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Weird as hell, I flip 2 times, pick up egg, its Frame 6. I flip 3 times, pick up egg with a bit of delay, its Frame 11. I was aiming for Frame 9 and I have one runner. Any ideas?
 
well.... that explains quite a bit.... also.... I'm a little connfused... does the Frame automatically start at 0? (I seem to have trouble and confusion with frames... I can hit my time and delay 98% of the time)
 
Mercury said:
Does anybody have any tips for hitting a delay? I consistently hit my frame and seconds, but my delay is different every time.
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a timer with a beeping function that sounds a beep every second, emloop has one and so does pikatimer but this is only for high delays 750 or above is what i would use a timer for anything lower just keep trying and adjust your timing a bit so maybe slow down or speed up your button mashing to get your delay
 
Is it just coincidence or is this game seriously trying to fuck me? I have found a seed, delay, second, frame, all that, and found that my saved frame is 3. My desired frame is 17. So I start up my game, flip my journal 7 times, then do my coin flips. I hit my delay, hatch the egg, then it turns out its on frame 18 (I hit the A button as fast as humanly possible). Repeat this process about 15 times, no cigar.

Then I decide "Maybe I should go for an even frame." So I find the seed/frame/etc, do my journal flips, and guess what? The frame turns out to be odd now. So I let the NPC move and it goes to 21. Do the NPCs change their course depending on what date you set? Because they seem like they are doing everything right in screwing me over (been RNGing for this Treecko for 20 hours).
 
pikachu25 said:
You should just be able to double click the jar file you downloaded. If that doesn't work, try download java like Viletung said, and if it still doesn't work, PM me.
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I had to uninstall and reinstall Java for some reason because double clicking wasn't working for whatever reason but it works now thanks =)
 
blasphemy1 said:
Is it just coincidence or is this game seriously trying to fuck me? I have found a seed, delay, second, frame, all that, and found that my saved frame is 3. My desired frame is 17. So I start up my game, flip my journal 7 times, then do my coin flips. I hit my delay, hatch the egg, then it turns out its on frame 18 (I hit the A button as fast as humanly possible). Repeat this process about 15 times, no cigar.

Then I decide "Maybe I should go for an even frame." So I find the seed/frame/etc, do my journal flips, and guess what? The frame turns out to be odd now. So I let the NPC move and it goes to 21. Do the NPCs change their course depending on what date you set? Because they seem like they are doing everything right in screwing me over (been RNGing for this Treecko for 20 hours).
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It sounds like there is an NPC that is moving very early into the start of the game. What I've found that helps in abusing eggs is to watch the top left hand corner where the little box shows up saying where you are at as a refrence. It disappears once you hit A, so if you hit A when it's about half way down, then try and hit A at that point every time.

Also, you can just go and resave in hopes of a more stable frame. I've found going and battling a wild pokemon helps the starting frame change (like, more/less NPCs moving once the game starts).
 
COKTAL said:
It sounds like there is an NPC that is moving very early into the start of the game. What I've found that helps in abusing eggs is to watch the top left hand corner where the little box shows up saying where you are at as a refrence. It disappears once you hit A, so if you hit A when it's about half way down, then try and hit A at that point every time.

Also, you can just go and resave in hopes of a more stable frame. I've found going and battling a wild pokemon helps the starting frame change (like, more/less NPCs moving once the game starts).
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Oh I never thought about that. So I can just go battle a pokemon, then re-calibrate for my saved frame, and since PIDs are generated before you deposit the pokemon, I can restart the second half of the process. Wish I would have asked this 15 hours of gameplay prior, lol. Thanks.
 
No problem. And you don't have to battle, but I've found that if you just run around for a little while it doesn't always change. Battling just seems to help me more. Good luck with the rest of the abuse :)
 
Emerald RNG question.

