Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

[stingray_spin]

Thanks for the reply, Mingot.

When you're trying to hatch a shiny pokemon, and you're at step 3 (where you need to catch a >=lv50 wild pokemon), does it matter if the RNG advances whilst you are trying to catch it (eg. by using sweet scent, NPC moving, taking 128 steps, entering battles, etc.)?

 

[KingDustero]

The reseting time is right. To get it to the delay you want, you change the year. you want 628 instead of 634, so you increase the year by 6 to 2015. put this in the year part to confirm it. The journal doesn't advance when it opens up unless it has a caught pokemon on it. you need a total of 15, not 14.

At the bottom of the first page is says ferrow was caught (DAY), so would it count as two RNG advances when I first open it up? Also the next page says Golbat was defeated on it. Both also have other things on them. Anyways do I basically go back an forth between those pages until I've done 14 flips? Also should I check if I got everything right by doing the coin flips or can I just do it by putting in Giratina's stats after I capture it?

@ above post.

I've hatched 20+ shinies with the RNG. I just save at 226 right of the survival area. The grass right there. Pretty much always has a lv50+ pokemon. You can easily catch one there and then fly to Solceon to put the two parents in the daycare.

 

[LightningFusion]

At the bottom of the first page is says ferrow was caught (DAY), so would it count as two RNG advances when I first open it up? Also the next page says Golbat was defeated on it. Both also have other things on them. Anyways do I basically go back an forth between those pages until I've done 14 flips?

Yes so you need to see it 15 times total.

 

[stingray_spin]

Thanks for that, KingDustero. I'm going to Route 226 as we speak. But if the pokemon is not level 50 (so I have to re-enter a battle), or if a NPC moves, or if I use sweet scent (basically, if the RNG advances *at all*), then do I have to start from the beginning again?

Also, I'm getting a lot of level 47-49 pokemon on that route. Can I use these to find the initial seed?

 

[KingDustero]

Yes so you need to see it 15 times total.

The other page says Golbat was defeated(EVENING). Does that count too? So each page would advance the RNG by 2?

There is an NPC that is on the mountain next to the grass, but I don't believe it effects it. I just save in front of grass. Load it up, capture a pokemon, put all of the data in and then do the right amount of double taps and coin flips. Also make sure you're on app 5, the one before the happiness checker.

Also only ratatta and spearrow are below 50. They don't appear that often, but if they do I just SR and change the time I hit continue if the minute changes.

 

[LightningFusion]

The other page says Golbat was defeated(EVENING). Does that count too? So each page would advance the RNG by 2?

Yes, that advances by 2 also.

 

[KingDustero]

Yes, that advances by 2 also.

Ok I think I get it. So when I battle Giratina and it's shiny then it should also have the IVs that the RNG Reporter lists?

Also when I increaes the year by 6 do I change it on the DS too?

 

[LightningFusion]

Ok I think I get it. So when I battle Giratina and it's shiny then it should also have the IVs that the RNG Reporter lists?

Also when I increaes the year by 6 do I change it on the DS too?

Yes and yes.

 

[KingDustero]

Yes and yes.

Thanks for all of your help today. I'm going to do it now.

 

[NspKiNG]

Just to verify im doing this right.

my Frame is 824 and im trying to catch Giratina in the torn world (12)
so its 824-12= 812 now the journal flips are to 2 per flip so its 812/2= 406 flips?

 

[LightningFusion]

Just to verify im doing this right.

my Frame is 824 and im trying to catch Giratina in the torn world (12)
so its 824-12= 812 now the journal flips are to 2 per flip so its 812/2= 406 flips?

Yes that is correct.

 

[KingDustero]

Ok I have yet another question. If I get a shiny egg by doing the tapping method. Can I then save the game and use the other method having to do with delay to get the IVs I want?

 

[bearsfan092]

Ok I have yet another question. If I get a shiny egg by doing the tapping method. Can I then save the game and use the other method having to do with delay to get the IVs I want?

Absolutely. These processes are often done together to get th numerous flawless shinies you see around wifi

 

[KingDustero]

Absolutely. These processes are often done together to get th numerous flawless shinies you see around wifi

Ok thanks! What is the best way to figure out IVs after hatching a pokemon?

 

[COKTAL]

What I did before I got my AR was use around 4 or so rare candies on the pokemon, and put all the info for levels 1-5 into Metal Kids IV checker. Then I used whatever it gave me and put it into the restrictions on the main page (where you select the IVs, method, put your IDs, etc). Then, if the only frame near reasonable (15< unless needed over) shows, then you know you either got it, or went way over with the frames.

