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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

I'm not finding the initial seed by IVs, I'm finding them by stats.

Are you sure it's not the time you hit the continue button?
 
I found a spread I want, but it's at frame 44549! I'm assuming there's no better way than the journal flips to advance the RNG for something that high?
 
I'm not finding the initial seed by IVs, I'm finding them by stats.

Are you sure it's not the time you hit the continue button?

The program still converts those stats into IVs in order to find the seed, so the stats of higher level pokemon will in this case render more accurate results. I haven't used the Find By Stats function but I'm pretty sure that's the case (anyone can feel free to correct me).

Use the minute you hit Continue.

I found a spread I want, but it's at frame 44549! I'm assuming there's no better way than the journal flips to advance the RNG for something that high?

That's pretty much your only option. Good luck man, don't turn crazy trying to hit that!
 
Hi, I'm quite new to abusing the RNG and as I was reading through the first page I noticed the phrase "begin your cycle of soft resetting" numerous times. Does this simply mean to reset until you've hit your target time or does it mean something else entirely? Thanks.
 
You find out your target.

Set your DS to a minute behind the target.

Soft reset (press L+R+START+SELECT) when the DS exactly hits the minute of your target.

Mash A until you collect your egg, or start journal flips, whatever you plan on doing.

That's the whole cycle described in the first post, it really doesn't get simpler than that unless you're asking something else.
 
What do you mean resetting when your DS ia at :00??
He means that if you were to synchronize your DS clock with another clock, when the minute on the other clock changes (e.g. from 1:22 to 1:23 exactly) you SR, so that the time is xx:xx:00 when you reset your game
 
Can someone please tell me if I've successfully completed the calibration phase of PRNG?

What I've done is the following:

1. Synchronized my DS's clock to an external clock with a seconds hand showing.
2. Saved in a little north of the Resort Area (where lv 48-50) Illumise, Roselia, etc. normally appear)
3. Waited right at the main menu of Pokemon Platinum (where it shows the continue, mystery gift [if you have it] and the other stuff) until a minute turns to another (such as 11:23:00 AM to 11:24:00) and as soon as the new minute begins (with :00 seconds) pressed the 'a' button
4. Then I waited until 1 full minute has passed (such as 11:25:00 to 11:26:00) and as soon as the new minute begins I soft resetted
5. Then I begin to rapidly press the 'a' button until I get into the 'game world'
6. Once in the 'game world' I immediately catch one of the pokemon I mentioned earlier.
7. Then I go to the RNG Reporter 7.0 and input the exact time that I hit the 'continue' main menu option when rapidly pressing the 'a' button.

I have done this about 9 times and found my results for both for delays and seconds for the initial seed and here are my results:

Seconds;Delay (Pokemon)

14;594 (Pidgey lv 50)
14;602 (Roselia lv 49)
15;604 (Roselia lv 49)
14;598 (Roselia lv 50)
14;604 (Roselia lv 50)
15;606 (Roselia lv 49)
16;604 (Roselia lv 50)
15;608 (Roselia lv 48)
15;604 (Roselia lv 49)

Now I help finding my range of Delays and my exact second that I normally hit. It appears that I have a pretty typical range of Delays but I keep changing seconds... Does anyone know why? Also, make sure to tell me if I've properly executed the calibration phase.



Thanks!
 
Your calibration method is a bit unwieldy. Just make it so that You have 5 pokemon in your party (one with Sweet Scent). Save, DON'T turn it off, and then wait for when the DS hits the next minute to soft reset. Then mash A until you enter the game world, sweet scent immediately, catch the pokemon and enter the stats into RNG reporter. Repeat several more times to get a good range of data.

From the data you collected, to see varying delays and seconds is normal, as humans aren't the best at repetitive actions. However, it looks like you hit a delay of 604 and 14 seconds the most. You should focus now more on hitting your seconds goal (14 here) then about worrying about the delay. Getting more precise results comes with practice.
 
Okay wait what the FUCK?! It gives me the exact same time, taps, flips, sequence, EVERYTHING! So apparently that wasn't the problem... FML again.

Get with me on IRC and I will help you out.

But the thing was I was in front of the daycare man after collecting the egg and for the app I was on I always keep it on the coin flip app at the iv stage of breeding.

Then I really don't know what to tell you.

(I'm talking about the calibration phase and I'm just wondering if I'm doing anything wrong..)

Hey, does it really make a difference if I catch a pokemon that's lv 049 and not > lv 050? If it does, where should I catch lv 50 and above?

Also, to find my initial seed I input the exact time that I hit the continue button right before I catch the wild pokemon, right?

Finally, when I start the game and am about to start the timer for one minute (to see when to soft reset), do I start the time when I hit the continue button, or as soon as the game world comes onto the screen (which is usually 2 seconds later due to a short black screen).

Level 49 might work, 47 too. Maybe even 46, but the idea is to minimize the risk of it not working, so the higher the level the better. 50 is a guideline. You can find level 50s easily at the route above the fight area.

YES it is the time when you hit continue and NOT the time you soft reset.

It's the instant you press A on the continue screen.

