with different spreads and different frames, and the IVs all workout but the Encounter Slot itself was wrong on 5 separate occasions.

Odd, well for one thing, I'm fairly certain slot 3 is Bronzor and not Zubat at this point haha. I'd have to do the rest manually.
 
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