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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

mtsilverchampion said:
Hello

I am thinking that I will try for a jolly Red Gyarados in HG/SS (not breeding) but first there are 2 things I must ask:

1. Is there a flawless jolly spead (31/31/31/31/31/31)
2. If I use dragon dance,does that mean on a Jolly Gyarados with 252 evs in atk & speed that after dragon dance the attack would be equal to 524?
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You might want to search this thread for "Red Gyarados" or something, because I thought I read a post by Mingnot saying that it's nature is determined differently than Method K because it's shiny all the time. I could be confabulating that, but I think I recall reading such a post...
 
mattj said:
You might want to search this thread for "Red Gyarados" or something, because I thought I read a post by Mingnot saying that it's nature is determined differently than Method K because it's shiny all the time. I could be confabulating that, but I think I recall reading such a post...
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You are correct. I can't remember the exact method used, but I know it is some variation of the method used to generate shiny pokemon when chaining the PokeRadar.
 
mattj said:
You might want to search this thread for "Red Gyarados" or something, because I thought I read a post by Mingnot saying that it's nature is determined differently than Method K because it's shiny all the time. I could be confabulating that, but I think I recall reading such a post...
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pikachu25 said:
You are correct. I can't remember the exact method used, but I know it is some variation of the method used to generate shiny pokemon when chaining the PokeRadar.
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So how would I RNG the shiny gyarados, I have found a spread I might use:

30e025d 2809 650cf3e8 Jolly 0 31 31 31 1 31 31 Dark 59 M M M M
 
Rysta said:
Your best bet is abusing Pandora's Box for a flawless shiny spread then catching a random wild magikarp/gyarados.
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Yes, but this is about the Red Gyarados in HG/SS that is always shiny. The problem is that it has been stated that the natures/iv's are not determined in the normal manner. I already know what seed I want, the problem is how to get the correct spread.
 
Nexus said:
no the day you do this on will not change the frames you get there really is no way of controlling whether you get an alternate frame or not you just have to keep trying
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Really? I've been getting a ridiculous amount of them today. I'll keep trying then.
 
LightningFusion said:
According to people, the shiny gyarados IVs are calculated as if it was a chained shiny. The IVs will be found in method 1, but the nature will not correspond. The PID will be calculated from the first 13 frames or so before it. I suggest you look at X-Acts article on how it is calculated.
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Hello

I have an idea. The pokemon I want is on frame 2802, and 13 frames before it is the desired nature. Will what is stated in lightningfusion's post mean that hypothetically I should encounter the desired Gyarados?
 
mtsilverchampion said:
Hello

I have an idea. The pokemon I want is on frame 2802, and 13 frames before it is the desired nature. Will what is stated in lightningfusion's post mean that hypothetically I should encounter the desired Gyarados?
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Maybe. Give it a shot and if it gives you some other nature, see how far back it was and adjust from there. The only way to get it is to try. However, frame 2802 is craaaaaazy high. Isn't there anything lower? Plus Red Gyarados is a moving NPC that will advance your frame as time goes by...

Oh, plus using a syncher should help :P
 
mattj said:
Maybe. Give it a shot and if it gives you some other nature, see how far back it was and adjust from there. The only way to get it is to try. However, frame 2802 is craaaaaazy high. Isn't there anything lower? Plus Red Gyarados is a moving NPC that will advance your frame as time goes by...

Oh, plus using a syncher should help :P
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Did you ever try this method to see if it works/Did you try RNG'ing Gyarados?
 
I was wondering if anyone here has any experience in HG/SS with the IRNG enough to know if the Instant Egg AR code advances the IRNG normally (1 at a time) or if it makes it jump around? Im planning on using the IRNG to get a specific nature for a shiny MS Growlithe. If nobody knows I can always test it myself, but I was just seeing if I could save myself the trouble.
 
OK, RNG'ing the Lake of Rage Gyarados and I hit frame 2801 (the one below the frame I wanted, as a test) The nature was Jolly like the frame said it should be, but the IVs did not match ANYTHING in the list. The seed was correct because I specifically RNG'ed for it and I know I hit it because it appeared in the "View Memory" tool in desmume. So I do not know what to do. I guess I'll just faint it and use my own save as a test to see whether it Respawns after the e4.
 
mtsilverchampion said:
Did you ever try this method to see if it works/Did you try RNG'ing Gyarados?
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Oh, nah, definitely not. If I ever want a shiny Gyarados, i can whip one up with egg moves in like 15 mins in Platinum. About your next post though, stupid question, but what method were you using to generate your frames? If your IVs didn't match anything on the list, you probably didn't hit that frame.
 
I know I shouldn't be asking here,
but if I don't, I won't be able to RNG.
What IV check AR code for plat do you guys use?
Mine is messing up.
Thanks so much, and please don't give me a ban. lol
 
I am trying RNG Manipulation of wild pokemon in emerald. I have this question. I have read the guide but i dont understand why i need a synchronizer. Ok there is the 50%chance to encounter the nature you want but the spread selections in the guide show specific natures without the use of a synchronizer. For example at 6.36.31 i will get an adamant pokemon without a synchronizer. So why is it useful??
 
odisseas said:
I am trying RNG Manipulation of wild pokemon in emerald. I have this question. I have read the guide but i dont understand why i need a synchronizer. Ok there is the 50%chance to encounter the nature you want but the spread selections in the guide show specific natures without the use of a synchronizer. For example at 6.36.31 i will get an adamant pokemon without a synchronizer. So why is it useful??
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synchronizers help get you the nature and spread you want, they increase the chances of that spread nature combination you want of occurring as long as there isn't a spread with the same nature nearby, in which case a synchronizer isn't a good idea. Additionally, you may miss your frame by 0.01 of a second at times since human aren't perfect so a synchronizers help in that regard as well
 
Nexus said:
synchronizers help get you the nature and spread you want, they increase the chances of that spread nature combination you want of occurring as long as there isn't a spread with the same nature nearby, in which case a synchronizer isn't a good idea. Additionally, you may miss your frame by 0.01 of a second at times since human aren't perfect so a synchronizers help in that regard as well
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Thanks. I understand now.
 
Just try to keep a similar pattern of taping A every time. I don't see how you can have a delay range of 16 and still keep the same pace of tapping A. As Bears said, just keep up a consistent pattern while tapping, and it should shrink the range you're getting. It sounds like you are just trying to press it as fast as you can, and in doing so missing a few taps here and there, which widens your range a good bit.
 
Just keep a consistent speed. I've found that listening to a song usually helps keep the delay similar if you're keeping beat with it (aslong as it's beat doesn't jump around too much). It's helped me at least, not sure about others.
 
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