I'm not finding the initial seed by IVs, I'm finding them by stats.

Are you sure it's not the time you hit the continue button?

It is, sorry you are getting bad information.

Hi, I'm quite new to abusing the RNG and as I was reading through the first page I noticed the phrase "begin your cycle of soft resetting" numerous times. Does this simply mean to reset until you've hit your target time or does it mean something else entirely? Thanks.

Cycle means you are going to do something repeatedly.

Since you probably will not get your target time/delay/frame the first time you will have to do it multiple times. This is what is meant by cycle.

Can someone please tell me if I've successfully completed the calibration phase of PRNG?

What I've done is the following:

1. Synchronized my DS's clock to an external clock with a seconds hand showing.

Seconds;Delay (Pokemon)

14;594 (Pidgey lv 50)
14;602 (Roselia lv 49)
15;604 (Roselia lv 49)
14;598 (Roselia lv 50)
14;604 (Roselia lv 50)
15;606 (Roselia lv 49)
16;604 (Roselia lv 50)
15;608 (Roselia lv 48)
15;604 (Roselia lv 49)

Now I help finding my range of Delays and my exact second that I normally hit. It appears that I have a pretty typical range of Delays but I keep changing seconds... Does anyone know why? Also, make sure to tell me if I've properly executed the calibration phase.

Your seconds are way to inconsistent. Work on making them nearly always the same. Since your delays are very consistent I can tell that you are not doing a great job of being consistent in your synchronization of the clocks, so work on that a little bit.
 
Well, since my games were stolen and that crap, I'm using an DSTT, but my delay switches from even/not even all the time. I don't understand a crap out this anymore <_> Is there a logical explanation for this? It was 605, now I changed the year for that, and now it's 606 again. With my old game this never happend, I only had even numbers.

So, for once it stayed on even three times, got my spread but when doing Darkrai like immediately afterwards, it changed to noteven again >_>

It's US Platinum, like the first game, only now it's on a DSTT. What's wrong o.o

Oh, and my resets go faster then before if that's relevant. (From 13 - 13.5 it now is around 12.5)
 
Can someone please tell me if I've successfully completed the calibration phase of PRNG?

What I've done is the following:

1. Synchronized my DS's clock to an external clock with a seconds hand showing.
2. Saved in a little north of the Resort Area (where lv 48-50) Illumise, Roselia, etc. normally appear)
3. Waited right at the main menu of Pokemon Platinum (where it shows the continue, mystery gift [if you have it] and the other stuff) until a minute turns to another (such as 11:23:00 AM to 11:24:00) and as soon as the new minute begins (with :00 seconds) pressed the 'a' button

This is unneccessary. you do not need to hit "a" on the continue screen at exactly :00. You're confusing this with the fact that you need to soft reset at exactly :00

4. Then I waited until 1 full minute has passed (such as 11:25:00 to 11:26:00) and as soon as the new minute begins I soft resetted
5. Then I begin to rapidly press the 'a' button until I get into the 'game world'
6. Once in the 'game world' I immediately catch one of the pokemon I mentioned earlier.
7. Then I go to the RNG Reporter 7.0 and input the exact time that I hit the 'continue' main menu option when rapidly pressing the 'a' button.

I have done this about 9 times and found my results for both for delays and seconds for the initial seed and here are my results:

.....

Now I help finding my range of Delays and my exact second that I normally hit. It appears that I have a pretty typical range of Delays but I keep changing seconds... Does anyone know why? Also, make sure to tell me if I've properly executed the calibration phase.



Thanks!
Actually, you are doing a good job. However, hitting A on the continue screen at :00 and then SRing again at :00 is unneccessary. If you are not using Action Replay, a good method for you to try is to not bother synching clocks, and hard reset. This way, you can look at the exact time on your DS clock and will be able to reset at :00 every time. this is very useful and time saving. However, if you are using action replay, I reccommend using 2 DSes, as seconds often are very consistent.
 
I use an Action replay and can tell you that it makes the iv checking a whole lot easier as before I was doing it I had to level each level 50 or so pokemon that I caught for the initial seed with rare candies then go and hatch the egg with no fast egg hatch, then level that the whole way up to level 100 to do the frame calibration part:( It did get tedious after a while, so the action replay does make things a lot easier.
 
Your seconds are way to inconsistent. Work on making them nearly always the same. Since your delays are very consistent I can tell that you are not doing a great job of being consistent in your synchronization of the clocks, so work on that a little bit.

how do I "work" on the synchronization of the clocks?
 
If you get a calculated amount of journal flips that looks like this: 15.5, would you round up or down?
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this means that your frame that you want to hit is even, and you need to advance it an odd amount of frames. This means you round down to 15, however, you need to advance it 1 somehow. The easiest way is to have 1 pokemon in your party and walk 128 steps, which increases it by 1. So do 15 journal flips and 255 steps.
 
how do I "work" on the synchronization of the clocks?

Well, pay more attention to when you synchronize if you are doing it each time and make sure you are consistent. A second is a pretty long time. Or if you are synchronizing once and just resetting when your external clock rolls over make sure your external clock is accurate.
 
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