 

[LightningFusion]

If you're trying to get a certain egg, either you can use the adjacent spreads list or go catch a pokemon and get the seed, then generate the breeding list and find out which egg frame it is.

 

[OT AUTUMN]

Has anyone had crazy times with the frames and delays? I've got a lonely shiny riolu just waiting to be hatched, but when I try and abuse the iv's, the frames and delays always flip flop on me! I've tried finding a save with less erratic frames, but it just when I think I have something consistent it switches (a lot of the time from even to odd but sometimes I can't even find a proper frame at all)! I've also tried to manipulate it by inserting and taking out gba pokemon games in all sorts of combinations, but it always seems to do it's own thing regardless. This is not the first time I've IV abused something I had sucessfully hatched a bagon with the stats I wanted just a few days ago, but this riolu egg makes me want to make an omelette....

 

[NspKiNG]

Okay so i hit my seconds and my delay, but i think i might have screwed up on the flips. This is how my journal looks like.
1st page said i started in the distortion world
2nd page has not fought or caught pokemon
3rd say i started from Eterna city
4th Says i defeated a Snover (Late Night)
5th Bibarel was caught (Late Night)

i flip page 4 and 5 back in forth 406 times but ended up with something else can some explain where i went wrong plz?
Does the 1st time i flip on to page 4 count?

NEVERMIND i see what i did wrong!

 

[mingot]

Has anyone had crazy times with the frames and delays? I've got a lonely shiny riolu just waiting to be hatched, but when I try and abuse the iv's, the frames and delays always flip flop on me! I've tried finding a save with less erratic frames, but it just when I think I have something consistent it switches (a lot of the time from even to odd but sometimes I can't even find a proper frame at all)! I've also tried to manipulate it by inserting and taking out gba pokemon games in all sorts of combinations, but it always seems to do it's own thing regardless. This is not the first time I've IV abused something I had sucessfully hatched a bagon with the stats I wanted just a few days ago, but this riolu egg makes me want to make an omelette....

Find a new time/spread.

Okay so i hit my seconds and my delay, but i think i might have screwed up on the flips. This is how my journal looks like.
1st page said i started in the distortion world
2nd page has not fought or caught pokemon
3rd say i started from Eterna city
4th Says i defeated a Snover (Late Night)
5th Bibarel was caught (Late Night)

i flip page 4 and 5 back in forth 406 times but ended up with something else can some explain where i went wrong plz?
Does the 1st time i flip on to page 4 count?

Any time you read that a pokemon has been caught or captured the RNG has been advanced by 2. Does not matter if it is the first or last page. Does not matter if the journal automatically popped up or if you went to the key items bag and opened it. Any time you read that a pokemon has been caught or captured the rng has been advanced by 2. This includes the first time you flip to a page that has caught or captured, the last time, and all of the times in between.

 

[Chaos669]

That journal question's asked way too many times (guilty), even though it's very clearly explained in the OP :S. Oh well. Any progress with the encounter tables for Platinum? I've read that there's a method to determine that on your own though, that's why I was wondering if it's still being worked on.

 

[LightningFusion]

That journal question's asked way too many times (guilty), even though it's very clearly explained in the OP :S. Oh well. Any progress with the encounter tables for Platinum? I've read that there's a method to determine that on your own though, that's why I was wondering if it's still being worked on.

Unless someone gets the part of the game that has the table, the best way is to test it yourself.

 

[NspKiNG]

Find a new time/spread.



Any time you read that a pokemon has been caught or captured the RNG has been advanced by 2. Does not matter if it is the first or last page. Does not matter if the journal automatically popped up or if you went to the key items bag and opened it. Any time you read that a pokemon has been caught or captured the rng has been advanced by 2. This includes the first time you flip to a page that has caught or captured, the last time, and all of the times in between.

Yeah i figure it out, but that wasnt the problem for it was that i had choose method 1 spreed on Giratina

 

[KingDustero]

I have a question that probably can't be answered yet, but I'm going to ask it anyways. Will the RNG work with Pokemon Heargold and Soulsilver? Also since the shiny Gyrados will still be in the game will it most likely count as a shiny to find the SID?

Again I'm not expecting someone to know this, but I'm asking.:P

 

[Chaos669]

Chances are it may have the same RNG system as Gold and Silver did - but it may not. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I'm pretty confident that Smogon's Code Junkies (geniuses) will figure it out.

 

[NspKiNG]

Most likely it will, but we won't know for sure till the Jap game gets out so we can all start trying to crack it.