So I found this spread: 31 / B / A / X / 31 / B

And I have these parents:
X / X / 31 / X / X / X = Parent A
X / 30 / X / X / X / 31 = Parent B

If I time right, I should always hatch 31/30/31/X/31/31 right?
 
eppie said:
Emerald RNG question.

So I found this spread: 31 / B / A / X / 31 / B

And I have these parents:
X / X / 31 / X / X / X = Parent A
X / 30 / X / X / X / 31 = Parent B

If I time right, I should always hatch 31/30/31/X/31/31 right?
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not necessarily you might get the split spread of this spread but your right about the IVs it will have if you get the timing right and this spread appears
 
I use Emerald Alternative in the RNG reporter.
In case I won't get a split spread and time perfect I get what I want right?

Thanks for answering btw ;)
 
I've soft resetted like 15 times now, using this:

Emerald Alternative
Frame: 9489
Time: 00:02:38:15
Spread: 31 / B / A / X / 31 / 31

Parent A: X / 0 / X / X / X / X
Parent B: X / 30 / X / X / X / 31

Which should give me:
31 / 30 / 0 / X / 31 / 31

Should I be more patient or would the frame I found just won't work on my game?

Edit: I've also checked my parents, A is slot 1, B is slot 2.
And I press A when Emloop is 0, while my chat with the daycare dude stands at ''Take good care of it''
 
Does your game hit alternate spreads? If it doesn't, then don't bother with them. From RNG manipulation of Bred Pokemon:

"Another less common anomaly is the game going into what is known as "Alternate Inheritance" mode. Alternate Inheritance mode causes the IVs inherited by the parents to shift backwards one frame. This means that the IVs passed from the parents on frame 943 when using the vanilla method 1 generation will be inherited on frame 942 in Alternate Inheritance mode. This completely changes what spreads are viable; better spreads may occur with shorter wait times, and different parents than usual. However, Alternate Inheritance mode is very unorthodox in its appearances; when it occurs, it will be the method of IV generation for an indefinite amount of time, liable to disappear without notice. For this reason, it is best not to aim for an Alternate Inheritance spread right away; wait until you see different IVs being inherited to take advantage of it."
 
ok I'm trying to RNG abuse capture a poke. I hit my required frames of 375 with a jolly synchronizer in front. The synchronizer is fainted by the way. then I sweet scent to get the frames up to 375 as needed. The pokemon that appears though isn't or even has the right IVs. My question is does the synchronizer being fainted have anything to do with this? and why am i getting the right frame and time but the pokemon's IVs are different. The spread should be jolly 31/31/31/0/30/31 but I keep getting Timid 27/4/13/10/10/28 instead.

Any help is appreciated
 
the seed is based on the amount of time that passes by before you hit continue and then head into the game world. Thats when your ivs are set for your egg? so confused and whats with the journal and coin flips.
 
pokemonfan said:
the seed is based on the amount of time that passes by before u hit continue and then head into the game world. Thats when your ivs are set for your egg? so confused and whats with the journal and coin flips.
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The IV's for an Egg are generated as soon as you take the Egg from the Daycare man
Journal flips are the most reliable way to advance the RNG, each page that says caught or defeated ___ pokemon will advance the RNG by 2
The Coin Flips tell you what Delay you hit, and the RNG Reporter gives you the exact 10 Flips you will need, if you didnt get the exact flips you didnt hit your Delay
 
I need help hitting my seed in HGSS. I've been very close to finally doing it, but everytime it's either off by a lot, or off by either a second or a digit in the delay.

I'm using Emloop, because I can't get consistent results with Pikatimer for some reason.

I don't have an AR, so I have to check IVs by using Rare Candies; the process is SLOW.
 
RockinX said:
I need help hitting my seed. I've been very close to finally doing it, but everytime it's either off by a lot, or off by either a second or a digit in the delay.

I'm using Emloop, because I can't get consistent results with Pikatimer for some reason.
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What's the total number of seconds in emloop (yellow box + green box)?
 
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